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ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 03:36 PM

I eat and nose runs and ears itch
 
Started about a year or two ago. Doesn’t matter what I eat, nose runs like crazy and ear holes itch. I can’t go to a restaurant without a pocket full of napkins and Qtips and wife isn’t happy with me honking away or digging in my ears at the table in a restaurant.

I should probably ask my doctor but he’s an idiot

Anyone have this “condition”?

carambola 04-20-2022 03:39 PM

no, but blocked saliva ducts?

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 03:42 PM

Well that’s very interesting because I have had a history of salivary gland stones….been about 15 years since I had one though and usually the symptoms of that are immediate swelling in face and blocked ducts under tongue until it comes out

MRM 04-20-2022 03:47 PM

I can't recommend Bryan Garner and Lawprose highly enough for learning how to write clearly and for effect. https://lawprose.org/ Following his direction will improve your writing more than you can imagine until you try his approach.

As to the nose and earhole problem, you're suffering from seasonal allergies that have now started affecting people who have never had allergies before because there is more pollen in the environment than ever before, so people who didn't have seasonal allergies are now suffering from them. The nose problem is that your seasonal allergies are causing you post-nasal drip that makes your nose leak and sniffle all the time. Same thing with the earholes, except its the pollen that's affecting them and they're excreting a fluid to protect them. You probably need to get onto some OTC antihistamines like Claritin to get ahead of your newfound pollen sensitivity. It takes 30 days or so for the medicine to work, and you may need a prescription for something stronger, but that's what you have going on.

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 03:52 PM

Lawprose huh?

I dont have allergies. My nose runs when I eat, 365 days a year. Only when I eat



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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 11671228)
I can't recommend Bryan Garner and Lawprose highly enough for learning how to write clearly and for effect. https://lawprose.org/ Following his direction will improve your writing more than you can imagine until you try his approach.


MRM 04-20-2022 03:53 PM

It will transform your career. I'm serial.

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 03:56 PM

Ok thanks but I doubt that

mjohnson 04-20-2022 04:03 PM

And I cry when I poop. Not like sobs, but tears. I've done it for years now, and that's with a very healthy diet and nothing dramatic on the Bristol Scale.

Just some strange reflex for me I figure. Humans are strange, it's amazing that we even work in the first place, and sometimes wires get crossed.

And allergies - we've fully entered northern New Mexico speedball season. Benadryl/Sudafed to keep the edge off but still stay conscious. Then there's the wildfire smoke...

masraum 04-20-2022 04:05 PM

That is REALLY strange. I would have thought some sort of allergy, but then you said it doesn't matter what you eat. What about drinking? Do you get the same reaction out of drinking?

BTW, I completely understand what you're saying.

Jeff Hail 04-20-2022 04:13 PM

Gustatory rhinitis. Sensory triggering of the trigeminal nerve is stimulated. ( In your jaw and runs up the mandible) , which causes the nose to run and ears to itch.

The trigeminal nerve is the part of the nervous system responsible for sending pain, touch and temperature sensations from your face to your brain. It's a large, three-part nerve in your head that provides sensation. One section called the mandibular nerve involves motor function to help you chew and swallow.

Any invasive dental work or issues in the past year or two? Root canals, absess, infections, untreated teeth, cavitations, facial injuries? Infections can attack the nerve sheath or trunk. Even viral infections can play games with nerves. Any strange neuropathy or neuralgia in the lower jaw (nerve compression)?

MRM 04-20-2022 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11671242)
Ok thanks but I doubt that

I don't give professional advice lightly. I've followed your career as you've discussed in on the Board. If I tell you something it's because you will benefit from it. And I take pleasure only in seeing someone benefiting from my experience.

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 04:25 PM

Yea in the past 5 years I’ve had 5 crowns and numerous cavities…so lots of injections.

Have diabetes as well…not sure if that’s relevant

Can’t think of anything else


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail (Post 11671258)
Gustatory rhinitis. Sensory triggering of the trigeminal nerve is stimulated. ( In your jaw and runs up the mandible) , which causes the nose to run and ears to itch.

The trigeminal nerve is the part of the nervous system responsible for sending pain, touch and temperature sensations from your face to your brain. It's a large, three-part nerve in your head that provides sensation. One section called the mandibular nerve involves motor function to help you chew and swallow.

Any invasive dental work or issues in the past year or two? Root canals, absess, infections, untreated teeth, cavitations, facial injuries? Infections can attack the nerve sheath or trunk. Even viral infections can play games with nerves. Any strange neuropathy or neuralgia in the lower jaw (nerve compression)?


ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 11671277)
I don't give professional advice lightly. I've followed your career as you've discussed in on the Board. If I tell you something it's because you will benefit from it. And I take pleasure only in seeing someone benefiting from my experience.

Huh? This is a car forum and I am typing on an iPad. I don’t care about my writing here because writing on this forum is not my career. If you have a personal problem with me, then just spit it out

And I don’t know what your following, but other than to say generally what I do, I have not discussed my career much at all here in 15 years with anyone except Dottore

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11671251)
That is REALLY strange. I would have thought some sort of allergy, but then you said it doesn't matter what you eat. What about drinking? Do you get the same reaction out of drinking?

BTW, I completely understand what you're saying.

Nope.. just food. And I do eat a lot of spicy food but doesn’t matter. Any food does it.

masraum 04-20-2022 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11671282)
Nope.. just food. And I do eat a lot of spicy food but doesn’t matter. Any food does it.

Ah, based on Jeff's post, it sounds like the act of chewing may be a big part of the trigger which is why it's any food and only food.

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 04:44 PM

Yea makes sense because I could make a milkshake with bananas or whatever “food” in it and no runny nose

Steve Carlton 04-20-2022 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11671249)
And I cry when I poop. Not like sobs, but tears. I've done it for years now, and that's with a very healthy diet and nothing dramatic on the Bristol Scale.

Just some strange reflex for me I figure. Humans are strange, it's amazing that we even work in the first place, and sometimes wires get crossed.

And allergies - we've fully entered northern New Mexico speedball season. Benadryl/Sudafed to keep the edge off but still stay conscious. Then there's the wildfire smoke...

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MRM 04-20-2022 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11671280)
Huh? This is a car forum and I am typing on an iPad. I don’t care about my writing here because writing on this forum is not my career. If you have a personal problem with me, then just spit it out

And I don’t know what your following, but other than to say generally what I do, I have not discussed my career much at all here in 15 years with anyone except Dottore

Dottore's old firm handles my family's international legal business, but that's neither here nor there.

I don't have a problem with you. I actually quite like you. I'm about 20 years or so older than you, and considering the comments you've made about your career progression, I thought I might offer you some useful advice that would pay dividends over the rest of your career. But since you're not interested, pay me no mind and keep doing what you're doing. I will not bother you again.

Steve Carlton 04-20-2022 05:02 PM

Speaking casually with shortcuts seems normal on a forum like this. I get the feeling rf can spiff up the lingo when needed.

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 05:03 PM

Your not bothering me. I just found the sales pitch unusual since you don’t know me (I thought?) and this is a thread about a runny nose

Thanks for the pro tip. Fortunately, my current career position does not require much writing except for emails to clients


Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 11671295)
Dottore's old firm handles my family's international legal business, but that's neither here nor there.

I don't have a problem with you. I actually quite like you. I'm about 20 years or so older than you, and considering the comments you've made about your career progression, I thought I might offer you some useful advice that would pay dividends over the rest of your career. But since you're not interested, pay me no mind and keep doing what you're doing. I will not bother you again.


M.D. Holloway 04-20-2022 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11671301)
Your not bothering me. I just found the sales pitch unusual since you don’t know me (I thought?) and this is a thread about a runny nose

Thanks for the pro tip. Fortunately, my current career position does not require much writing except for emails to clients

and now for something completely unrelated...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1650500061.jpg

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 05:17 PM

Yea that’s unrelated. & Perfect for 420 day. Thanks

Jeff Hail 04-20-2022 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11671278)
Yea in the past 5 years I’ve had 5 crowns and numerous cavities…so lots of injections.

Have diabetes as well…not sure if that’s relevant

Can’t think of anything else

Diabetic nerve issues tend to go towards extremeties by nature. Dont believe this is related.

Multiple anesthesia injections can scar the nerve. On the lower jaw injection site tends to be at the buccal (lower rear corner of the mouth) to hit the entire string. Usual symptoms manifest as sensations, shocks or zaps, neuropathy or neuralgia, and diminish or become less sensitive over time. Local anesthesia allergy would tend to peak at the time of the dental work and fade as the medication wears off and is eliminated from the body.

Anesthesia can cause or create some bizarre conditions but I would tend to go with the most obvious which is Gustatory rhinitis. Its far more common than people think.

The biomechanical action of chewing, breaking down food and releasing those tasteful chemicals all at once is a sensory storm. Who has not had a nose itch, bead of sweat on a forehead, face got flush or felt the heat when they eat spicy foods? I honestly can't think of anyone. Some may just feel the experience more than others.

Another idea is the Eustachian tubes in your throat do lead up to your middle ear. Eating action/spices/hot food may have some affect on the ears but not sure how that would tie to the sinus flow.

If you are concerned asking the dentist may be a better option and could provide better insight since they are more familiar with the trigeminal nerve than say a general practioner would be.

Eat away and enjoy your meal.

I am not a doctor but having a front row seat to everything under the sun dental in five decades totalling the cost of a used Provost is some good experience. Dentists don't provide anesthesia so you dont feel the procedure, they juice you to shut you up and let them work.

ramonesfreak 04-20-2022 05:27 PM

Thanks for the excellent information. !!

gchappel 04-20-2022 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11671216)

I should probably ask my doctor but he’s an idiot

”?

You need to find a new doc.
Especially if you will trust a bunch of guys on line over your own doctor.
Most are not idiots- but just like auto mechanics a few are.
gary

LWJ 04-20-2022 09:00 PM

Not sure who Jeff Hail is but damn. Dude called this one.

Good luck.

ramonesfreak 04-21-2022 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gchappel (Post 11671414)
You need to find a new doc.
Especially if you will trust a bunch of guys on line over your own doctor.
Most are not idiots- but just like auto mechanics a few are.
gary

I know. Had him 30 years. I think I keep him because my elderly parents go there and it makes it easier for me to speak to him about them.

Geronimo '74 04-21-2022 05:04 AM

Have you ever googled your condition?

I did and this came up.

The medical term for a runny nose is rhinorrhea. A person's nose might run after eating because they have food allergies, which is called allergic rhinitis. If a person's nose runs without their having a food allergy, this is called gustatory rhinitis, which is a type of non-allergic rhinitis.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321678

Geronimo '74 04-21-2022 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gchappel (Post 11671414)
You need to find a new doc.
Especially if you will trust a bunch of guys on line over your own doctor.
Most are not idiots- but just like auto mechanics a few are.
gary

also sound advice

GG Allin 04-21-2022 06:59 AM

I sneeze quite a bit after I eat, always have.

stevej37 04-21-2022 07:34 AM

I know my problem is completely different but.....whenever I eat anything toasted esp bread, I cough and hack.
I found out that when taking a bite..I was inhaling tiny toasted particles into my windpipe.
If I'm careful to not inhale air while taking a bite...it never happens.

speeder 04-21-2022 08:58 AM

I cry during sex but my doctor said that it's probably just the pepper spray.

speeder 04-21-2022 09:02 AM

I also sometimes cry when I think about how much time I've spent on this forum.

ramonesfreak 04-21-2022 09:04 AM

So do I. Lucky, I was paid while doing so for most of it

gacook 04-21-2022 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11671779)
I cry during sex but my doctor said that it's probably just the pepper spray.

That may be the funniest thing I've ever seen you write. Well done, Speeder. :D

speeder 04-21-2022 09:13 AM

Thanks, Guy, but I can't take credit for originality on that one. It's a version of an old joke. :)

stevej37 04-21-2022 10:12 AM

Rodney had a few jokes he told about crying during sex....I wish I could remember them.

Starless 04-21-2022 10:47 AM

I sneeze just before sex. 3 Times. Never fails. My wife just looks at me and counts as i sneeze. Then she'll say, ready? We get a good laugh out of it.
Good thing I'm no longer dating.

speeder 04-21-2022 02:08 PM

“Do you smoke after sex?”

“I dunno, I never checked.”

I’ll be here all week.

Steve Carlton 04-21-2022 04:13 PM

Second joke here:

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