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Emotional Support Animals
We have a unit for rent in our triplex in Reno that we stated “ No Pets”. We are getting applicants that have what they call “emotional support animals”. One person threatened to sue us after being rejected. After some Googling I’m seeing that we really don’t have many options. Even a strict no pet policy doesn’t apply. The only requirement for a person is to have a signed document certifying that the pet is for their mental health. Does not even have to be a Doctor. There are places that will give them the necessary document for a fee. Doesn’t seem right.
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10-14-2021, 06:59 AM
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I have the same issue. Tenant signed a 'no pets' lease, and I see a cat there.
Lawyer says I have no options now, I can't force them to get rid of a pet.  I figure at the end of five years I'm replacing carpet and repainting anyhow.
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10-14-2021, 07:08 AM
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I have "no pets" too, but allow them. That said ... if someone tried that approach with me....
"Then sue me..." Bet they don't 
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10-14-2021, 07:09 AM
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What is the difficulty of having a no animal policy vs a no pet policy?
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10-14-2021, 07:13 AM
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By the way... I only do month-to-month leases from the git-go. If they don't like "my rules" .... git.
Raise the rent to 5x what it is now.... but some get a "no pet" discount ....Lots of ways to skin a dawg 
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10-14-2021, 07:14 AM
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All pets are emotional support animals. That whole thing is a crock.
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It's a problem.
My brother owned his condo and was going through a pretty dark period in his life. He got a couple of kittens and for the next few years they were his primary motivation to get out of bed. Taking care of them gave him purpose. One of the old HOA hags reported him for pets (even though pets were common in the community) and they tried to make him get rid of them. His shrink and Doctor both wrote "prescriptions" for support animals that were sent with a letter from our family attorney and he got to keep them. So for some people it's legit, it's the ones who game the system that ruin it for those who really need it.
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10-14-2021, 07:26 AM
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This particular u nit had been rented to a gal that unbeknownst to us had a cat. That frikin thing peed everywhere. The smell almost knocked me over. Took me 4monthes to rehab the place and I can still get a faint odor of cat pee. We just can’t have another animal in that place and risk it marking it’s territory.
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10-14-2021, 07:35 AM
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Always say “emotional support animals are welcomed!”
Then reject their application for other reasons. |
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Emotional Support Animal Python - no kidding
My wife got an application stating that the sicko had a python for an ESP I'm not kidding. We have had terrible luck with tenants and dogs, especially with an unfenced yard 4 plex. I had a newtenant badly bitten by a next door tenants pit bull and we spent a few thousand in attorney's fees to pressure the city to NOT allow the dog to "come home"
Crap everywhere, barking, peeing all over the carpet, chewing up the trim - bull ****e. We have taken the aproach listed above charging a huge deposit. If you want to back up your reasoning for this, get written estimates for re-flooring the entire apartment and throw in a cost for having the apartment vacant to do the work and a further bag of money to replace chewed up stuff and painting - look, Thi$ is what it could cost to fix!!!!!!!!!! Further, you can stipulate, in the rental agreement, that if the dog or snake barks, bothers other tenants, or if you find crap in the yard that the lease is done, they are out. |
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Some states are starting to crack down on this stuff. It is BS. I get for some folks it is legit but I own a 6 unit building the number of folks who claimed their Tarantula or some crap was the ESA was getting out of hand.
I now have a property manager but what I did prior to that was charge a high non refundable pet deposit which screened out most of the low life. Funny story, an existing tenant brought a dog into her unit. I protested. It was an ESA for her daughter she said. What daughter? Oh, my daughter had to move in. Then had a baby. Then the baby daddy moved in. The dog was aggressive but I couldn't do much at that point. The dog ended up biting her 1 year old granddaughter. I got rid of her at the end of her lease. I'm sure her life is super fun now.
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Also, don’t ever take unsolicited or non-pre-vetted applications.
Your ads should have a way for them to inquire to you without giving your contact information directly (easy to do on Zillow, hotpads, trulia, etc). You sort through those and only make contact with those that look promising. Because these days, even making contact with a potential renter gives them rights. And accepting an application from them gives them all sorts of rights. Depending on where your property is, could be huge rights. So, I would *never* send an application to anyone that hasn’t already been vetted. Your situation is a good example. I never would be in your situation, because I would have never sent an application to them in the first place, and they would have no way to send an application. |
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10-14-2021, 08:13 AM
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Do not lock yourself into long term leases ... no upside imo. The "good ones" go month-to-month anyways after 1 year (typical lease), and stay for years. The others .... I WILL get you out of my house .... you're just not gonna be able to afford to legally stay or I will get my $ati$faction .... and you won't
.I am a great LL btw.... a win/win for both sides. |
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Like rent control (which only leads to higher rents for the vast majority of tenants), all of these “tenant rights” laws do nothing but make things worse for people looking for apartments.
They protect and benefit the 10% of bad tenants and applicants at the expense of the 90% that are good. It’s because legislators have no idea of how the business works in real life. |
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