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stevej37 11-11-2021 03:10 AM

SpinLaunch
 
I had never heard of this before now.
I wonder if it could be used for launching a human? (it doesn't seem possible)

https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/09/spinlaunch-completes-first-prototype-flight-using-kinetic-launch-system/

masraum 11-11-2021 03:45 AM

I suspect that might be a bit much stress for humans.

stevej37 11-11-2021 04:40 AM

It would surely make satellite launches less expensive.

GH85Carrera 11-11-2021 04:50 AM

Some of the first Science Fiction stories had man going to the moon, launched from a canon.

If the energy needed to slingshot or "spin" it into orbit is less than using a rocket, lots of thinks can be put in orbit. It will still take a lot of energy to get it spinning fast enough to be orbital.

stevej37 11-11-2021 04:57 AM

Ahh! This explains it better. I wasn't picturing that type of launch.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JAczd3mt3X0" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pwd72s 11-11-2021 11:40 AM

The video helped..thanks.

Eric Hahl 11-11-2021 11:53 AM

Sure doesn't seem feasible. Could this possibly be scaled up enough to launch a craft like the James Webb telescope, a Volkswagen sized rover?

Alan A 11-11-2021 11:56 AM

For people? Yeah. No.
Here's a few numbers...

https://www.wired.com/story/hurling-satellites-into-space/

javadog 11-11-2021 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11515911)
I suspect that might be a bit much stress for humans.

Yeah, roughly 1000 times what the human body can tolerate.

You would turn to mush before you ever got launched.

masraum 11-11-2021 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl (Post 11516453)
Sure doesn't seem feasible. Could this possibly be scaled up enough to launch a craft like the James Webb telescope, a Volkswagen sized rover?

Just imagine the mess when there's an issue with the release and the projectile does not go out the exit.

island911 11-11-2021 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11515911)
I suspect that might be a bit much stress for humans.

:D a bit.

stevej37 11-11-2021 12:30 PM

^^^ Yeah, if the timing on the release was wrong....could cost big bucks at that speed.

The spinner even has a tractor rain-cap on it.:)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YB6Nw4MKE2g" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

FPB111 11-11-2021 01:02 PM

Didn’t David use one of those things on Goliath?

stevej37 11-11-2021 01:06 PM

^^^ He was years ahead of his time!
He's the ceo of SpinLaunch now.

stevej37 11-11-2021 01:24 PM

One more vid from youtube.....Almost like a science fiction movie!
And to think they could do a few each day would be amazing.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TGO4LtCctTk" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

flipper35 11-12-2021 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11516498)
:D a bit.

He didn't specify alive.

Question, so this uses a counter weight so it doesn't get out of balance. What happens when it let the cargo loose? Counterbalance go away too, or does it stop real quick?

stomachmonkey 11-12-2021 09:00 AM

Every time I look at that thing all I can think of is this.

https://people.com/travel/worlds-most-dangerous-waterparks-grisly-secrets-revealed-in-new-documentary/

And yes, if you've seen the documentary and were not fortunate enough to be a teen in the area during its heyday every bit of it is true.

It's amazing more people didn't die but we loved it.

https://static.onecms.io/wp-content/...ark-2-2000.jpg

stevej37 11-12-2021 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 11517319)
Question, so this uses a counter weight so it doesn't get out of balance. What happens when it let the cargo loose? Counterbalance go away too, or does it stop real quick?


This vid addresses that question...(at about the 8 min. mark)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JAczd3mt3X0" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

red 928 11-12-2021 10:23 PM

it was in the Cool Science Story Of The Day [Continuing Thread]

hcoles 11-13-2021 05:52 AM

I like Spinlaunch. All sorts of interesting issues to overcome but seems feasible.

javadog 11-13-2021 08:56 AM

I can’t see this thing ever being able to launch anything with a significant payload. Not only are humans delicate but a lot of the crap that we launch into space is pretty delicate, too. I just don’t think the numbers will work.

Not only that, but we have 60+ years of success doing it the old-fashioned way, why change?

masraum 11-13-2021 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11518143)
I can’t see this thing ever being able to launch anything with a significant payload. Not only are humans delicate but a lot of the crap that we launch into space is pretty delicate, too. I just don’t think the numbers will work.

Not only that, but we have 60+ years of success doing it the old-fashioned way, why change?

I hear "because we've always done it that way." is always the best reason to eschew change.

stomachmonkey 11-13-2021 02:02 PM

Test post

Is the forum broken?

Shows me as the only person on, member or guest and my new posts are not showing up.

stevej37 11-14-2021 06:48 AM

^^^
That one did.

flatbutt 11-15-2021 03:47 AM

https://youtu.be/bdcE3VyKv5U?t=81

masraum 11-15-2021 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11518225)
Test post

Is the forum broken?

Shows me as the only person on, member or guest and my new posts are not showing up.

Yes, the forum is broken again.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1106690-forum-broken-again.html#post11518472

All new posts in existing threads should work. New threads also work, but since the main page does not update, no one can see them. There are at least a couple of threads like the one that I linked above that have been posted. If you create a new thread and save the link, then you can continue to see the thread, and if you post it to some other thread, then other folks can see and respond.

flipper35 11-15-2021 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11517890)
This vid addresses that question...(at about the 8 min. mark)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JAczd3mt3X0" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I saw where they mention the issue, but not how they solved it. Maybe I am dense.

stevej37 11-15-2021 10:08 AM

^^^ You got it....they talked about still needing to work on it.


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