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tabs 03-12-2022 08:14 AM

An You Thought?
 
An you thought you could start a spoon collection? All I can say is wow!!!! Prices have gotten EXPENSIVE....$14000+ for a correct HR M1 Garand.. 4800 for a Rem 03A4, 7500 for a captured Hungarian FEMARU in box WW2. 2850 Inland Carbine, 3450 for a 1899 Krag carbine, 3000 for a Remington Mosin Nagant, 3000 for a pre ww2 FN Hi power, 50,000 for a Martial Henry..and it goes on and on.

Ya now need cubic USD's...

svandamme 03-12-2022 09:25 AM

who is An?

Seahawk 03-12-2022 09:36 AM

Where do you get your prices? I do not follow the market at all but I need to update insurance on a few things.

Thanks.

MRM 03-12-2022 09:37 AM

It’s starting to feel a lot like 1975. I remember guns, ammo, gas and commodities literally doubling in price year to year. Since then I’ve always considered guns and ammo prices as the bellwether of inflation. I don’t see them coming down in price any time soon.

fintstone 03-12-2022 09:57 AM

They finally have 22LR at WalMart here...as no one can afford to buy them.

tabs 03-12-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11633854)
Where do you get your prices? I do not follow the market at all but I need to update insurance on a few things.

Thanks.

Today's Milestone Auction in Ohio..that is going on as I write this.. It is reflective of what is going on in the mkt place..all across the Boards it is up up and away...

The HR Garand was from about a week ago..it stuck in my mind. Kramers in WI.

tabs 03-12-2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 11633857)
It’s starting to feel a lot like 1975. I remember guns, ammo, gas and commodities literally doubling in price year to year. Since then I’ve always considered guns and ammo prices as the bellwether of inflation. I don’t see them coming down in price any time soon.

It is reflective of the fragility of the Supply Chain...but also of the USD being hollowed out..it is catching up to Americans now.

Poverty for the vast majority of Americans.. if you have NO hard assets you are going to be left behind..Then when those abstract assets like stocks, bonds go by by..the rest will follow..RE is no panacea..cause you have to have people with where with all to be able to buy it...and if commercial/rentals people have to be able to pay the rent. That is the rub.

Eventually everything just deflates..where Gold, Silver, Guns and Ammo will be the new cash is king.

tabs 03-12-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11633842)
who is an?

and

Sooner or later 03-12-2022 01:18 PM

Those prices include the buyers premium?

Alan A 03-12-2022 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 11633857)
It’s starting to feel a lot like 1975. I remember guns, ammo, gas and commodities literally doubling in price year to year. Since then I’ve always considered guns and ammo prices as the bellwether of inflation. I don’t see them coming down in price any time soon.

A friend of mine has for the last 20 or so years asserted that ammunition is one of the safest investments there is.

Having seen the cost change over the last 18 months just on clay shells I’m starting to see his point.

LEAKYSEALS951 03-12-2022 04:51 PM

Thanks to Tabs's confidence in the USD, I went all in on the ruble. Now I can't even afford a plastic spoon, let alone a gun. :D

LWJ 03-13-2022 04:00 PM

Super dumb question- what is an HR M1? BIL has a neat old M1 in great shape.

svandamme 03-13-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 11635002)
Super dumb question- what is an HR M1? BIL has a neat old M1 in great shape.

Harrington & Richardson Was one of the contractors that made Korea wartime M1 Garands. They are marked "H.R.A." or "H&R

EDIT, the first ones weren't made in time for the war, tooled up and armistice came first.

LWJ 03-14-2022 02:53 AM

Thanks! It is very much a Korea War era spoon.

tabs 03-14-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11634065)
Those prices include the buyers premium?

What do you think? You are trying to be clever.:rolleyes:

When I am bidding I calculate the Buyers Premium as I bid. In the prebid I will even strategically place a bid to optimize my chances. Then before hand I calculate shipping cost, receiving and taxes.. for a rough order of cost.

For the prices realized here I calculated apx 20% BP prem into each item (the rate on this auction was apx 18% but for my own ease I round to 20%). I can not know whether the Buyer used CC + 3%, shipping, receiving and taxes paid if any (Dealer don't pay receiving nor taxes)..

There is a differential of apx 3% between a Floor Bidder and and On Line Bidder..so being online it costs more..and I am well aware of the disadvantage..by being a phone Bidder in many auctions you get the Floor Bidder BP. So I set it up to be a phone bidder.

Also On Line ONLY auctions the prices are usually a bit less because the Buyer can not put his eyeballs on an item. He has go on pix and description. That is why I will call the auctioneer on most items if I am serious..to get that eyeball appraisal. I scored a Mint 1903 1921 type NM that way..for the price of a std rifle. Also photos give a lot of detail if you know what you are looking for.

I also know how various auctioneers set up the order of the items that is being auctioned... I know by the pix presented and or descriptions if the auctioneer has a clue as to what he is selling. And they do make big mistakes.

tabs 03-14-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11634254)
Thanks to Tabs's confidence in the USD, I went all in on the ruble. Now I can't even afford a plastic spoon, let alone a gun. :D

And in being in USD's I can't afford a gallon of Gasoline let alone a spoon.

Seahawk 03-14-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11635932)
I also know how various auctioneers set up the order of the items that is being auctioned... I know by the pix presented and or descriptions if the auctioneer has a clue as to what he is selling. And they do make big mistakes.

I went up the website and was very impressed, except the colors...very difficult to read half of the submits.

I learned a lot.

Best and thanks.

Z-man 03-14-2022 06:16 PM

I just looked at the going rate for my 1980's era Hungarian FEG P9R on Gunbroker.com, and it seems my spoon has doubled or more in value since I bought it. Now its no FEMARU, but who would have thought???

Bill Douglas 03-14-2022 08:16 PM

It's like that around here too. All my sensible investments aren't doing too well - but lets not go there.

But my frivolous spending on spoons has gone very well.

I'm sure pleased I wasn't like those other boys at school who got a proper job and saved money in the bank. They're almost broke I guess.

matthewb0051 03-15-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11633854)
Where do you get your prices? I do not follow the market at all but I need to update insurance on a few things.

Thanks.

I was at the FIL's house a week ago and he had this very thick book of ALL gun prices. He was trying to value what he has for insurance and will purposes. I looked at inside cover, book was published in 2018. Prices were way off. We told him to look online but since the book came from a neighbor that knows everything, we were wrong. I will cut him some slack as he is 88.


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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11633870)
They finally have 22LR at WalMart here...as no one can afford to buy them.

Bought a box of 300 at Bass Pro 2 weeks ago for $30. They usually have a good selection of everything else (excluding 6.5 creedmore) but in 22lr not as good. I have better luck online but you have to buy in bulk to average out the shipping. Bass also gives a military discount on weapons and ammo!!


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