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HobieMarty 01-15-2022 05:08 AM

Cannonball Run Countach Documentary
 
https://youtu.be/8b7erU_DOfE

This is a pretty long video, going to have to set aside a little time to watch this one, looks interesting.

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rattlsnak 01-15-2022 11:56 AM

Just finished it. great story!

pwd72s 01-15-2022 09:31 PM

Nice of them to tie in Brock Yates and the real Cannonball...more interesting to me than the story about the Countach. But hey, that's just me...

sc_rufctr 01-15-2022 10:00 PM

Cool video... And while I'm at it, I don't hate the front spoiler on that Countach.

A lot worse has been done to them over the years.

https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/news/cannonball-runs-lamborghini-countach-at-the-library-of-congress

LEAKYSEALS951 01-15-2022 10:07 PM

Jack May was a riot! :) Also some good porsche content.

pwd72s 01-15-2022 10:14 PM

If I'm not mistaken the P-car guy was Dan Rowzie (sp?) Active in PCA back in the day...

pwd72s 01-15-2022 10:23 PM

Hey, let's just be happy all hostages made it out....okay?

(edit) When I posted the above, I thought I was posting on the Texas hostage thing...whoops.
But thinking about it, it fits the real Cannonball as well. So I'm leaving it.

red 928 01-15-2022 10:54 PM

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red 928 01-15-2022 11:27 PM

set the playback speed at 1.5x
saves time

javadog 01-16-2022 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11577684)
Jack May was a riot! :) Also some good porsche content.

Those two old guys were a hoot. The guy in the left was very familiar looking, I have no idea why.

I met Brock Yates one time, at a birthday party for Anatole Aratunoff. A really nice guy, I think I still have his business card from Car and Driver.

All three of the guys that owned that Countach were blithering idiots. Especially the second owner. Typical Lambo owners, unfortunately. Bob Wallace must be spinning in his grave.

masraum 01-16-2022 04:19 AM

I'm a bit over 7mins in and so far this video is great.

I'd like to be able to read some of the articles by BY that were quoted in the video.

Here's the main cannonball article that BY wrote in 1972
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a15143608/the-cannonball-baker-sea-to-shining-sea-memorial-trophy-dash-archived-feature/

David 01-16-2022 04:51 AM

I'm about halfway through it, really entertaining.

The comment that most car guys had never seen one in person when the movie came out resonates with me and probably most of us. It reminds me of the first time I saw one in person. It was 1983 and I was on a first or second date with a girl in high school. We pulled up to a light and on the cross street to our left I saw the black nose of a car in the left turn lane hidden behind the car on it's right. At first I couldn't even say the name the car but when the Lamborghini's light turned green, it turned in front of us and started pulling away, I started freaking out. The girl was really amused and commented that she thought I was so excited I was going to cum in my pants or something to that affect. Realize this is a girl I barely knew at this point. Later that night we were making out, I excused myself to go pee and then I realized I couldn't pee in my current state. She realized my situation and said, "what's wrong, did you see a Lamborghini?" :)

porsche tech 01-16-2022 04:52 AM

Very cool video…and very well done. Thanks for posting. Back in the day when they actually ran the race, 2 of the salesmen at the dealership at which I worked, ran the race in 911’s a few times. They are pictured on Car and Driver’s cover next to the red 911 on the roof of the Red Ball Garage in NYC where the race began. They had a plethora of stories. Brock Yates sent one of the guys a really neat framed poster that was a picture of the USA with their route mapped out and the cover of that magazine inset. It hung behind his desk in the show room.

Pwd72s: which “Porsche guy” were you referring to in the video as Dan Rowzie? I missed that. Dan was a local guy and a customer of ours…worked on his cars many times. I’m going to have to review the video and look for him.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1642340215.jpg

HobieMarty 01-16-2022 05:36 AM

So cool, I figured some of y'all on here would know someone who had participated in the race.
The only time I ever saw a Countach in the wild was November 1984 when I was in Nassau, Bahamas. I was walking in the market district and a low and wide red car came by me and had to stop at the traffic light. I was 19 years old and was with my parents. I remember quickly turning to them all excited and said "that's a Lamborghini Countach"!!!!! I stood there looking at it until it pulled away and I remember that it looked so wide that it took up a lane and a half on those narrow streets. The Countach is such a badazz looking car for sure.


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masraum 01-16-2022 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 11577791)
I'm about halfway through it, really entertaining.

The comment that most car guys had never seen one in person when the movie came out resonates with me and probably most of us. It reminds me of the first time I saw one in person. It was 1983 and I was on a first or second date with a girl in high school. We pulled up to a light and on the cross street to our left I saw the black nose of a car in the left turn lane hidden behind the car on it's right. At first I couldn't even say the name the car but when the Lamborghini's light turned green, it turned in front of us and started pulling away, I started freaking out. The girl was really amused and commented that she thought I was so excited I was going to cum in my pants or something to that affect. Realize this is a girl I barely knew at this point. Later that night we were making out, I excused myself to go pee and then I realized I couldn't pee in my current state. She realized my situation and said, "what's wrong, did you see a Lamborghini?" :)

LOL, great story.

My wife is used to me reacting when I see cars. The first time that I saw a Carrera GT (on 518 in Pearland in heavy traffic) or a Lotus 7 (actual Lotus, not a Caterham, at a Starbucks by Baybrook mall), or seeing a Pagani Huayra on West Gray St in River Oaks, I got excited and animated and pulled quick U-turns.

javadog 01-16-2022 05:51 AM

I submitted an entry to run in one of the races that came after Brock’s involvement. 1982 or 1983, I can’t remember which now. I was going to run it in a Porsche 911, fortunately I decided not to make the trip.

I’ve listen to a lot of Ed Bolian’s stories on the record runs, he has a bunch of them on his YouTube channel. I don’t think there’s anybody that knows more about that subject than he does. As nuts as the runs were in the early days, what these latest records have done is insane. I have maintained a fairly high average speed for an hour or two, a couple times. I cannot imagine doing it for 25 or 30 hours.

I would also suggest that you check out his personal website, edbolian.com.

porsche tech 01-16-2022 06:06 AM

After Yates decided to not have the Cannonball again, he had One Lap Around America (or something like that). It was a predetermined, timed route all the way around the country with check points where your time was recorded (trying to eliminate the 100+ MPH speeds). These two guys also participated in that race ...maybe in a BMW...can't remember.

javadog 01-16-2022 06:17 AM

The One Lap races generally made a stop in Oklahoma at the Hallett racetrack. I attended a few of those events as a spectator. I thought the long loop around the US was a bad idea. The total distance was much greater than the Cannonball races, I can’t imagine sitting in a car for that many days on end.

porsche tech 01-16-2022 07:14 AM

That was one point the guy on the left (of the 2 guys discussing their participation in the Cannon Ball) was making. He said “the beginning and the end were fun, the 2500 miles in the middle was boring”!

javadog 01-16-2022 07:22 AM

I’ve driven from the middle of the country to the north east corner of the US and from the middle of the country to LA. Both trips absolutely sucked.

masraum 01-16-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11577931)
I’ve driven from the middle of the country to the north east corner of the US and from the middle of the country to LA. Both trips absolutely sucked.

I've made the drive between Houston and the panhandle of FL a bunch of times which is 570 miles. I made it twice by myself in my old 911, that was a 6.5-7hr trip, and not horrible. Most of the time that I made it was in some sort of larger vehicle, whether an SUV or rented vehicle with the family and the dog, and that was 8-9 hours and quite a bit worse.

I've made the trip from Tampa to Houston once which is 1000 miles. I was able to stop at my parents' place which is ~ half way. I slept for 3-4 hours and finished the trip. That was horrible. I was in a boring little car packed full of my crap as I was moving.

javadog 01-16-2022 07:50 AM

When I drove to LA, I was hauling an engine in the back of a three-quarter ton super duty Ford. Fought a 50 mile an hour headwind, for the entire first day. I’ve never driven in wind like that, before or since. My usual 9 miles per gallon went to **** in a hurry. I did 1000 miles on the first day and thought I was going to die. Never again…

Zeke 01-16-2022 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11577968)
When I drove to LA, I was hauling an engine in the back of a three-quarter ton super duty Ford. Fought a 50 mile an hour headwind, for the entire first day. I’ve never driven in wind like that, before or since. My usual 9 miles per gallon went to **** in a hurry. I did 1000 miles on the first day and thought I was going to die. Never again…

I did 900 once and was hallucinating somewhere in TX after 18 hours. it was pretty late after a 5 am start. I made it into a motel and left at 6 am. The second leg to AL was easier, an unnecessary roust by the state popo in LA due to my CA plates, notwithstanding.

pwd72s 01-16-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche tech (Post 11577792)
Very cool video…and very well done. Thanks for posting. Back in the day when they actually ran the race, 2 of the salesmen at the dealership at which I worked, ran the race in 911’s a few times. They are pictured on Car and Driver’s cover next to the red 911 on the roof of the Red Ball Garage in NYC where the race began. They had a plethora of stories. Brock Yates sent one of the guys a really neat framed poster that was a picture of the USA with their route mapped out and the cover of that magazine inset. It hung behind his desk in the show room.

Pwd72s: which “Porsche guy” were you referring to in the video as Dan Rowzie? I missed that. Dan was a local guy and a customer of ours…worked on his cars many times. I’m going to have to review the video and look for him.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1642340215.jpg

Way in the back of this cover shot..see the guy in the leather jacket & T shirt? That's Dan. May or may not be Dan in the video...when we get old, we all begin to look alike.

unclebilly 01-16-2022 06:31 PM

At 10 years old, my son has lived a pretty good life. He’s driven my 930s, has his own 944, been around a couple race tracks (even in anger in my 911), been in the pits for me at Laguna Seca and Daytona and has been racing karts since he was 5… and the little bugger has sat in a Countach. I have his picture somewhere looking out of the countach. And it’s a real one.

This is a true blue car guy. When he isn’t helping my out, ski racing, karting, or riding his dirt bikes, he’s playing Forza Motorsports or Forza Horizon 5 (which he pre bought with his own money). He’s a huge top gear / grand tour fan.

We will watch this video together.

masraum 01-16-2022 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 11578726)
At 10 years old, my son has lived a pretty good life. He’s driven my 930s, has his own 944, been around a couple race tracks (even in anger in my 911), been in the pits for me at Laguna Seca and Daytona and has been racing karts since he was 5… and the little bugger has sat in a Countach. I have his picture somewhere looking out of the countach. And it’s a real one.

This is a true blue car guy. When he isn’t helping my out, ski racing, karting, or riding his dirt bikes, he’s playing Forza Motorsports or Forza Horizon 5 (which he pre bought with his own money). He’s a huge top gear / grand tour fan.

We will watch this video together.

How's he drive the 911 at 10? Can he reach everything (pedals, shifter, etc...)?

McLovin 01-16-2022 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11578742)
How's he drive the 911 at 10? Can he reach everything (pedals, shifter, etc...)?

I’m gonna guess he was sitting in the other seat.
Anyways, I’ve had so many cool cars, lots of 911s, a couple of Ferraris, my dream BMWs, etc.
There’s nothing else I’d even really want the hassle of owning anymore.
Except a Countach.
I know, they drive like a truck, assembled like a kit car, etc etc.
I don’t care about any of that.
To me, there’s the Countach, and there’s everything else.

HardDrive 01-16-2022 07:38 PM

I drove from Seattle to Columbus, OH in 40 hours in an 2005 Carrera S, and I was beat. To be sure, I was not driving with the motivation these folks had, but I was going pretty fast. Can't imagine the sustained sustained speed to get from NYC to LA that fast.

unclebilly 01-16-2022 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11578742)
How's he drive the 911 at 10? Can he reach everything (pedals, shifter, etc...)?

He’s never driven the 911 but he has driven the 930s. Yes, he can reach the pedals. He taught himself how to drive a stick on my Baja Bug when he was 9. I’ve posted the video on here before.

drcoastline 01-16-2022 08:49 PM

Great documentary, I enjoyed.

HobieMarty 01-17-2022 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11577836)
I submitted an entry to run in one of the races that came after Brock’s involvement. 1982 or 1983, I can’t remember which now. I was going to run it in a Porsche 911, fortunately I decided not to make the trip.

I’ve listen to a lot of Ed Bolian’s stories on the record runs, he has a bunch of them on his YouTube channel. I don’t think there’s anybody that knows more about that subject than he does. As nuts as the runs were in the early days, what these latest records have done is insane. I have maintained a fairly high average speed for an hour or two, a couple times. I cannot imagine doing it for 25 or 30 hours.

I would also suggest that you check out his personal website, edbolian.com.

Yep, Ed has a channel called "VinWiki" on YouTube. I've been subscribed to that channel for many years now. Lots of great stories on there.

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tdw28210 01-17-2022 04:27 AM

Cool video, but I found myself speeding through bits of it. I rolled my eyes for all the praise for the Countach as some great automotive achievement. I've putted around in one and as somebody who is 6'1" with size 12 shoes it is borderline undriveable. Backing it up is a nightmare and the pedalbox is askew. It was designed by Mario Ghandini who is about 5'6" and 150 lbs.

drcoastline 01-17-2022 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11577681)
Cool video... And while I'm at it, I don't hate the front spoiler on that Countach.

A lot worse has been done to them over the years.

https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/news/cannonball-runs-lamborghini-countach-at-the-library-of-congress

I actually like the front spoiler. This car is where the evolution ended for me, after this they became caricature-ish.

My favorite iteration of the Countach is the LP400 it was a pure design no wings, no flares. The car evolved nicely for a while with the addition of the flares and rear wing, then the front wing.

After this it was like the designers sat at their desks and said what else can we stick on the car that looks ostentatious? Big US bumpers, Tetsarosa-esque side strake rockers, strakes covering the rear fender vents. Strakes and ribs everywhere.

GH85Carrera 01-17-2022 05:45 AM

If I head from home and drive west on I-40 to Flagstaff, AZ and stay at the same hotel as before it is 911 miles from home.
If I leave from home and drive east on I-40 to Maryville, TN to the favorite hotel it is 917 miles. I have done both of those trip multiple times in one day. Both in the 911.

The year I drove to Flagstaff and the area was having an international mountain bike competition, all the hotel rooms were full. I had to keep driving another 50 miles south towards Phoenix before I found a place with a room. I always new I could go further, but I wanted to get a room before they were all sold out, and get up early in the morning and continue the trip.

Jay Leno of course owns a Countach, and a Miura. His comment is if you are out trying to attract 12 year old boys, drive the Countach, if you want to attract young women, drive the Muria.

David 01-17-2022 05:58 AM

My one other Countach story: one of my college roommates dated a super cool, smart, beautiful girl with incredibly rich parents. This is around 1990. One day the Countach came up in conversation and the girl said, oh, I drove one when I was 16. My father's friend handed me the keys and let me drive it around Dallas. She said it drove like a truck: hard to shift, heavy clutch and steering. That roommate only dated her for about a year but my other roommate has been with her for almost 30 years. What's the old saying? "You can marry more money in 5 minutes than you can make in a lifetime." :)

sc_rufctr 01-17-2022 06:16 AM

"hard to shift, heavy clutch and steering"... And the problem is? ;)

javadog 01-17-2022 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11578995)
"hard to shift, heavy clutch and steering"... And the problem is? ;)

She’s a girl. :D

And she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.

Dantilla 01-17-2022 07:55 AM

I bumped into a friend's daughter when driving a Gallardo, and she gave the best description of a Lamborghini:

"It's a rolling exclamation point!"

speeder 01-17-2022 09:17 AM

I haven't seen a Countach on the street since 3 days ago. Granted, they are not a common site anymore but there are a couple of people in town who drive them regularly. Back in the '80s, they were practically common here. I knew a guy with a white one, he was a complete tosser and the car fit him, IMO at the time.


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