Get a CCW for another state?

[flatbutt]

My club has been offering to help with getting a non-resident CCW for Florida and Utah. I understand that this could be of use if we ever get 50 state recognition but that's not likely. In the case of some states recognizing the CCW wouldn't I be in violation of transport laws if I Carry from a state that didn't issue it?

[HardDrive]

You need to map it out state by state.

[PorscheGAL]

There is an app: Legal Heat. Does a great job of updating the laws of all the states and which state reciprocate.

[Joe Bob]

A good app......

As to 50 state reciprocity? when pigs fly....

[stomachmonkey]

IIRC Virginia has the highest reciprocity and a non resident CCW is a pretty easy get.

It won't get you Florida but will get you Utah.

[Joe Bob]

At one time I had non rez ccws from, AZ, OR AND WA. 43 states as I recall. I "had" one in CA but the NRA backed Sherriff cancelled all but former LEOs judges and his cronies when beat the incumbent.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

IIRC Virginia has the highest reciprocity and a non resident CCW is a pretty easy get.

It won't get you Florida but will get you Utah.

Problem for him with VA is that he is landlocked in NJ among the crazy (red on the map) states. VA works pretty well for most residents as long as you don't head north (and dodge IL when heading west..

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

.... wouldn't I be in violation of transport laws if I Carry from a state that didn't issue it?

Originally Posted by fintstone

Problem for him with VA is that he is landlocked in NJ among the crazy (red on the map) states. VA works pretty well for most residents as long as you don't head north (and dodge IL when heading west..

Well I think we need a little more clarity from OP, transport and carrying are not the same thing.

FOPA generally covers you on transport as long as you make sure to know accessibility rules in places you may be passing through.

So he could for example carry in Indiana then transport through Illinois and carry again in Montana.

[id10t]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

My club has been offering to help with getting a non-resident CCW for Florida and Utah. I understand that this could be of use if we ever get 50 state recognition but that's not likely. In the case of some states recognizing the CCW wouldn't I be in violation of transport laws if I Carry from a state that didn't issue it?

Some states honor only resident permits, some recognize all issued permits.

What is interesting is that Florida doesn't have a different CCW for resident or not - your state issued ID (drivers license, etc) makes that determination.

[cabmandone]

There aren't many times where I'll say the federal government needs to step in, but this is one of those times. A concealed carry permit should be good regardless what state you live in.

[Rick Lee]

Things change too often and a lot of states that recognize other states' CCWs only do so for residents of those states, not non-resident folks far away. I got my UT permit when NV stopped taking AZ permits because NV took UT permits, and I traveled to NV regularly. But then they stopped taking non-resident UT permits. You don't have to worry in Constitutional-carry states. But I wouldn't bother with a FL permit unless you regularly travel there or to states who take FL non-resident permits.

[Por_sha911]

So I am in TN. I can get a non-resident permit in FL? How is that possible?

[flatbutt]

WRT transport v carry. I was referring to being able to do both, but as noted I'd be crossing a border illegally. I have frequently transported a long gun across the NJ/PA border for NRA functions but never a hand gun. So, the limits of reciprocity and where I live would seem to make getting Fla and Utah permits wasted effort.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

WRT transport v carry. I was referring to being able to do both, but as noted I'd be crossing a border illegally. I have frequently transported a long gun across the NJ/PA border for NRA functions but never a hand gun. So, the limits of reciprocity and where I live would seem to make getting Fla and Utah permits wasted effort.

Reciprocity is for carry.

FOPA covers transport.

They are two different things with different rules.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

So I am in TN. I can get a non-resident permit in FL? How is that possible?

Details here (see nonresident permits section):

https://www.handgunlaw.us/states/florida.pdf

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

WRT transport v carry. I was referring to being able to do both, but as noted I'd be crossing a border illegally. I have frequently transported a long gun across the NJ/PA border for NRA functions but never a hand gun. So, the limits of reciprocity and where I live would seem to make getting Fla and Utah permits wasted effort.

If I understand your question, you are correct it would be a wasted effort as NJ does not recognize any other states CCW so you would not be permitted to carry in NJ. NJ only recognizes NJ.

[rfuerst911sc]

Time for a stupid question 😋. Governor Kemp here in Georgia announced last week he is going to introduce legislation to allow Georgia residents to open carry without a CCW . If that legislation gets passed does that have any affect on reciprocal states ?

Asked another way if I am pulled over by a police officer in a reciprocal state and asked if I have a firearm and answer yes . Then I am asked do I have a CCW and answer no . But I then say Georgia no longer requires a CCW . Then what happens ?

I assume that the non CCW requirement is just good in Georgia in this example but I don't know that for sure . Thoughts ?

[PorscheGAL]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

Time for a stupid question 😋. Governor Kemp here in Georgia announced last week he is going to introduce legislation to allow Georgia residents to open carry without a CCW . If that legislation gets passed does that have any affect on reciprocal states ?

Asked another way if I am pulled over by a police officer in a reciprocal state and asked if I have a firearm and answer yes . Then I am asked do I have a CCW and answer no . But I then say Georgia no longer requires a CCW . Then what happens ?

I assume that the non CCW requirement is just good in Georgia in this example but I don't know that for sure . Thoughts ?

I will assume he is talking about open carry in addition to CCW. Here in SC: new law only allows open carry if you have a CCW

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

Time for a stupid question ��. Governor Kemp here in Georgia announced last week he is going to introduce legislation to allow Georgia residents to open carry without a CCW . If that legislation gets passed does that have any affect on reciprocal states ?

Asked another way if I am pulled over by a police officer in a reciprocal state and asked if I have a firearm and answer yes . Then I am asked do I have a CCW and answer no . But I then say Georgia no longer requires a CCW . Then what happens ?

I assume that the non CCW requirement is just good in Georgia in this example but I don't know that for sure . Thoughts ?

I would make the same assumption the non CCW is only good in GA unless the reciprical states identify the new law. Since NJ doesn't have any sort of open carry other then LEO on duty I certainly would assume you are not good to go here.

Err on the side of caution. When in doubt lock em up.

[Rick Lee]

Before a bunch of other states got Const. carry, only VT and AK allowed CCW with no permit. So the states that accepted any other state's CCWs would accept a mere DL from AK and VT residents. AZ now has Const. carry, but out DLs don't suffice anywhere outside of AZ for CCW. You have to get a permit if you want reciprocity. I have an AZ CCW for that reason. The only benefit for me in AZ is that it also exempts me from NICS checks when buying from an FFL.