It was the "turn off your ad blocker off" that turned me off.

I don’t see any of that when I open the link. Nada, absolutely nothing.

Sounds like the problem is on your end.

Maybe you should look into fixing that.

LOLOLOL. Now we're arguing what a 'paywall' is. Onward and upward!

When you spout 'craziness', be it 10% or 90%, you undermine your credibility. That point is the subtext of the USA right now, and the source of deep divisions that can't easily repaired.

I posted that article because I think it’s a fairly accurate representation of what the virus does in the way of causing disease in the body. I think a lot of people are unclear on what takes place and politics doesn’t enter into that. I never endorsed every point the guy makes, we can agree to disagree on some things. I will say that he’s right about more things than he’s wrong. There’s no question how much money we dumped into that lab, nor is there any question about what Peter Daszak was up to. Those things are a matter of public record. We know the Chinese covered this up and that Fauci and his cohorts and the WHO were complicit in making that happen. There is considerable evidence that this was an intentional release and the data points linking to that go back much earlier than the official narrative, all the way back to the summer of 2019. Mike Pompeo is on record discussing that timeline and unfortunately it remains classified at this point.

The points that the author made about the research into the brain aren’t germane to the rest of the post. I have a little doubt that you could find research on those very topics being conducted today, but that wasn’t why I posted the article.

I find it notable that the only real doctor posting in this thread thought the article was worth a read, the “Holiday Inn doctor” was the one who dissed it. To his credit, at least he read the damn thing.

It’s the liberal nitwits here that have made a federal case out of this thing. I’d wager most of them didn’t even read the damn article.

Crazy has been demonstrated to garner attention...a fuel for crazies.

If you're going to visit sites like that, I suggest launching a private browsing window. Once you're done, close the window and all cookies are gone.

Do you have any CREDIBLE links to Fauci being complicit in a cover up or that Covid was released intentionally?


Who's the real doctor in this tread? What kind of doctor?

What, you’ve been living in a cave for the last two years?
You somehow missed Fauci lying about the funding that went to the Wuhan Institute?
You missed the revelations of his emails that were discovered in a FOIA request, that showed him conspiring with other prominent scientists to promote the natural origin of the virus theory, while privately they were discussing that it came from a lab?

It’s been all over the media, everybody’s covered it.

As for the intentional release,, I would suggest you check with the whistleblower that came forward but you’re a little late. The Chinese communist party has made sure that they will never be seen again. You might consider the defector that they haven’t managed to kill yet, or watch the recent documentary done by the Australian journalist who interviews Trump, Pompeo and others on that very subject. I’ll warn you now, you have to read between the lines a little bit, because the answer to the question is classified and neither one of them will exactly blurt it out. Take special note of Pompeo’s comments about data points pointing to the summer of 2019.

I’m sure you know who I’m talking about. Does it matter what specialty he practices? Last I checked, they all got the same basic training in medical school.

So, you have no quality evidence. Noted.

I did see this with that idiot Rand Paul. Feel free to enlighten me with something solid.

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So your doctor is Tobra, the podiatrist. Check.

Podiatrists and epidemiologists basically learn the same stuff in med school right? I mean my podiatrist kicks butt. He’s a master at giving me cortisone shots but I’m not so sure he’s a master of epidemiology. No offense Dr. Brown.

I gave you lots of things to bolster my claims. I can’t believe that you’re so uninformed that you don’t know anything about what I listed, it’s been widely covered in the media, but it’s also not my job to act as your ****ing secretary. If you’ll send me your PayPal account ID, I’ll send you an invoice for however much research you want to buy. Give me money, I’ll give you links.

As for Tobra, he went to a medical school and took the same classes as anybody that practices as a physician. Specialization comes after medical school. An epidemiologist is not necessarily a doctor, they don’t have to have a medical degree and many, if not most, don’t. None of that really matters, because the medical description of the disease process in that article wasn’t anything to do with epidemiology, it was “how your body works 101.”

That’s the problem with you, you don’t know enough to even know what’s going on.

What things have you given me to bolster your claims about Fauci being complicit in a cover up or that Covid was released intentionally? Saying it's all over the place isn't going to hold water with me. Especially from you, who believes anything any crackpot says. Sorry. Sell your snake oil to someone else.

Are They Doctors?
Podiatrists are doctors, but they don't go to traditional medical school. They have their own schools and professional associations. They also have "DPM" (doctor of podiatric medicine) after their names instead of "MD" (medical doctor).

Podiatrists can do surgery, reset broken bones, prescribe drugs, and order lab tests or X-rays. They often work closely with other specialists when a problem affects your feet or lower legs. In the U.S., podiatrists are licensed and regulated by state governments.

https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/podiatrist-facts

I'm afraid it's you, javadog, that is a horrifically ill-informed spreader of misinformation. As far as you're concerned, I don't care what you think. I'll call you up on your sh.t whenever you post it, which is often. You don't need to respond, of course.

I know what a podiatrist is, I had them working for me when I was in the hospital business. An epidemiologists is more of a statistician. Did you have to go to WebMD to figure this out?

Podiatrist and other physicians treat individual patients. Epidemiologists look at entire communities of people and look for disease patterns and ways to prevent the community-wide spread of disease. Most have degrees in the public health field.

The point was I’d take Tobras opinion over that article before I would take one from a non-physician, like you.

As for the rest, everything I talked about has been the subject of new stories in the mainstream media. The fact that all of that has seemingly escaped you it’s surprising, but stupid is as stupid does.

Don't make me laugh. I doubt any of your links come from mainstream media. And guess what- saying stuff like "it's all over the place" doesn't make it a fact. Looks like you've got nothing credible to back up what you're saying. I don't think it's there. Please prove me wrong...

I'm saying I seen no proof of Fauci being complicit in any cover up (I've seen him accused by Rand Paul) or that Covid was released intentionally, other than another whack-job conspiracy theory.

You and your DPM expert are two of the most whacked out posters here with regards to disinformation.

Send me your PayPal ID and I’ll get started on it.

SuCKonTHIS

What? I don’t see anything.

Just peruse The Gateway Pundit, you’ll get all of java’s “research” for free….

It’d be easier to just a get a mainline from whatever Russian troll farm is pushing that **** out to begin with.

Something from Russia designed to undermine our democracy sounds nice!

Wonder how many PMs (from JD and a mod) Steve has received by now.

FWIW I did indeed read the entire "article" before posting. This will be my last post in this thread.

https://townsquare.media/site/642/fi...jpg?w=980&q=75

That's not the sort of attention he wanted. LOL!

And all of those things are true. Also spent a couple years working for a big 8 accounting firm and a couple years drilling oil wells.

Some people do a lot in their careers, some people don’t do jack ****. I was busier than most.

Major league BS-er or delusional, you decide. :-)

Really? Well, you guys can go **** yourselves. Every word of that is true and I’ve got the CV to prove it.

True, that is where most of it originates for sure….

It's going well, J-Dog.

I’ve seen your cv… impressive!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1633003420.jpg

Zerohedge started as a financial and market blog. I used to read it. That’s my profession. Eventually it turned into a bunch of crazy clickbait. It doesn’t have any credibility in the finance or markets side. Not sure why it has any on the virology side. There are a lot of places to get published about Covid. Someone who had to go to Zerohedge . . . well, you figure it out.

OP, you may be impressed by the article because it describes how the virus works. Frankly, people who seriously follow it have known all that stuff for a long time now. A smart high schooler could go do a day of reading and then write that summary.

No one said they were not true. Why so defensive?

So how old are you? About 150?

Well, apparently you can’t read. Find the nearest adult and have them read this thread from a few posts back. See if you can spot the insinuations. If needed, have the adult explain that word to you.




Zerohedge had nothing to do with writing the ****ing article. They just published it. If you paid attention, they were just reprinting it, it was previously published elsewhere. Working backwards, that wasn’t the original site either. If you want to find the original pdf., you can find it here:

https://mega.nz/file/HZNmyRKB#xF15FrsAEZkwBPi4tdUP5toBBqeRHDJJAHzZt6Hg_ Qg

Take note of the 550 reference citations to back up what the author is saying. This isn’t something that he simply pulled out of his ass, this is the product of a considerable amount of research.

I posted it because I thought it was interesting and I figured that most of you *******s would probably learn something if you read it. To state that someone with a high school education could read for a day and write that is just bull****. Most high school graduates can’t even balance a ****ing checkbook.

If you can’t be bothered to read it, then don’t. Nobody’s putting a gun to your head. If you want to debate the merits of what it says, feel free. That wasn’t my intent when I posted a link to it but go ahead. Intelligent debate of the merits of the topic is always preferable to the ignorant, childish insults that are the stock in trade of you stupid mother****ers.

The typical behaviors expressed by the liberals in this thread are what is ruining this country.

Resist the urge to feed the troll.

mega.nz?

Once again, you find a website to support your claims that makes me want to take a hot shower just from the name.

Might as well start linking us to stories from www.werereallytrustworthyyoucantrustusignorethesma lldemonsittingonmyshoulderimforreal.com

^ Great link! Explains a lot.

You really are challenged by the Internet aren’t you? You should ask one of your kids to help you navigate it.

As it turns out, mega is a cloud storage site. The link I provided allows you to download that one file from that one cloud storage site. There are no ads, there’s no editorializing, it’s not even behind a pay wall. It’s virus free, it’s a ****ing PDF file, for god’s sake.

God forbid you should figure out all of the above and be brave enough to go look at what it actually is. I would just paste it here but that would take me all morning, with the antiquated software that this bulletin board provides. For easier for all of us concerned for you just a click on the ****ing thing. Maybe if you did, you could report back to all of the liberal assmonkeys in this thread that it’s safe for them too.

It might be progress if some of you actually looked at the document before pulling your usual insults out of your asses and slinging them in my direction.

Here’s a review of mega, in case you need to ask permission from your wife to risk the family computer by accessing the Internet.

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/mega

I sincerely hope this is comforting to you.

Let's see... anonymous author(s), no record of ICENI or the Institute for Coronavirus Emergence Nonprofit Intelligence. Looks like a manifesto for conspiracy theorists. Look at the beginning. Does this seem sane and unbiased to you? To me, it looks crazy:

ICENI
Institute for Coronavirus Emergence Nonprofit Intelligence
The Spartacus Letter – Rev. 2 (2021-09-28) | Spartacus
Hello,
My name is Spartacus, and I’ve had enough.
We have been forced to watch America and the Free World spin into inexorable decline due to a biowarfare attack. We, along with countless others, have been victimized and gaslit by propaganda and psychological warfare operations being conducted by an unelected, unaccountable Elite against the American people and our allies.
Our mental and physical health have suffered immensely over the course of the past year and a half. We have felt the sting of isolation, lockdown, masking, quarantines, and other completely nonsensical acts of healthcare theater that have done absolutely nothing to protect the health or wellbeing of the public from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
Now, we are watching the medical establishment inject literal poison into millions of our fellow Americans without so much as a fight.
We have been told that we will be fired and denied our livelihoods if we refuse to vaccinate. This was the last straw.
We have spent thousands of hours analyzing leaked footage from Wuhan, scientific papers from primary sources, as well as the paper trails left by the medical establishment.
What we have discovered would shock anyone to their core.
First, we will summarize our findings, and then, we will explain them in detail. References will be placed at the end.
Summary
• COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.
• Current treatment protocols (e.g. invasive ventilation) are actively harmful to patients, accelerating oxidative stress and causing severe VILI (ventilator-induced lung injuries). The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder.
• Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne virus and constitute a form of medical theater.
• Various non-vaccine interventions have been suppressed by both the media and the medical establishment in favor of vaccines and expensive patented drugs.
• The authorities have denied the usefulness of natural immunity against COVID-19, even though natural immunity confers protection against all of the virus’s proteins, and not just one.
• Vaccines will do more harm than good. The antigen that these vaccines are based on, SARS-CoV-2 Spike, is a toxic protein. SARS-CoV-2 may have ADE, or antibody-dependent enhancement; current antibodies may not neutralize future strains, but instead help them infect immune cells. Also, vaccinating during a pandemic with a leaky vaccine removes the evolutionary pressure for a virus to become less lethal.
• There is a vast and appalling criminal conspiracy that directly links both Anthony Fauci and Moderna to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
• COVID-19 vaccine researchers are directly linked to scientists involved in brain-computer interface (“neural lace”) tech, one of whom was indicted for taking grant money from China.
• Independent researchers have discovered mysterious nanoparticles inside the vaccines that are not supposed to be present.
• The entire pandemic is being used as an excuse for a vast political and economic transformation of Western society that will enrich the already rich and turn the rest of us into serfs and untouchables.
________________________________________

Surprisingly, I don't see much on google regarding the credibility or legitimacy of this Spartacus Letter. I do see this, and it seems a lot more believable to me:

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/anonymous-spartacus-covid-letter-riddled-with-misinformation-baseless-claims-about-global-conspiracy/?article_id=758009