ROFLMAO! It's probably better for your BP too.

LOL! You guys are killing me. Good stuff!

I'm not sure the wife would approve of me putting this on the Outback.

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this is another favorite of mine.
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Lots of my friends have had or still have a pickup. I have driven a few over the years, but I have not driven a modern pickup yet.

Many years ago I needed to go pick up a large crate at the freight office. A 4x6x5 crate and my only car was my 914. I borrowed a buddies dualie F250 dual cab, long bed, work truck that had a full pipe rack on top. I felt like I was driving a aircraft carrier. I was really happy to be back in my 914 after that.

From what I understand is the modern pickups actually ride OK, and they sure have all the options. But they can cost 60 grand and more. One of my friends is a professional welder. He has a business and needs a real truck. He has a F350, long bed, crew cab and he drives a lot delivering the custom trailers he manufactures for another company. He spent a breathtaking sum on it.

Glenn and his Elky, FTW!

I enjoy driving my Tundra as much as I did when I bought it new 5 years ago. Driving it can be tiring compared to zipping around in my 996.
Hate the wife's Outback maybe because I traded my BMW 335 for it. lol
Hated the Ford Ranger I had before the Tundra even more!

The one thing that should be required on every truck is a sliding rear window or one that rolls down. What good is a crew cab with a 6.5' bed and no sliding window? And why the hell does Ford put out so many crew cab short bed trucks?

I bought my truck a few years back (a '14 Tacoma) and although I like the commanding driving position and reasonable size I don't like the height of the bed when loading and unloading my motorcycles. I've actually thought about picking up a 60s El Camino or installing a winch as its a hard trying to push a 450lb bike up a pair of ramps. That said, once you get a truck I think you'd miss it if you sold it and didn't buy a substitute product like a trailer.

That was the big option I was looking for when i bought my F150. I can slide 12 foot 2x6's into the cab and never throw a red flag on the back. I was surprised how many of the trucks didn't have that option with the 5.5' bed.

Needs to be power too. Or is that a Toyota thing?

I assume not much has changed. Back in the day, you could get a sliding rear window from a retail auto parts store for $100, and my understanding was that the installation was supposed to be really simple. I'm sure the prices have changed as that was 25-30 years ago.

My guess is that pretty much any truck can be had with that if you check that box which probably adds a lot more to the bottom line than the cost of an aftermarket window.

I love the eat a dick sticker Steve, that hilarious.

I DD'd my 2012 F350 diesel for years unless I was on the motorcycle or in my Porsche. The math did not make sense to buy another commuter type car for me, and I have a need for the truck (camper that I tow frequently). Back around March I got a SUV that actually gets worse gas mileage that my truck, but I love it and so now I try and drive the truck a few times a week so it doesn't just sit in my driveway. It has about 110K miles and is just getting broken in, which is good because I'd go broke trying to replace it with a new one.

Now I

Line of sight and safety. My daughter was driving a Mazda 3 for the last two years. When we moved back to Texas my wife kept saying she wanted the girl out of the Mazda lest she get squashed like a bug. We had the Land Rover Discovery 2 in the garage getting it ready for her and before I could get it ready she got crushed by a Toyota Tundra. But for the grace of God she would have been seriously hurt. Now she is known at college as the 'Land Rover girl'.

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One of my buddies just bought the 2021 Platinum version of my F350 Superduty.
Paid 100G for it ! :eek:
Truck is beautiful. Rides like a limo.

I couldn't imagine not having a pickup. I've pretty much always had one since I started driving Only a few years without one.

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I have a 2001 GMC extended cab 4x4 diesel dually , I consider it a real truck . Manual windows and mirrors , simple cloth interior with a mechanical shifted transfer case vs electronic . Unless I put 2,000 lbs of something in the bed she rides stiff . I love driving it 😁

The physical size can be an issue , with an 8' bed it turns like the Queen Mary. I never go through drive thru's it's not worth trying . But when you need a truck you need a truck . Sure it's not a Porsche but that's why I have the Porsche 😊 . They can co-exist .

Damn! Did the thing come with his and hers closets, a soaker tub and a chef's kitchen?

Same here.

Love driving both my duallys. Yeah the size is a PITA fitting places sometimes but, that's part of the deal. Sure, both are the upper end, more comfy models, but they are still real trucks. Hell, On long trips my wife would rather ride in the trucks , instead of the Mercedes. (altough she prefers the Ram over the Superduty. the Ford is too loud with the 5'exhaust...)


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Our 2000 Durango is like that. Rack and pinion and a midsize SUV with a V8 and good brakes. Oddly, if it is wet it is a really good drift vehicle for impressing (or terrifying) your passengers.

O.K. you got me. I get a big **** eating grin every time I drive my dually . I am keeping that one forever. That also , used to be primarily , our road tripping/vacation truck . Super comfy, haul anything you want in total safety all the while returning 17-19 mpg.
I think I will most likely end up dumping the other trucks .
I thought the dually would be super useful, but, its size got to be a burden driving in and out of the city to the rentals. Some of the streets are really tight, so I would have to park 50 yards down the road, then wheel my tools to the house . I got a shorter hd truck for city duties , and ended up daily driving that one for the last 6 years .
I have loved all the duallies that I have owned .

Hate to admit it but i'm currently pricing a new F250 with the 7.3. The new Tundra doesn't appeal to me so it's either find a leftover '21 or buy the only truck i can find that doesn't have 'auto start/stop' or turbos. AND it's a port injected motor so none of that DI hassle. AND no cylinder shutoff!

The absolute best trailer for hauling motorcycles, as well as most other things, is a 2WD truck that is low. Older Asian trucks like Mazdas or Toyotas are the best but domestic trucks can be ok as long as they are stock and low. Piece of cake to load a MC by yourself.

Not only that but you can watch the speedometer rise while the fuel gauge drops simultaneously!! It’s fun.

Seriously, might as well buy a used yacht. More fun and similar cost to own.

Don't the new SD Fords have a 10 speed tans in them? I have a friend with a gas one he doesn't get terrible mileage in it for what it is.

The newer diesels don't get anywhere near the mileage that that older ones did with all the crap on them. The ULSD doesnt help either.

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When we bought the Dual Sport for my wife the guy showed up in a lowered 1970 C10. The bed was about knee high. I am not sure he needed the plank to get it out.

Over the decades I have had 6 pick up trucks. Two Ranger long bed 4x4s and the others were full size regular cab 2wd with 8' boxes. I liked them all for their utility and worked a couple of them hard. It was interesting how they got more refined as manufacturers added more sound deadening and features. I have done 600+ mile days in a couple of them and enjoyed the drives.
However there came a time when I didn't need something like that in my driveway. It has been 3 years since I sold the last truck. We added a trailer hitch to the wife's Golf Sportwagon and borrow the BIL'S 10' trailer when needed. I very seldom miss the $100 fill ups. :)
If I need to haul something larger, I'll rent.

Best
Les

My Fit has a trailer hitch on it.....what more would I need.?

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I recently sold my Ram 2500 diesel and have been driving around a MK4 Jetta I picked up planning to fix and flip. It’s so nice to be able to pull into any space in any parking lot with having to think about it or stage a multi point turn to get out. Growing up in a rural area, you could go anywhere in a big pickup and not think about it, but even here in Phoenix it felt massive at times. I still want another pickup, but it won’t be a huge one. I’m really looking at the new Ford Ranger, or maybe even a maverick. Something with a bed, but that drives small and fits in my own driveway.

A few years ago I had a incident with a cup of coffee while driving my black '09 Ranger to work. A few broken ribs and stuff. Replaced it with a Black '18 Tacoma. A few weeks ago some one PIT maneuvered me on an off ramp. Rolled over once. Nobody was hurt this time but the wife said no more black trucks. Now I'm driving a white 328D Wagon. Just couldn't see putting out that kind of money a new truck when I'm about to retire.

My wife got a Chevy 1/2 ton new about 25vyears ago and she could not get insurance with the sliding window

Honda Accord great car my neighbor has been buying a new Accord every 3 years for the last 30 years.
10 Accords over 30 years.
To me that is like automobile celibacy.

I did tow recently from Salt Lake to St George Utah, 4 hours at 80 mph on a slight climbing grade.
Ram crew cab dually diesel with an enclosed trailer, 800lbs of torque and 30 gallons of fuel.
That was fun.

A trash can dolly if it has enough power?
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My old work truck, '93 WT1500......loved that sliding window!
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It's replacement, '02 Silv. 1500 w/no sliding back window....had to improvise!

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Either way......nothing like having your buddy with you in your truck! :p

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I have always seen pickups as a work vehicle much like a hammer. The right truck or hammer for the project. If all you need is a carpenter hammer don't buy a 5 pound sledge hammer for the job, and even more important don't try to use a carpenter hammer as a sledge.

I have never owned a boat or cargo trailer or real pickup. I am not in that type of business and I don't have those hobbies that need one.

I was at the lake at the invite of some friends. We went to launch their boat and had to wait as someone was trying to get a large heavy house boat out of the water on a wet ramp. Two different small pickups tried and just spun tires trying to get the HP needed to tow. Finally one of the guys waiting to get out of the water went over with his humongous F450 and hooked up, and just idled along with the torque of a diesel and pulled it out with ease. It was just amazing, and he had the right tool for the job. I bet that thing sucks to go get groceries with, but for pulling a heavy load it was not even trying.

And it seems crazy. If the Accord is that good a vehicle, it should last a lot longer than 3 years. But I know it's not uncommon for folks to constantly trade their car in.

People underestimate the hauling ability and capacity of a good utility trailer.

I can load 16' boards on my trailer, or 12' boards in my Volvo, easier than a truck with a 6', or even an 8' bed.

My trusty single axle landscape trailer has paid it's dues over the years, indeed.

Two Bismarcks and a Screw Pine.........

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Trailers are for pansies.

It's nice being able to impulse buy when I'm driving my truck.

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I have carried some whacky loads in my old '88 targa.
Exactly. That's why I don't understand the "trade it every 3 years thing." But I know that there are a fair amount of folks that like to do that.

I would be a lot happier with our Outback if the rear window opened. It's got a power rear hatch, which is a huge pain if you want to carry something that doesn't allow the hatch to fully close.