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Steve Carlton 03-04-2022 12:59 PM

EVs in the future
 
I like the Polestars. The Polestar 1 was a halo car at around $155K. Plug-in hybrid, based on the Volvo S90 Concept. Nice car. The Polestar 2 is a chunky sedan meant to take on the Tesla Model 3. Not even a blip on the radar so far, but a nice car, too. A Polestar 3 SUV is coming next. Now the O2 Concept is out there. Maybe it'll come with a drone, like the spinner in Blade Runner 2049...

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asphaltgambler 03-04-2022 01:45 PM

......dunno man............I know these cars are stupid fast, but they don't make any noise!!
Kinda like having rough sex with a deaf woman......half the experience

Steve Carlton 03-04-2022 02:01 PM

Or being deaf yourself.

It's nice that they're super quiet. It also makes the acceleration seem effortless. Double edged sword.

zakthor 03-04-2022 02:34 PM

And I think all that torque is boring. My motorbike had too much torque, 1st went to 85, could power wheelie in 2nd. Spend all my time regulating the throttle, never get to wring it out on the road.

Drove a model X with ludicrous mode. Just crazy fast from a low speed, throw you back in the seat. But to what end? Is much more fun to have a vehicle that you need to wring it way up to get the excitement. Electric is the opposite of drama.

I'd rather drive the crap out of a 10hp vespa on rainy cobblestones then a model x on america's roads.

Fundamentally electric motors have power that declines with rpm and it makes 'em boring. And then they overheat and run in safety mode.

craigster59 03-04-2022 03:16 PM

I saw a Polestar 2 on the road yesterday. It almost looks "de-badged" like they don't want you to know what make or model it is.

Steve Carlton 03-04-2022 04:14 PM

It kinda is. There's that weird symbol on the back. The model info is on the lower front of the front door (if it hasn't been removed).

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Arizona_928 03-04-2022 09:37 PM

Battery tech?

Brando 03-05-2022 12:23 PM

I get that manufacturers want to make EVs look all futuristic and stuff, but why do they have to make the wheels so damn ugly?

stevej37 03-05-2022 12:29 PM

^^^ I was thinking the same....simply terrible.

Steve Carlton 03-05-2022 12:38 PM

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stevej37 03-05-2022 12:41 PM

^^^ Those I like.

Steve Carlton 03-05-2022 01:05 PM

They actually look pretty cool.

Noah930 03-05-2022 03:59 PM

They look like you're trying to keep rodents out of your brakes.

Steve Carlton 03-05-2022 04:09 PM

Looks like Honda and Sony are going to partner up this year and maybe get something on the market by 2025. Honda has been slow to get on the EV bandwagon. Usually they're on the bleeding edge.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/sony-honda-join-hands-electric-vehicles-2022-03-04/

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kach22i 03-05-2022 04:43 PM

I like it a lot.

The Polestar O2 EV is a modern Lancia Stratos
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No specs for the car were released, but the construction of the production ready aluminum platform is one you could only find in exotic sports cars a few years back. That, in combination with these Lancia Stratos proportions should make this one fun car to drive.

Joe Bob 03-05-2022 05:50 PM

I’d never buy an electric but I would buy a hydrogen fueled one.

Evans, Marv 03-05-2022 08:27 PM

I suspect hydrogen may be a serious factor in the future, but we're going to have to run through the EV phase for a while - with the building of the charging station infrastructure & all. My wife's Tesla is working out great for our needs at this time.

Steve Carlton 03-05-2022 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 11626799)
I’d never buy an electric but I would buy a hydrogen fueled one.

Curious. Why? Greener?

john70t 03-06-2022 07:09 AM

Hydrogen is odorless, difficult to keep sealed up, and must be filled to high pressures to be useful (which uses energy). Tanks creak and pop when filling. I've seen a few vids where they went off like mini car bombs in the trunk. It's a nice clean renewable energy source for the right purposes.

stevej37 03-06-2022 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 11626799)
I’d never buy an electric but I would buy a hydrogen fueled one.


Honda Clarity
https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-fuel-cell

john70t 03-06-2022 07:44 AM

Flashy little 100k sports cars are nice, but I'd like to see more practicality.
More hauling storage and lighter battery and less engine in hybrids.
EVs still need something to recharge them in the stix and wherever infrastructure is not there.
The Atkinson cycle is better than the Otto for this but there are some interesting designs out there.

Tim Hancock 03-07-2022 08:51 AM

There is enough oil in the ground to use gasoline far into the future. I won't be buying a silly electric car any time soon even though my tax dollars have been subsidizing others to do so. I drove 400 miles each way on a ski trip the last few days. Would have sucked to have to stop part way and wait to get charged. Damn greenies are forcing this **** down everyone's throats.


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