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slow&rusty 02-02-2022 05:35 AM

Red Carpet Roll Out: 959 on BaT
 
Discuss!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-porsche-959-komfort/

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...?fit=940%2C627

masraum 02-02-2022 05:40 AM

I'm surprised that they are selling it with an inoperable ABS system and the vehicle height adjustment system not working.

sc_rufctr 02-02-2022 05:45 AM

Just gorgeous... I love everything about it and certainly one of the most desirable cars of all time.

sc_rufctr 02-02-2022 05:58 AM

Just in case anyone is interested... From the ad: "Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46".

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1643810236.jpg

Blaupunkt have released the Bremen SQR 46 DAB.

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GH85Carrera 02-02-2022 06:09 AM

Hey, I have that same stereo in my 911!

Of course they used a lot of instruments and switches in common with my regular old 85 911. I hope it sells for a few million. That will help raise the price of all the other 911s. ;)

jhynesrockmtn 02-02-2022 07:21 AM

Will be fun to watch. It has sat unused most of its life and I would guess would take quite a bit of work to get it ready to actually use. Seems like they've done the minimum maintenance rather than keeping systems in working order. That's probably ok for most buyers. I will never own something like this but it would drive me nuts to own a car that wasn't kept in working order.

aschen 02-02-2022 08:04 AM

already creeping towards 2mil with 12 days left, crazy times. I remember the good ol days of 5 years ago where 1 mil or so could buy most of the recent fantasy cars from my youth. Makes me almost not want to complete my plan of becoming an evil genius.

959s are a cool moment in time car, but don't do much for me. Seems not to far off a functional prototype for a plain ol pedestrian 993tt. f40 by contrast was its own unique thing and end of an era. I am sure the new 959 owner will have one of these as well though.

masraum 02-02-2022 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 11594831)
Will be fun to watch. It has sat unused most of its life and I would guess would take quite a bit of work to get it ready to actually use. Seems like they've done the minimum maintenance rather than keeping systems in working order. That's probably ok for most buyers. I will never own something like this but it would drive me nuts to own a car that wasn't kept in working order.

I find it bizarre. For a regular old ~35 year old used car, sure, a check engine light or inop system wouldn't be weird. But for a car that is that special and expensive, I'd assume that it would be kept in good working order.

I guess from one point of view, if you can afford to buy it, then you can afford to fix it, but the other side of that coin is if you own it, then you should be able to afford to get the thing fixed. It's not like its an '87 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. I would be surprised to find a McLaren F1 or Ferrari F40 with a bunch of broken stuff for sale.

masraum 02-02-2022 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 11594884)
already creeping towards 2mil with 12 days left, crazy times. I remember the good ol days of 5 years ago where 1 mil or so could buy most of the recent fantasy cars from my youth. Makes me almost not want to complete my plan of becoming an evil genius.

959s are a cool moment in time car, but don't do much for me. Seems not to far off a functional prototype for a plain ol pedestrian 993tt. f40 by contrast was its own unique thing and end of an era. I am sure the new 959 owner will have one of these as well though.

Right, if I was uber rich, I'd probably have one as a moment in time pinnacle, but they haven't really excited me since they were pretty new. At the time, their technology and performance is what excited me, but to me, they haven't aged well. When they came out, I found the 959 much more exciting than the F40. Now, I actually prefer the M F1 and F F40.

I would prefer to have a GT1 to a 959. I would , however, love to have a CGT (even more than a GT1). I think the CGT is going to age better than the 959 or GT1, but ask me again in 20 years.

LWJ 02-02-2022 09:26 AM

Easily the most drooled over car of my youth.

911 Rod 02-02-2022 09:31 AM

It would be nice to be rich.

zakthor 02-02-2022 09:44 AM

I think I'm the right age to be hypnotized by this car but literally my first thought was that an f40 is infinitely and terrifyingly cooler. This just looks complicated and as scary as a model x in plaid mode.

pwd72s 02-02-2022 09:54 AM

Ahhh, fantasy.

masraum 02-02-2022 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11594994)
It would be nice to be rich.

You hear lots of folks say "be careful what you wish for" or "it will cause more trouble in your life than it's worth." I'm game to give it a go. Yep, lots of folks that go from avg to rich over night have issues. I'm betting that I could be smarter than those folks.

JavaBrewer 02-02-2022 10:58 AM

If you search the 911 section our former host Wayne has a extensive thread about the 959 he bought years ago. It too needed a bunch of maintenance, would not even hit full boost, that he was very meticulous to complete and document.

Laugh at "would rather have a GTI"...me too. The original first gen Mk1 :)

Seahawk 02-02-2022 11:44 AM

I never "got" the 959 from an esthetic standpoint. I think the first time I saw a picture of one was in an article with Bill Gates driving one on the track and I just found it odd looking...but I think the 964 was the apex of 911 air cooled evolution.

So there's that. That and I like Targa's:cool:

Proof that there is an a$$ for every seat.

I almost have my 997 back on the road, so my opinion may change!

VINMAN 02-02-2022 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11595163)
I never "got" the 959 from an esthetic standpoint. I think the first time I saw a picture of one was in an article with Bill Gates driving one on the track and I just found it odd looking...but I think the 964 was the apex of 911 air cooled evolution.

You are not alone!

Always found it to be totally hideous looking.

Also agree on your other view. Never had much love for the 911 style after the early 90s. ( not that I'd turn a newer one down...)

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masraum 02-02-2022 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11595163)
I never "got" the 959 from an esthetic standpoint. I think the first time I saw a picture of one was in an article with Bill Gates driving one on the track and I just found it odd looking...but I think the 964 was the apex of 911 air cooled evolution.

So there's that. That and I like Targa's:cool:

Proof that there is an a$$ for every seat.

I almost have my 997 back on the road, so my opinion may change!

Interesting, so for you 964>993.

I like the 964 well enough, but I think my heart belongs to the bellows bumpers cars, then the 993, then longhoods, then 964.

I also love targas. I understand why the coupe is more desirable (rigidity and weight) vs the open top cars. My first Porsche was a targa. The outward visibility was great, and I think the car looked great. It was also nice (not that I did it often) to be able to drop the top, but still be shielded from the buffeting wind that you get in a full convertible.

I've had the hardtop on my Boxster for about a year now. I don't really have any desire to take it off. I've even considered removing the soft top, but don't think I'm going to do that.

A930Rocket 02-02-2022 01:36 PM

Owner has so much money he doesn't care if it's fixed and running right? Or bought the car, but couldn't afford to keep it up?

Either way, it's not at the top of my list of cars to buy when I hit the jackpot.

masraum 02-02-2022 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11595321)
Owner has so much money he doesn't care if it's fixed and running right? Or bought the car, but couldn't afford to keep it up?

Either way, it's not at the top of my list of cars to buy when I hit the jackpot.

Correct, if I was going to spend $2mil on a car, it wouldn't be on a 959.

stevej37 02-02-2022 01:45 PM

Wayne has some great comments in the listing...regarding his 959 experience.

speeder 02-02-2022 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11595163)
I never "got" the 959 from an esthetic standpoint. I think the first time I saw a picture of one was in an article with Bill Gates driving one on the track and I just found it odd looking...but I think the 964 was the apex of 911 air cooled evolution.

So there's that. That and I like Targa's:cool:

Proof that there is an a$$ for every seat.

I almost have my 997 back on the road, so my opinion may change!

Bill Gates could be flying the F-15 and make it look lame. So there is that.

pavulon 02-02-2022 03:09 PM

Like so much in life, 959s need to be appreciated for what they are/were instead of criticized for what they might not be.

Joe Bob 02-02-2022 04:30 PM

1300km and inoperable systems? WTF? Fix it and THEN sell it.

masraum 02-02-2022 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 11595544)
1300km and inoperable systems? WTF? Fix it and THEN sell it.

that's my thought as well. Like I said, they aren't selling an '87 Cutlass Supreme for $2k. This is a $2mil car that's nearly new. And it's not like the radio stopped working and the power passenger's seat moves forward and backward, but not up and down. This is the ABS and suspension.

Jims5543 02-02-2022 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11595163)
I never "got" the 959 from an esthetic standpoint. I think the first time I saw a picture of one was in an article with Bill Gates driving one on the track and I just found it odd looking...but I think the 964 was the apex of 911 air cooled evolution.

So there's that. That and I like Targa's:cool:

Proof that there is an a$$ for every seat.

I almost have my 997 back on the road, so my opinion may change!

+1

The tech is amazing the look? It looks like a 911 from that era was stung by a bee.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1643854033.jpg

rusnak 02-02-2022 06:40 PM

If I had an extra $1.6M and the means to import it and register it in the USA, I'd totally buy it. An analog Porsche 911 that can cruise all day at 200 mpg? Not to mention the sheer technical triumph that it still is? Heck yes, please.

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speeder 02-03-2022 08:04 AM

200 mpg?? Now I want it. :)

masraum 02-03-2022 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11595666)
If I had an extra $1.6M and the means to import it and register it in the USA, I'd totally buy it. An analog Porsche 911 that can cruise all day at 200 mpg? Not to mention the sheer technical triumph that it still is? Heck yes, please.

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959 vs Ruf Yellow Bird

I'd rather have the yellow bird.

rusnak 02-03-2022 10:30 AM

^ OK, I agree with that. The original Yellowbird vs this particular 959.

But would you choose one of the Yellowbird clones? Perhaps one based on the 964?

What if the 959 was a Sport, or let's say this one:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1643913019.jpg

masraum 02-03-2022 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11596312)
^ OK, I agree with that. The original Yellowbird vs this particular 959.

But would you choose one of the Yellowbird clones? Perhaps one based on the 964?

What if the 959 was a Sport, or let's say this one:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1643913019.jpg

I'm OK with a yellow bird clone as long as it's faithful and accurate.

Hmm, that might be tough.

I'd probably want a test drive of each before I decided.

stevej37 02-03-2022 02:36 PM

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Superman 02-03-2022 03:00 PM

Notwithstanding complaints of inadequate routine maintenance, that has to be the finest surviving example of one of the most important automobiles of all time.

rusnak 02-03-2022 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11596719)
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I had to watch that several times.

In the comments they're talking about how fast it is compared to the CGT. I dont think that is the point though, is it? It's more about the potential acceleration, or the potential top speed, because you're really not going to drive it flat out anywhere on a public road. That's like tossing two million dollars into the wind.

By pioneering all of the tech that it did, at the time when no one had things like torque vectoring and street worthy anti lock braking (Porsche came up with it in the 1970s with the 917 but they had problems on bumpy tracks), sequential turbo charging, different engine and chassis modes that you can select with a switch, tire pressure monitoring, etc etc - I think Porsche advanced vehicle technology forward by at least a decade with that one car. And it's not a one-off or a prototype. It won races. It was produced and sold to customers. It was such a milestone and a technical tour de force, Porsche was reported to have lost money on each car they sold. It's still considered a success for Porsche merely for the number of firsts that they achieved with it.

We are looking at a production car that did all of this. Think about that a minute. That is astounding.

speeder 02-03-2022 04:22 PM

The maintenance stuff doesn't matter, it's not going to be driven. Plus, it can be serviced. It's an unbelievably valuable lump of metal.

I need to dig up the original sales literature that I have on the 959. I was working at the dealership in 1986/87 and worked the LA auto show, can't remember where I got it(?)

Should be worth a pretty penny if I can find it. :eek:


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