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pmax 11-26-2021 08:43 PM

You only really need 640KB for all your computer needs.

GH85Carrera 11-27-2021 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11530186)
You only really need 640KB for all your computer needs.

My first PC was a 4.77 MHz 8088 CPU, had just 256K, twin floppies, and DOS 2.0. I immediately had to upgrade it to the max 640K, and added a 10 MB hard drive, and 1,200 Baud modem. Green text, black background. No colors and no sound but a beep.

red-beard 11-27-2021 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11530321)
My first PC was a 4.77 MHz 8088 CPU, had just 256K, twin floppies, and DOS 2.0. I immediately had to upgrade it to the max 640K, and added a 10 MB hard drive, and 1,200 Baud modem. Green text, black background. No colors and no sound but a beep.

My first DOS-PC was a Toshiba 1200HD Laptop, came with 1MB RAM and a 20MB hard-drive, also 4.77 80C86. I had the original with the non-backlit LCD screen. I upgraded it with a 1200 Baud Modem Card that also included another MB of RAM. The RAM beyond 640 was useless under DOS. But I used for RAM disks which made the unit pretty snappy. The CMOS battery allowed the RAM to stay active when shutdown (BRAM).

id10t 11-27-2021 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 11529918)
Win7 is 32bit and Win10 is 64bit.
You'll probably lose a lot of programs which are now incompatible because emulation or backwards-compatibility or whatever it's called was not built into 10.

I believe Win7 was limited to utilizing only 4GB of RAM at a time despite the hardware so that is one major improvement with larger tasks.

The first thing I did with Win10 was go into "Apps" settings and turn off everything that was running in the background. Permissions not granted.
(they are all on by default)
Jigsaw/Xbox still starts on its own occasionally and can't be uninstalled. Same with EdgeUpdate and a few others.

This laptop computer only has 4GB of RAM and occasionally slows down, possibly due to background virus scanning and a ton of saved Waterfox bookmarks, but most of the time it runs pretty smoothly.

Depends on the hardware and which vendor you bought it from - 64bit support started with XP. And PAE also started with XP on 32bit systems, so you could use more than 4gb but any single process was limited to 4gb. Kinda like himem.sys on DOS ....

For a Win7 level machine, the best upgrade would be to Linux Mint w/ MATE desktop or some other Linux distro with a lightweight desktop (NOT Gnome3/Unity or KDE, one is ugly and unusable, the other a resource hog)

red-beard 11-27-2021 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11530338)
Depends on the hardware and which vendor you bought it from - 64bit support started with XP. And PAE also started with XP on 32bit systems, so you could use more than 4gb but any single process was limited to 4gb. Kinda like himem.sys on DOS ....

For a Win7 level machine, the best upgrade would be to Linux Mint w/ MATE desktop or some other Linux distro with a lightweight desktop (NOT Gnome3/Unity or KDE, one is ugly and unusable, the other a resource hog)

Interesting thought. I could convert my old desktop to MINT.

id10t 11-27-2021 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11530173)
I just bought a "gaming" machine which I'll use for drafting.

i9-12900K with liquid cooling
RTX-3080
64GB RAM
2 TB SSD
8 TB Harddisk

I run 2 monitors, one 32" standard and one 27" in portrait for documents.

I certainly don't need more than 64GB of RAM at this time. I think this MB can go to 128.

Normally, I'd build my own but the components were hard to find and the price of the assembled and warrantied machine was ~$100 more. Hard to pass up.

My last drafting machine lasted 7 years.

My "new" machine is my old work development machine. 4 core i7, 32gb ram, two Nvidia K620 video cards, two 24" monitors. Came with 2 512mb SSDs that had hardware RAID-0 configured for some reason (which explains why they couldn't rescue a few of the other developers stuff after crashes).

We used to be able to buy our old machines for $150 IF the local school systems didn't want them but then the local schools got picky and so we now simply write things off and either cannibalize or "write off and repurpose". So my total cost is $0. :)

Ditched the RAID-0, put my 4tb software RAID-1 drives in, installed LMDE on one SSD, set the other up as /home and I rsync a nightly backup of /home to the RAID-1 array


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