Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Off Topic Discussions (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/)
-   -   Statins and COVID (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1103115-statins-covid.html)

Chocaholic 09-26-2021 04:13 PM

Statins and COVID
 
I’ve been on 10mg/day Rosuvastatin (Crestor) for about 7 years. So, you can imagine my surprise while listening to an interview with a physician on NPR who said they’ve been having great success treating COVID acute and long-term patients with a Statin and a readily available AIDS drug (don’t recall the name). So, did a search and it seems this is not new.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34096808/

If you do a simple search (statins Covid), there are several publications. Most are supportive and a few are not. So... who knows?

Gogar 09-26-2021 04:34 PM

It's not in the news because it's got nothing to do with vaccination vaccination vaccination.

And crestor is off patent and no longer a cash cow.

Steve Carlton 09-26-2021 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 11468114)
It's not in the news because it's got nothing to do with vaccination vaccination vaccination.

And crestor is off patent and no longer a cash cow.

Seriously, Gogar? Did you read the link that Chocaholic posted?

Do either of you want to go unvaccinated with that as your safety net?

tabs 09-27-2021 01:09 AM

Almost all CV patients that wind up in ICU are UNVAXED. They die like flies.

ckelly78z 09-27-2021 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11468325)
Almost all CV patients that wind up in ICU are UNVAXED. They die like flies.

FIL ended up in Emergency room on Saturday from covid...yea, he's vaxxed, but they believe it may be side effects of the vaccination itself !

Aurel 09-27-2021 02:56 AM

Drink red wine, good source of statins.
One glass a day keeps the COVID away ;).

Tobra 09-27-2021 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11468193)
Seriously, Gogar? Did you read the link that Chocaholic posted?

Do either of you want to go unvaccinated with that as your safety net?

I think you missed his point

Chocaholic 09-27-2021 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11468354)
I think you missed his point

Yep.

Some simply cannot deviate from the message. Vax...period. Nothing else is worthy of discussion. Even treatments. Perhaps that’s why, after almost two years, we have none.

Seahawk 09-27-2021 04:22 AM

If this is a re-post, my apologies.

Again, get the vax if you feel the need:

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/confirmation-of-vaccine-associated

"If you cannot show me a peer-reviewed paper published in a corrupt medical journal backing your calculations of vaccine-associated mortality, I'm going to have to assume that these mafia organizations are telling the whole truth about their vaccine products without reviewing their data, and accepting the 0 in the mortality column that hasn't yet been studied." -Jeffrey Morris (paraphrasing)

To be fair, I'm not being fair. And it's not just him. It's a lot of very obtuse people who should show more responsibility from their positions. But I'm being mostly fair, and that's a lot fairer than they are.

Lots of charts and graphs, plus:

Except that it's not a consensus opinion, and the problem is that authorities who should be studying the problem seem happy to ignore it while refusing to answer emails discussing it. Also, science isn't conducted by consensus, even if The Science works that way amongst gatekeepers. All science and analyses should be published with an understanding the results are still always under discussion. Heck, it's still science and it's still debatable even when it hasn't been published or peer-reviewed. Peer review and publication are just steps intended to raise the status of results through experts who are supposed to understand what they're reading, and which has been thoroughly gamed over the years to the point that even the editor of the The Lancet complains that his journal industry is captured by pharmaceutical interests (in a "It's all corrupt, but no not me" kind of way).

It is all BS, of course, all written by hacks and slackers: MY folks are the scentists so debate is to be ignored.

oldE 09-27-2021 04:55 AM

The whole "we need something other than vaccines" position seems to me like a group of people trapped on the roof of a tall building. They are trying to conjure up a rope ladder or a helicopter to get them to safety while ignoring the stairs.

Best
Les

black73 09-27-2021 05:02 AM

Lost souls trapped in Hell

"and they never even know they have the key"

Seahawk 09-27-2021 05:05 AM

Interesting perspective, Gents.

The Trump Vaccine is very powerful.

Chocaholic 09-27-2021 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11468407)
The whole "we need something other than vaccines" position seems to me like a group of people trapped on the roof of a tall building. They are trying to conjure up a rope ladder or a helicopter to get them to safety while ignoring the stairs.

Best
Les

This may be the single most myopic post on the planet. Does this individual truly believe that no treatment is needed? That the vax is the sum total of our battle with the virus?

I’m continually amazed.

GH85Carrera 09-27-2021 05:47 AM

There was an article in the paper the other day warning people not to consume Iodine internally. Lots of people keep coming up with the goofiest ways to beat the virus. Not one is a peer reviewed valid study, just "my wife's hair dressers, best friend's, mother says it is a cure" type of rumor.

As a card carrying skeptic and life long believer in science I have gone with the vaccines. Vaccines are why most of us are alive now and not dead or never exist due to small pox, polio, cholera, rabies, mumps, or a dozen other deadly viruses. I have had my third dose of the vaccine now.

Stick to whatever some quack says works if you want. Drink some horse medicine, I really don't care what other adults try. No doubt, a tall glass of iodide will make the kung flu a non issue for you.

Steve Carlton 09-27-2021 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11468354)
I think you missed his point

Okay, I'll play. What is the point of Chocoholic's link?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11468365)
Yep.

Some simply cannot deviate from the message. Vax...period. Nothing else is worthy of discussion. Even treatments. Perhaps that’s why, after almost two years, we have none.

Please read your own link and tell me how useful it says statins are and at what point during an infection they come in.

How many times have I mentioned monoclonal antibodies? Do you think they're a treatment or not?

Did you notice I said Ivermectin is worthy of being checked out? "Vax...period" is not me.

Do you see no value in prevention? Or is it all about treatment, treatment, treatment for you?

Seahawk 09-27-2021 06:10 AM

What is interesting is that once I started on the "trial" path based on science and medical recommendations, I decided to read as much as I could with an open mind.

The link I posted above is a prime example.

If you disagree, fine, but there is emerging evidence that may not fit the current narrative.

That is how science works.

Get the shot. I still may. Trial ends in two months. I'll have better insight then because, that is how science works.

Rtrorkt 09-27-2021 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11468457)
There was an article in the paper the other day warning people not to consume Iodine internally. Lots of people keep coming up with the goofiest ways to beat the virus. Not one is a peer reviewed valid study, just "my wife's hair dressers, best friend's, mother says it is a cure" type of rumor.

As a card carrying skeptic and life long believer in science I have gone with the vaccines. Vaccines are why most of us are alive now and not dead or never exist due to small pox, polio, cholera, rabies, mumps, or a dozen other deadly viruses. I have had my third dose of the vaccine now.

Stick to whatever some quack says works if you want. Drink some horse medicine, I really don't care what other adults try. No doubt, a tall glass of iodide will make the kung flu a non issue for you.

^^ +1 This.

stomachmonkey 09-27-2021 08:53 AM

Personally I'll take any vaccine over Statins any day.

BTDTGTS, never again.

Chocaholic 09-27-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11468479)
Okay, I'll play. What is the point of Chocoholic's link?

Please read your own link and tell me how useful it says statins are and at what point during an infection they come in.

How many times have I mentioned monoclonal antibodies? Do you think they're a treatment or not?

Did you notice I said Ivermectin is worthy of being checked out? "Vax...period" is not me.

Do you see no value in prevention? Or is it all about treatment, treatment, treatment for you?

Each question answered:

Wow...such a reaction! I posted the link to see what the forum thought of this possible treatment. That’s it.

What you brought up about monoclonals is nice, but not sure how it applies to my question about statins.

Your Ivermectin and vax-period comment is confusing...I was not even replying to you.

Lastly, of course I see value in prevention. Not even sure why you asked.


Your completely out of context reaction is a sad commentary on what this virus has done to people. Mentally! Lighten up Francis. :rolleyes:

Steve Carlton 09-27-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11468671)
Each question answered:

Wow...such a reaction! I posted the link to see what the forum thought of this possible treatment. That’s it.

What you brought up about monoclonals is nice, but not sure how it applies to my question about statins.

Your Ivermectin and vax-period comment is confusing...I was not even replying to you.

Lastly, of course I see value in prevention. Not even sure why you asked.


Your completely out of context reaction is a sad commentary on what this virus has done to people. Mentally! Lighten up Francis. :rolleyes:

I was responding to Gogar's post, then asked both of you if you thought statins was an adequate safety net. From the link you posted, it sounded like it might have some positive effect on an individual already in the hospital.

It's best you don't reply to my comments. Things usually go downhill. Try reading my comment again. I said Ivermectin is worthy of being researched. That is counter to this comment, from YOU:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11468365)
Some simply cannot deviate from the message. Vax...period. Nothing else is worthy of discussion. Even treatments. Perhaps that’s why, after almost two years, we have none.

I'm glad you see the value in prevention. Are you vaccinated? Just curious.

How is my reaction "completely out of context"? Just curious.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:32 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.