No it wont

Doesnt everybody believe?

The point of posting this... You really need to teach people how to think.
Long ago they taught Latin in high school for this very reason.

And 100% of the conspiracy theorist people I know didn't finish high school. (3 so far)

How does Latin help you think?

Studying Latin trains your brain learn. It was standard in the school curriculum for a long time in the UK and The Commonwealth.
It's no longer standard but it's still an elective subject in Australian high schools.

https://hbu.edu/news-and-events/2018/09/15/you-should-take-latin-pragmatic-reasons-for-studying-a-dead-language/

"Latin will train your brain the same way that running and weightlifting will train your body. Latin is like a bench-press for your brain. It builds mental muscle and intellectual stamina that enables you to train your brain to learn other things."

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Anyway... If people were taught how to think and reason they wouldn't be so quick to believe every hair brained theory on the internet.

I recently had a conversation with a "truther" (who had not finished high school).
We soon got to a point that no matter what I said to him he would reply: "Sky scrapers don't fall like that".
I then asked him: "how often have we seen sky scrapers fall?" He had no answer.

The primary point about Latin is it stays the same.
Things have to be said using a fixed set of rules.
To convey meaning within these fixed rules in written text requires more effort.
When writing an observation in Latin it requires breaking it down into Latin components.

There is also a timelessness that comes with writing in a dead language.
If upon one's tombstone it were to read.
"Here lies a man that was a sick guitarist."
That might mean several different things in English, and without knowing the man, the meaning would be lost.

Latin is also the gateway language of science, which attempts to build upon logic and reason. Learn latin, and the language of science makes more sense. Biology terminology -Zoology, etc. is a great example. Same for medical terminology.

Think I've posted this before.

It's a great read.

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

My conspiracy theory is that all Conspiracy theories are false. They are devised to keep us from finding out the truth! Yeah, a group of people are doing it to keep us in the dark. That's why I don't subscribe or believe in conspiracy theories.

Let that sink in! :rolleyes:

Oh and Outer Space Aliens have never and will never visit earth. It is not scientifically possible. Speed of light, matter to energy at that point and the vast distance. Just not going to happen. BUT, I believe there are many planets with intelligent life out there.

So how do we explain the "Ancient Alien" theory. Simple. What if there was an advanced and highly technical species, living hundreds of thousands or even millions of years ago on Earth. Maybe Human kind was as advanced as us and something catastrophic happened, putting us back to the stone age. Basically taking man to brink of extinction, but not quite.

Maybe?

Tin foil hat away! :D

It was the apes, man. There’s documentary movies about those apes.

Agreed. I saw those documentaries as well!

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One of the guys I worked with years ago, I suspect wore a tin foil hat at home. He honestly believed the most insane theories.

This was before the internet, so most of it came from the late night radio shows.

My favorite is the the lizard people (extraterrestrials) that can shape shift and hide as humans, and they love to eat babies as a favorite snack. They have been elected to political office and run the judiciary, most of the supreme court are actually lizard people. They own most of the banks and control 90% of the wealth on the planet. He had spent real cash money of buying "papers" written by some of the voices on the radio that detailed it all.

+1. Just read it. Very good.

Damn long read. Well worth it.

Interesting opinion piece, but no facts to back up any of the claims.

People should certainly learn Latin if they want to. But if they don't, they're still able to think critically, build brain muscle, etc.

Learning Latin would not have helped your truther.

I took 3 years of Latin in high school. I don't think it helped brain power any more than studying any other language. It was good for ancient history though. And somewhat fun playing with a dead language where certain modern words didn't exist.

We used to try to come up with the most modern expression that could be clearly written in Latin yet convey a modern meaning. A phrase like, "Let's go down to that rock house and get some crack" can still be expressed in Latin.

Spending high school days coming up with that kind of crap didn't really merit a seat at the Algonquin Round Table.

Close? Google translate.

"Eamus ad domum illam petram et aliquam rimam."

Some of the content in the foregoing possibly calls for the resurrection of another member’s post:

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Cheers
JB

"Descendamus" for more of a "go down to..." vibe. ;)

For me, Google translate was a classmate named Roy.

So you are saying that a lot of the people that post on this Board are ignorant gits..

Yawn...

You late for your afternoon nap?

Doesn't studying just about anything work like a bench-press for your brain? Math, music, any language.

Yes.

True but finishing high school would have.

Mayflies live for, what, 48 hours? Humans (and a few other animals) live for, what, about 16,500 times that long?

So, what if the extreme, bell curve defining, long lived alien lives for...16,500 times as long as us? That's 1.4, maybe 1.5 million years.

Wanna travel to a star 5000 light years away? Would be the equivalent of 1/300th of our life...or 4 months. Wagon trains traveled longer than that to explore. The Lewis and Clark of the long lived aliens would discover 5, maybe 6 planets...

No I'm not saying that at all.

Ha.
The last few decades have had lots of moments where discoveries have "complicated things".
Some still hold onto ideas from the late 1800's despite the complications.

Unfortunately "science" has been corrupted in some subjects.
In cults the answers are pre-defined and questions are not allowed.
In uncorrupted science upon each answer more questions are raised.
The uncorrupted scientific method is a tool to find and improve questions.



The point Peter might have been making is Latin equips one to read and write in a language used to categorize in research.
As such it is a tool that allows one direct access when reading raw research from which to form their own worldview.
Without knowing latin, one must remember "Tyrannosaurus Rex" as a seperate meaningless word attached to a particular finding.
If one knows Latin the name Tyrannosaurus Rex conveys meaning of itself.

All hail the king of the tyrant lizards! Long live the king!

You said that more eloquently than I was able.
Funny story- after reading this thread yesterday, I had a patient who is a biology undergrad major nearby. I jokingly asker her "Does latin help you think?" (in regards to her major).

She shrugged her shoulders, said "no" and we laughed. Pausing, she added, "I never took Latin, but now you mention it, perhaps it would" She then went on to state that her biggest challenge was learning the names to the animals. There was no context. For me, it was never an issue. I remember some areas you could actually deduce the answer just by connecting the latin dots, especially in human anatomy, and I was never that great of latin student btw

edit- and all this talk about latin, is (for me) more that latin is a gateway into the sciences. It's really the science education to which I'm thankful for giving the tools to begin to decipher not only information, but how to evaluate limited/imperfect information in real time. What to sweat vs. what not to sweat. And I ain't perfect. I recently interviewed for a post doctorate position, and while discussing the research requirements associated with the degree, the dean joked "We don't expect you discover some new cure for cancer or something, more, that the students gain an appreciation for just how hard good research is." As someone said earlier, the more you learn, the more you realize you don't know. I'm guilty as hell! :)

I learned a bit of Latin in elementary school. It was very helpful in many of my future classes/endeavors. It gave me insight into areas that other students and most teachers did not have. Any advnatage...is an advantage.

I'd say this distills my view of education. You may come out knowing a bit more about a subject or two, but you should also come out humbled by knowing you know almpst nothing and have much to learn. A lifetime is not enough.

^^^^Amen!!^^^^

It sounds like you are not experienced in these things.

Our entire world as we know it today would have been considered Scientifically impossible 10,000 years ago.

Even if you had a time machine and travelled back how would you prove something like a nuclear power plant was possible?

It's not scientifically possible with our present knowledge of science. We can't assume we know everything we need to know to yet.


There would be evidence.

Ancient civilizations would not have left the clues we have without either first hand knowledge or historical evidence to draw from.

If we all die, future civilizations will look at re-runs of the Jetsons and say "See , they weren't stupid after all."

This is the most interesting article I've read on the possibility of space aliens:

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

Perhaps because I don't know Latin at a language level it's easier to point out the struggles of not having learned it.
Helpful though was that many latin roots, prefixes, and suffixes, were fixed within my noggin when of single digit age.
Personally I was feeling my lack of Latin in the article Javadog linked about CV19.
Had it fresh in the mind.

Some critters in paleontology were named based on conjectures made with limited fragments.
When a greater number of fragments were later discovered the critters were found to be nothing like their names.
If one ever encounters the skeleton of a mid sized rat and find its latin name means whale sized sea lion...well, that is probably how that happened.

That is great.

Up next: https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/

How would you like to have spent 40 years in a discipline where you know your tools are lacking:

"Webb will be the largest, most powerful and complex space telescope ever built and launched into space. It will fundamentally alter our understanding of the universe."

Gee, thanks. One thing we do know for sure, Earth girls are easy.

Congratulations RWebb!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif