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rwest 03-14-2022 04:44 PM

Math question: diameter from a portion?
 
Hi,

I have a small wooden part with a curve to it and I want to replicate it on the lathe by turning a complete circle so trying to figure out how to take the measure of the slice to get the whole.

To make a simple comparison, if I had a slice from a pie and wanted to figure out the diameter of the pie from just the crust curve of one piece.

Hopefully the brain trust can steer me “straight”.

Thanks,
Rutager

Ayles 03-14-2022 04:49 PM

I think this calculator gets you what you need:
https://www.omnicalculator.com/math/sector-area

herr_oberst 03-14-2022 04:50 PM

Like this?

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stevej37 03-14-2022 04:56 PM

I was about to say "I love banana cream pi"...but am afraid of where that might go.:eek:

John Rogers 03-14-2022 04:56 PM

You can do it by math or get a large enough piece or craft paper and stick a pin to act as the center and rotate your piece around it and draw a line on the outside until you get a full circle. Then measure across the circle.
John

rwest 03-14-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11636092)
Like this?

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Perfect- great explanation and easy to follow.

Thanks!

rwest 03-14-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 11636091)
I think this calculator gets you what you need:
https://www.omnicalculator.com/math/sector-area

Thanks, I found that one, but my math skills aren’t good enough to figure out where to put all the numbers!

KFC911 03-14-2022 05:09 PM

Mmmm... Cherry Pi :D

sc_rufctr 03-14-2022 05:11 PM

Happy Pi day ;)

Ayles 03-14-2022 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 11636108)
Thanks, I found that one, but my math skills aren’t good enough to figure out where to put all the numbers!

Ha ok! There are links to definitions of each variable so that might get you close.

What about making a compass thats big enough to accomodate the wedge?

stevej37 03-14-2022 05:13 PM

^^^ That's what she said.

rwest 03-14-2022 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Rogers (Post 11636096)
You can do it by math or get a large enough piece or craft paper and stick a pin to act as the center and rotate your piece around it and draw a line on the outside until you get a full circle. Then measure across the circle.
John

Hi John,

In this case, my piece doesn’t go to the center, but I bet I could run lines down each side and measure from the middle to get the empirical answer. Just tried it and apparently the diameter would be huge as the lines weren’t even close at two feet out! I may have to give up on the lathe idea.

Here’s the project- I got a bunch of hand plane bodies and I wanted to make a custom wood infill for one. The originals were Rosewood or anodized aluminum, so I do have a piece to use as a pattern, just thought it would be easier to turn a section, but my lathe won’t turn a huge diameter inboard and I’ve never tried outboard turning.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1647306865.jpg

rwest 03-14-2022 05:17 PM

Apparently Byron left his camera at my place! Sorry about the blurry picture.

cockerpunk 03-14-2022 05:40 PM

this is an easily googable problem.

stomachmonkey 03-14-2022 08:33 PM

Seems infinitely simpler to use one of the pieces to trace out a template then hand shape.

sc_rufctr 03-14-2022 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11636138)
this is an easily googable problem.

Yes it is but...

rwest 03-15-2022 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11636258)
Seems infinitely simpler to use one of the pieces to trace out a template then hand shape.

Yes, once I determined how huge the diameter was going to be, that’s the route I will take.

My initial thought was that since it had several facets and a compound curve that I could get a “perfect” shape if I turned it and could also make several at once and even out of different woods by doing segments on my round blank.

Superman 03-15-2022 06:41 AM

Clever.

Amail 03-15-2022 06:45 AM

You could rough-cut the shape, then attach it to a long pivoting arm and pass it over a router.

MBAtarga 03-15-2022 07:18 AM

Rutager,

If I follow your issue - why don't you cut a jig to match that diameter and just use a router with a follower bit and/or bearing?

Edit - I didn't see Amail's comment which he posted after I had opened the tab a while ago.


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