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upsscott 11-18-2021 12:59 PM

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I have the 80v Grenworks. It rips pretty good but it may be a bit heavy for your father.

red 928 11-18-2021 01:18 PM

are the electric saws quieter?
I don't want to to sleep too late on a saturday morning

herr_oberst 11-18-2021 01:44 PM

I'm glad to see that the chainsaw thread is giving the vacuum cleaner thread a run for it's money.

stevej37 11-18-2021 01:49 PM

^^^LOL...Looking for a present for the wifey?

herr_oberst 11-18-2021 01:53 PM

Yeah. Price of handguns is through the roof this year, gonna see what other needs can be met and put under the tree simultaneously.

rfuerst911sc 11-18-2021 01:54 PM

I would consider electric over battery . At least with electric the power is consistent until you cut the cord 😁. Just as light as battery but obviously you have the cord . Unless your dad is venturing deep into the woods the cord should not be an issue. I don't care how good battery tech is they eventually lose power/die and have to be purchased for stupid $$$ .

stevej37 11-18-2021 01:55 PM

I hope you realize I was just joking. :)

cabmandone 11-18-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11522541)
I have the 80v Grenworks. It rips pretty good but it may be a bit heavy for your father.

He's still a pretty tough old codger. What does that thing weigh with the battery?

herr_oberst 11-18-2021 02:54 PM

Me too. I was really looking at bathmats and a washing machine.

(Edit. JK. t'ain't married, no presents from old men this year, just having fun...)

cabmandone 11-18-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11522604)
I would consider electric over battery . At least with electric the power is consistent until you cut the cord ��. Just as light as battery but obviously you have the cord . Unless your dad is venturing deep into the woods the cord should not be an issue. I don't care how good battery tech is they eventually lose power/die and have to be purchased for stupid $$$ .

I gave some thought to a corded model but then he has to drag a cord around and his generator. He has a pretty big property so power isn't available unless he pulls his generator behind his golf cart or 4 wheelers.

dad911 11-18-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 11522124)
It depends on how you use them, I have 2 Ryobi 40v saws

one is a pole saw and the other a regular 18" bar saw

For the small incidental stuff that a typical small piece of property calls for they are great,

plus since I have a bum shoulder no pull start to worry about, no premix to fuss w/ and store either

Although I own gas stuff, my 40v Ryobi chainsaw and leaf blower are my first choice. Unless I'm downing a big tree, the battery gets it done.

upsscott 11-19-2021 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11522638)
He's still a pretty tough old codger. What does that thing weigh with the battery?


Not sure on the exact weight. My only complaint would be that it’s not balanced like my Stihl 026. What’s nice however is that I can get up at the crack of dawn and run the battery powered saw and not tick off the neighbors.

upsscott 11-19-2021 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11522638)
He's still a pretty tough old codger. What does that thing weigh with the battery?


Looked at the manual, 14.2lbs. Feels like more lol.

cabmandone 11-19-2021 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11523054)
Not sure on the exact weight. My only complaint would be that it’s not balanced like my Stihl 026. What’s nice however is that I can get up at the crack of dawn and run the battery powered saw and not tick off the neighbors.

Good to know about the balance. I've researched several of these saws now and balance does seem to be an issue with a few. I'm hoping I can find a store that has some of the models we've discussed and do some comparison shopping.

I think right now based on cost and all the videos I've watched that I'm going to zero in on the Dewalt because of the battery versatility and Echo for the price and how capable it is. I talked to my dad and he's okay with me going to a different brand so that really broadens the field for me.

Thanks for your input!

cabmandone 11-19-2021 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11523058)
Looked at the manual, 14.2lbs. Feels like more lol.

Wow! That is a horse! I looked at the Dewalt specs and it appears to be a little over 12 lbs. I'll have to go out and weigh my Husqvarna gas powered saw to see what it weighs. Should be a good benchmark.

KFC911 11-19-2021 02:48 AM

I will absolutely buy a battery powered chainsaw... when my Stihls (and Echo) croak :D. I absolutely love my newest one .... lightweight, and packs a punch, a pro saw (Germany), with M-tronic (no carb issues, no warm up, etc). But modern gas sucks... even non-Ethanol... glad I have it available in 93 too. I need my saws to work when power goes out or electricity isn't nearby. My baby saw is a beast compared to one I had that looks just like it .... gave that one to my uncle. All of those battery vs Stihl comparisons are up against the low end Stihls imo... but ya gotta pay for the pro stuff.

The Stihl I gave away was $300 or so, verses the $750 one I replaced it with.

Ya pay to play :D

edit: Stihl Ms 201 TC-M .... though I don't climb, it's a pro tree climber saw with a 14" bar (could handle 16)... I watched a pro use one similar to do most of the cutting on a big red oak .... probably 2' in diameter up top.... his big heavy saws just sat and watched :D....

I was sold ;)

cabmandone 11-19-2021 09:08 AM

Just to update: I ordered a Dewalt on Amazon (best price and none available locally) $339. It should arrive by next Wednesday. My plan is to charge the battery and go see how it cuts. I'll clean it up once I've gotten a chance to make sure it's something dad will like and then box it back up.

I'll let y'all know what I think of it. And again, thanks for all the great input! I was telling my brother that this is the kind of stuff that makes OT great. There aren't many subjects you can post about that someone here isn't going to have some sort of experience with.

Seahawk 11-19-2021 09:33 AM

One last thing (nice choice, btw:cool:)):

Sharp chains are, as we all know, as important as the chainsaw. With a gas powered saw I tend to cut when perhaps it is time to replace the chain - I have at least a dozen ready to go but the Wood Boss makes us all a hero.

With the battery powered saws, a sharp, maintained chain is essential. I have three for the little DW. The torque on the battery units is impressive but they will be more impacted, of course, with duller chains.

Sharpening chains is Zen to me...I have a nice little set up in the corner.

TMI!

911 Rod 11-19-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11523505)
One last thing (nice choice, btw:cool:)):

Sharp chains are, as we all know, as important as the chainsaw. With a gas powered saw I tend to cut when perhaps it is time to replace the chain - I have at least a dozen ready to go but the Wood Boss makes us all a hero.

With the battery powered saws, a sharp, maintained chain is essential. I have three for the little DW. The torque on the battery units is impressive but they will be more impacted, of course, with duller chains.

Sharpening chains is Zen to me...I have a nice little set up in the corner.

TMI!

I think the smaller the saw, the more abuse the chain takes because you are cleaning up with it and prone to hitting dirt.

cabmandone 11-19-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11523505)
One last thing (nice choice, btw:cool:)):

Sharp chains are, as we all know, as important as the chainsaw. With a gas powered saw I tend to cut when perhaps it is time to replace the chain - I have at least a dozen ready to go but the Wood Boss makes us all a hero.

With the battery powered saws, a sharp, maintained chain is essential. I have three for the little DW. The torque on the battery units is impressive but they will be more impacted, of course, with duller chains.

Sharpening chains is Zen to me...I have a nice little set up in the corner.

TMI!

My brother and I were discussing that exact thing. We both think with a battery powered saw it will be very important that the chain remains sharp. The good news is, my dad has a really nice electric sharpener so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm thinking I'm going to include a few chains just to make sure he has them at his disposal.

Seahawk 11-19-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11523676)
The good news is, my dad has a really nice electric sharpener so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm thinking I'm going to include a few chains just to make sure he has them at his disposal.

The electric sharpeners are great...I figured you guys were way ahead of the program. The tooth angles on the battery powered saws tend to be less aggressive, at least the one that came with the DW.

I bought two Oregon chains with a more aggressive "teeth".

I look forward to your consumer report!

KFC911 11-19-2021 12:57 PM

I had a long post ready to send earlier and my dawg hit something .... she helps me type .... lost it :D.

Vash (Cliff) Notes version: Have a few chains, hit 'em every tank (battery) and keep 'em sharp. An Oregon bench chain sharpener is the best $200 I've ever wasted if ya do get one "untrue".

Oregon makes good chains .... get the full chisel ones.

Stihl green stickered chains suck and are for novices and their lawyers.... use the yellow ones.

A short bar has significantly less teeth than a long bar .... so they do wear quicker because of that.

I have designated stump/dirt chains too for dirty work.

Happy sawing :)!

My dawg is pawing at the back door ..... SEND :D

upsscott 11-19-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11523505)
One last thing (nice choice, btw:cool:)):

Sharp chains are, as we all know, as important as the chainsaw. With a gas powered saw I tend to cut when perhaps it is time to replace the chain - I have at least a dozen ready to go but the Wood Boss makes us all a hero.

With the battery powered saws, a sharp, maintained chain is essential. I have three for the little DW. The torque on the battery units is impressive but they will be more impacted, of course, with duller chains.

Sharpening chains is Zen to me...I have a nice little set up in the corner.

TMI!

^^^^This for sure.

Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

KFC911 11-19-2021 01:49 PM

One thing I like about the Stihl yellow coded chains... they have a line etched on the teeth for the proper angle. Nice when yer hitting them a couple of light strokes with a round file every tank/battery. Stilh makes great chains.... and those green ones :(.

If yer sharpening dull chains you're doing it all wrong.... keep a fine edge on them... always... doesn't take much effort either.

cabmandone 03-26-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11523462)
Just to update: I ordered a Dewalt on Amazon (best price and none available locally) $339. It should arrive by next Wednesday. My plan is to charge the battery and go see how it cuts. I'll clean it up once I've gotten a chance to make sure it's something dad will like and then box it back up.

I'll let y'all know what I think of it. And again, thanks for all the great input! I was telling my brother that this is the kind of stuff that makes OT great. There aren't many subjects you can post about that someone here isn't going to have some sort of experience with.

Steve's thread about saws remined me that I promised to let y'all know what I think of the Dewalt. Holy smokes that thing will rip it up! Dad called me a few weeks ago asking if I'd like to come over and use the new saw with him. In the car I went!

Dad had an Ash tree that the wind had taken down. It wasn't a large tree, probably 14" at the trunk and about 30 or so fee long. We went to work on it and had it cut up into 16" pieces pretty fast. And the best part? We didn't even come off of 3 bars on the battery after we were done cutting. Something that was nice was there was no shutting off the saw, then restarting and cutting, then shutting off again. I'd highly recommend the saw and just did to Steve.

masraum 04-18-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11647683)
Steve's thread about saws remined me that I promised to let y'all know what I think of the Dewalt. Holy smokes that thing will rip it up! Dad called me a few weeks ago asking if I'd like to come over and use the new saw with him. In the car I went!

Dad had an Ash tree that the wind had taken down. It wasn't a large tree, probably 14" at the trunk and about 30 or so fee long. We went to work on it and had it cut up into 16" pieces pretty fast. And the best part? We didn't even come off of 3 bars on the battery after we were done cutting. Something that was nice was there was no shutting off the saw, then restarting and cutting, then shutting off again. I'd highly recommend the saw and just did to Steve.

That's impressive for sure.

cabmandone 04-18-2022 03:42 PM

My dad used it a week ago. He called me just to tell me he used and and that he was really impressed with it. I'm gonna give it a workout in a few weeks when I take it up to my hunting property to do some cleanup.

drcoastline 04-18-2022 04:23 PM

I struggle with battery anything over gas.

But for light duty stealth I do like these.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650327748.jpg

Bill Douglas 04-18-2022 07:06 PM

That would be great for an arborist up a tree. leaves one hand free to hang onto the tree. Quiet (quieter).

cabmandone 04-19-2022 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11669502)
I struggle with battery anything over gas.

I was the same way... and then I used this dewalt saw. I'm not saying it's for people who do a lot of cutting, but I think with two batteries, a person could get a lot of work done with one of these saws. It's truly an impressive saw. I was afraid, when looking for a saw, I'd be disappointed or that my dad would be disappointed with it but that certainly isn't the case.

masraum 04-19-2022 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11669502)
I struggle with battery anything over gas.

But for light duty stealth I do like these.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650327748.jpg

That's pretty cool. It's so small, I wonder about it's effectiveness. I would probably use my Milwaukee hackzall with a longer wood blade.
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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11669615)
That would be great for an arborist up a tree. leaves one hand free to hang onto the tree. Quiet (quieter).

I've got a Ryobi 12" 18V that looks like a regular chainsaw (but small). Most of the noise comes from the chain on the gears and bar.
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11669704)
I was the same way... and then I used this dewalt saw. I'm not saying it's for people who do a lot of cutting, but I think with two batteries, a person could get a lot of work done with one of these saws. It's truly an impressive saw. I was afraid, when looking for a saw, I'd be disappointed or that my dad would be disappointed with it but that certainly isn't the case.

I really wanted to get one of the battery powered, but to get a spare battery or two and the saw and charger (which would have been different from all of the other battery/electronic equipment that I have) would have been quite a bit more expensive than a gas, and would have been an unknown as far as run time, battery obsolescence, etc....

cabmandone 04-19-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11669792)
That's pretty cool. It's so small, I wonder about it's effectiveness. I would probably use my Milwaukee hackzall with a longer wood blade.

I've got a Ryobi 12" 18V that looks like a regular chainsaw (but small). Most of the noise comes from the chain on the gears and bar.


I really wanted to get one of the battery powered, but to get a spare battery or two and the saw and charger (which would have been different from all of the other battery/electronic equipment that I have) would have been quite a bit more expensive than a gas, and would have been an unknown as far as run time, battery obsolescence, etc....

I thought about that. It depends on how much gas you use over the life of the saw vs how many batteries you go through and cost to charge them over the course of the saw. The one we bought my dad cost $364 and came with one battery and a charger. I didn't think that was much more than a comparable gas saw depending on brand.

Seahawk 04-19-2022 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11669792)
I really wanted to get one of the battery powered, but to get a spare battery or two and the saw and charger (which would have been different from all of the other battery/electronic equipment that I have) would have been quite a bit more expensive than a gas, and would have been an unknown as far as run time, battery obsolescence, etc....

I think you made the right choice. If it came down to either/or, the Stihl that you bought would be my pick.

I started getting serious about battery powered tools about five years ago and have gained trust in their specific capabilities and, in some situations, advantages over gas powered stuff.

If I sell this place, the battery powered stuff is headed to South Carolina since I'll be on one acre...except the gas powered pole saw, or maybe the sprayer, etc.:D


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