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id10t 03-08-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11629399)
Neighbor across the street just inherited a (1950's?) vintage Remington. Glass, bolt action. He showed a 25 yards group of 5...coulda covered the hole with a quarter. The high grade walnut stock made me drool. Probably next to impossible to find that wood today. Of course, right handed.

Lefty shooters probably have very limited options...perhaps a custom? $$$$ though.

Quarter? That is all?

Here's a series of 10 5 shot groups at 25 yards out of my old BTV showing how the groups tighten up after 20-30 rounds when changing ammo. Group #8 shows why you pay the 20c/round for match ammo vs. the 8c/round for CCI SV

https://itsjustcrap.com/smremtargetBTV.jpg

tabs 03-08-2022 11:51 AM

CZ 457..lots of quality for the buck.

mjohnson 03-08-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11629543)
Quarter? That is all?

Here's a series of 10 5 shot groups at 25 yards out of my old BTV showing how the groups tighten up after 20-30 rounds when changing ammo. Group #8 shows why you pay the 20c/round for match ammo vs. the 8c/round for CCI SV

https://itsjustcrap.com/smremtargetBTV.jpg

That's similar to a Rem 541S gifted to me by a colleague moving to a "gun-difficult" state, even just shooting CCI Std. Five shots, one ragged hole. That rifle's far better than I'll ever be, that's for sure! Now if I could only find and afford ammo, I've always wanted to do silhouette shoots...

drcoastline 03-08-2022 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11629399)
Neighbor across the street just inherited a (1950's?) vintage Remington. Glass, bolt action. He showed a 25 yards group of 5...coulda covered the hole with a quarter. The high grade walnut stock made me drool. Probably next to impossible to find that wood today. Of course, right handed.

Lefty shooters probably have very limited options...perhaps a custom? $$$$ though.

I can't, in order to stay in the base class I can not spend more than $1,050 gun and glass combined and the official must be able to pull them up on his cell phone and get the current MSRP.

id10t 03-08-2022 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11629618)
That's similar to a Rem 541S gifted to me by a colleague moving to a "gun-difficult" state, even just shooting CCI Std. Five shots, one ragged hole. That rifle's far better than I'll ever be, that's for sure! Now if I could only find and afford ammo, I've always wanted to do silhouette shoots...

https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-cci-standard-velocity-ammo-40-grain-lead-bullet-0035

On some stuff this guy is running free shipping on $200+ orders.

You can also get it direct from CCI but they have a limit on number of boxes...

https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/standard_velocity/6-35.html

ramonesfreak 03-08-2022 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11629610)
CZ 457..lots of quality for the buck.

Yes. 457 American

I don’t have one but I want one. Very nice

MSRP $569

cjh 03-08-2022 04:48 PM

Look for a used CZ 452 in lefty if you can find one in the price range.

Alan A 03-08-2022 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11629309)
Yeah 1000 yds is a tough range to find.

For the OP - since he seems to be in NJ - there’s one up by Albany iirc.
A guy I work with used to shoot high power and had to drive up there to get out that far.

drcoastline 03-09-2022 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan A (Post 11629978)
For the OP - since he seems to be in NJ - there’s one up by Albany iirc.
A guy I work with used to shoot high power and had to drive up there to get out that far.

Yes I am in NJ, all the way at the bottom. Albany, NY? That's about 300 miles and 5 hours away.

drcoastline 04-17-2022 07:27 AM

Happy Easter

I finally found a Savage BTVLSS. Not exactly the stock I wanted but it will do. I am more interested in the Stainless barrel action. I also got most of my bits and pieces to build this thing. Harris 6"-9" Bi pod, Savage 20MOA rail, Vortex 4-44 scope, Vector Optics throw leaver, Leupold rings.

Started putting everything together to see how it all fits. The rings are too low the zoom ring hits the rail so need to swap those out. I think I am going to go with a cantilever set of rings. I am also not settled on the Vortex Scope. I have a thirty day no questions asked return so I will try it out for a bit. If I can get the rings swapped out today I will go to the range today with my buddy who just mounted an Arken on his over the top Bergara build and see how it stacks up. I am also interested in the Athlon. There are some super cheap optics West Hunter and Sniper that I may give a try just for Shaggles. If all goes well I hope to bed the action and pillars this week.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

At some point in the future I will be adding an Arca rail.

Bill Douglas 04-17-2022 12:52 PM

Looking good.

That stock will be a pleasure to use with the thumbhole making it a nice natural angle for the trigger pull.

id10t 04-17-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11668080)
Happy Easter

I finally found a Savage BTVLSS. Not exactly the stock I wanted but it will do. I am more interested in the Stainless barrel action. I also got most of my bits and pieces to build this thing. Harris 6"-9" Bi pod, Savage 20MOA rail, Vortex 4-44 scope, Vector Optics throw leaver, Leupold rings.

Started putting everything together to see how it all fits. The rings are too low the zoom ring hits the rail so need to swap those out. I think I am going to go with a cantilever set of rings. I am also not settled on the Vortex Scope. I have a thirty day no questions asked return so I will try it out for a bit. If I can get the rings swapped out today I will go to the range today with my buddy who just mounted an Arken on his over the top Bergara build and see how it stacks up. I am also interested in the Athlon. There are some super cheap optics West Hunter and Sniper that I may give a try just for Shaggles. If all goes well I hope to bed the action and pillars this week.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650200186.JPG

At some point in the future I will be adding an Arca rail.


My BTV was dead nutz accurate with all sorts of subsonic ammo (CCI SV, various SS HPs, SK STD+, etc) BUT it wanted 20-30 rounds down the tube when clean or when changing ammo to show its best accuracy with a given load.

In short, you'll probably have a great rifle, but ignore the hits for the first 4-6 mags and store it dirty with the type of ammo you use the most.

drcoastline 04-17-2022 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11668309)
My BTV was dead nutz accurate with all sorts of subsonic ammo (CCI SV, various SS HPs, SK STD+, etc) BUT it wanted 20-30 rounds down the tube when clean or when changing ammo to show its best accuracy with a given load.

In short, you'll probably have a great rifle, but ignore the hits for the first 4-6 mags and store it dirty with the type of ammo you use the most.

That is spot on with everything I have heard, watched, read about this action. Accurate out of the box and likes 20 or so rounds season the barrel after each cleaning.

vash 04-18-2022 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11629708)
I can't, in order to stay in the base class I can not spend more than $1,050 gun and glass combined and the official must be able to pull them up on his cell phone and get the current MSRP.

i have a boring Savage MarkII, FV-SR that is fantastic. i bet all in i paid $450?! i did put a Boyd stock on it so it felt more adult sized.

i could surely improve my garden variety Vortex scope for much better optics and be competitive. with CCI SV, i can barely measure group sizes at 25 yards. at a junkyard shoot, i became really unpopular in a random 125-yd shoot out at clay pigeons. i could see my bullet in my scope in the rainbow arch to the target. i got it dialed and was breaking clay pigeons while the AR guys were dicking around with their scopes. as my penance they made me do the walk to replace the targets.

i might look into this Base class. hmmmm...

tabs 04-18-2022 12:46 PM

I jis pued an Anschutz mdl 54 Match made in 69 NIB...


wt 22 you get a lot of bangs for the 4 buck whereas with other CF's you get a lot less...and you don't have to save the brass..

drcoastline 04-18-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11668771)
i have a boring Savage MarkII, FV-SR that is fantastic. i bet all in i paid $450?! i did put a Boyd stock on it so it felt more adult sized.

i could surely improve my garden variety Vortex scope for much better optics and be competitive. with CCI SV, i can barely measure group sizes at 25 yards. at a junkyard shoot, i became really unpopular in a random 125-yd shoot out at clay pigeons. i could see my bullet in my scope in the rainbow arch to the target. i got it dialed and was breaking clay pigeons while the AR guys were dicking around with their scopes. as my penance they made me do the walk to replace the targets.

i might look into this Base class. hmmmm...

Vash, this is the same boring MarkII you have it's just stainless. All I have read is the Mark II is accurate out of the box. I was dead set on the stainless barrel action. The limitation is I am Left-handed, I could only get this action left-handed in the Boyd's stock which was extra. The gun less all the ad on's , scope, mounts, bi-pod, etc. was $430.00 all in including shipping. If I was right handed I could have gotten the stainless barreled action in a savage stock for about $250.00.

Yes, look into it. The matches I have watched in my area are going out to around 220 yards hence the Vortex with bullet drop compensator, but it is not necessary. Start with what you have and upgrade as needed. Oh, the Boyd's stock may knock you into the open class in NRL.22 as the Boyd stock for you is a "customization". In my case Savage offered the ruffle with the stock and they can pull it up on the internet and find an MSRP.

My goal is to build the cheapest gun I can and compete against the other guys. In time I will build my own stock take the barreled action and goodies, drop them in and mve to open class against the other guys.

Bill Douglas 04-18-2022 05:35 PM

DR, not that I know anything about it, I just quote other people.

But... What I have read is a bore polish can improve accuracy. They talked about 800 or 1000 grit paper put on a cleaning brush and pulled through the bore a few times. It was just enough to take the high spots or rough spots (lack of quality machining) off the machining of the rifling.

berettafan 04-19-2022 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11629743)
Yes. 457 American

I don’t have one but I want one. Very nice

MSRP $569


I’m not a precision shooter but have a few of the 457s and love them.

drcoastline 04-19-2022 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11669570)
DR, not that I know anything about it, I just quote other people.

But... What I have read is a bore polish can improve accuracy. They talked about 800 or 1000 grit paper put on a cleaning brush and pulled through the bore a few times. It was just enough to take the high spots or rough spots (lack of quality machining) off the machining of the rifling.

Yes, also need to polish the bolt so it slides a little smoother. Gave everything a good cleaning and oiling today, it's already feeling better. Hopefully new rings will be in by Friday, if so I can take her for a run on Saturday.


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