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I have been investing since I was 10 years old - my parents did the whole allowance/chores money earned very well. Standard stuff: Go to the bank, open a savings account, pass book, the whole nine. I had to save, later invest, 25% of my allowance and later earnings on the ranch. My Dad taught me how to look at stocks in the paper, FGS. Different time. I was making good money as a Little League Umpire when I was 15: $7.50 a game and I averaged 4 games a week. This was in 1971. 25% automatically, a habit, was stashed. The good news/bad news is that I was never a financial risk taker based on that upbringing. My parents were low to moderate risk takers financially and by default so am I. I have left a lot on the table but frankly I would have worried too much. Not worth it, at least in my mind. We are are, however, willing to risk on physical assets, particularly real estate. We all did very well there, continue to do so. Now, at 65, we are in excellent shape and I am very comfortable with a portfolio that reflects my age and risk tolerance. |
If you're married, the stock/bond ratio as it pertains to you age is dumb. You're not investing for your lifetime, you're investing for whoever lives the longest. That's your time horizon.
Once you're financially secure, all those predetermined plans and ratios go out the window. We're not going to see any Great Depressions anymore, so you should be investing somewhat vigorously. Patience and consistency are key. Panicking under any circumstances is the worse thing you can do. Don't. It's been proven time and time again the the stock market (not the bond market BTW) provides the greatest return on investment long term. Don't be a baby. It always bounces back. Always. |
Everyone's situation is different.
If I were 16 and starting all over today, I would invest as much as can every payday in SWVXX. This is what we've done for our grandchildren and their money has doubled in the short lives. I always recommend educate yourself and ask questions. Good place to start learning. https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php |
So question for the Pelican brain trust:
Regarding Equities: what's your breakdown? Single Stocks? ETF's? Mutual funds? Does it differ from what type of investment you have? (IRA, Roth IRA, 401K...etc).. |
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With the Fed keeping the interest rates low (artificially), the federal deficit, and the cyrpto craze, I think we are in uncharted waters. But if I knew what I was talking about, would I be here? Personally, I am not 'all in' on the market like I have been before the last 3 or 4 years. https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart |
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Me, I’m retired, a Chicken**** and dumb so I’m staying in mostly index funds for my 401k, shiny metals with a healthy pile of cash. Best thing to do first is get debt free in or just before retirement. |
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For post-tax holdings, the majority is in Vanguard Total Stock Market and Vanguard Wellesley - ~85/15 stock/bonds plus some cash. I'll second Scott Watkins, check out the forum at bogleheads.com. Their philosophy is that dealing with individual stocks is basically just gambling. |
I guess I am following a more aggressive approach as I do not have any bonds and the bare min in cash. My investments are stocks, ETF's, and 4 mutual funds as well as my 401k. I mostly focus on dividend aristocrat companies that are: Large S&P500, have paid dividends for 25+ consecutive years, and have year after year increases. I've been doing Roth conversions every year and my goal is to have my entire IRA converted to a Roth within the next 10 years without bumping me into the next tax bracket. I am lucky to be able to offset my conversion tax liability with my rental deductions and depreciation. The only debt I have is my rental property and that is being 100% covered by my tenant's rents and generates a good cash flow.
I am 60 and will work until I am 70 - I like my job and it pays well enough for me to save a substantial amount each year. I have rental property as well so I feel that if the market were to dip, even over a prolonged period, I could survive on SS and rental property income. |
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Anyone could make money in the stock market for the last 13 years, there have been no real downs other than the Covidian scare where anyone with half a brain could have made big bank. My buddy dumped 100K into the markets when they dipped in March 2020, all of it in Airlines and Cruise Lines. He tripled his money. I thought he was crazy, he saw something I did not and benefited greatly. Here is a fantastic tool when it comes to investing in the market. https://traderschoice.net/about-traders-choice/ Scroll down and look at the MMRI - right now it is saying low risk, invest and do not worry. I am in my mid 50's and have my money spread out everywhere. I cannot toss out percentages off the top of my head. I have a Money Market Accnt that I contribute a decent amount weekly to. Wife and I have both max out standard IRA's every year that are both investment accounts, I am about to contact the adviser and move them into PM only investments for the next couple of years. I think we are 6-12 months from a Market crash. I have a decent amount in Crypto all across many different crypto's. I toss it on a wall and hope something sticks. Looking for the next Bitcoin... SHIB I am looking at you. I also converted 50% of my cash into physical Silver and gold these last 6 years. As well as having enough cash on hand to live a year without banks. Want me to get started on my 1 year pantry goals? I really need to get out of this tract home and onto some land so I can get livestock and start a small family farm. *edit* I should also add, I have zero debt, no CC ,no car loans, and no mortgage. My only bills are utilities and home insurance / taxes. We just dumped close to 50K into the house on home improvements in order to make it maintenance free for the next 10 years. New impact doors, impact windows, hurricane shutters, metal roof, up to code Garage door, new Generator, new up to code Screen enclosure over pool and new Air Conditioning. The house should need nothing for the next 10 years easy. My salary is the most it has ever been in my life, my business is 100% debt free and cranking in profits, while I do not expect these good economic times to last, I am prepared for a slow down with no overhead other than payroll and utilities. My plan is to sock away enough in the next 10 years to consider partial retirement. I love what I do and cannot fathom stopping myself from doing it. |
I'm 60..
And recently decided I'm done with working I have 1.2 million in my 401K And over 800K in my ESOP I plan on paying myself a salary equal to what I get now until I'm 65... then hitting up social security and Medicaid when I'm 65 Which will reduce how much I have to dip into my retirement funds.. |
At 56 years old, I have no debt (10 acre farm, and cars paid off). I will have a 28 year pension at 62 years old, and the 401K is currently approaching 500K. The 401K is split evenly between Roth, and standard, and has been gaining an average of 20% yearly for the last 6-7 years with additionally 20% of my pay being added. I plan on building a cash fund that will cover 2-3 years of expenses in case the stock market dives, that I could use instead of selling low. I also have a Schwab investing acct that I play with high risk stuff...I made $$ on AMC, and soon will on DWAC.
My concern is paying for 3 years of health care if I go at 62 with my pre-existing conditions. |
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Single stocks,ETFs, Mutual funds? All are part of the equities portion. There is some overlap. IRA, Roth IRA, 401k ...etc? At the end of day, where ever you invest your money it's steal just one portfolio.:DSmileWavy |
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ETFs that mimic ^ mutual funds that mimic ^ The only changes is that for tax-deferred, I unclude REIT, but for everything else, I do not. |
Dividend growth investing....then you don't have to worry about most of this BS
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Mine would be in more of the Dividend Payer area I think. The dividend has stayed the same for at least 4 years now. But it still works out great. :) |
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Consistent investing for decades is the key to success. For those with neither the time, inclination or knowledge to actively manage their own money, a few low cost 5 star index funds will do the trick. Evaluate them occasionally and adjust as necessary. |
"As I said, we're not going to see any Great Depressions around here again, not to mention your time frame includes WWII, and two other wars.
Consistent investing for decades is the key to success. For those with neither the time, inclination or knowledge to actively manage their own money, a few low cost 5 star index funds will do the trick. Evaluate them occasionally and adjust as necessary." And the church said amen! |
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I smell a change in the air, however. The markets have been crazy easy since 2008, and for a good time before that bump in the road as well due to low inflation and interest rates. I'm not sure that the current rise in inflation isn't going to lead to a cycle of higher rates, which could swing some money out of the markets. The fed will try to manage this but how successful they will be remains to be seen. Nonetheless, I think that a good strategy remains to invest in broad sectors of the economy thru funds and balance there. Shoot for a decent average return rather than big hits. Yes, we all know folks that made fortunes in Apple or Google or Tesla "back then" but those are exceptions and not how I would do retirement planning. And like Paul, real estate has been pretty solid through the last 20 years and is an "investment" you can appreciate in more ways than appreciation. |
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