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jhynesrockmtn 04-27-2022 06:11 AM

Mustang runs into a school bus
 
Another brilliant Mustang driver

https://www.khou.com/article/news/national/driver-slams-into-school-bus/285-20037a45-c973-401f-808b-6bd5e6cf533f

SiberianDVM 04-27-2022 06:35 AM

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Perez, 49, was charged with two counts of reckless driving
Too old to drive!! Mandatory testing for all middle aged Mustang drivers!

masraum 04-27-2022 06:40 AM

I feel like the mustang driver should be charged with a count of something (attempted murder?) for everyone in the bus. I wouldn't expect the charges to stick, and would expect the results to be guilty of something far less, but the charges/trial need to make an impression and leave a mark.

doug_porsche 04-27-2022 07:17 AM

Very sorry for the kids.
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast.
A lesson I hope the mustang driver knows now.

For the "cup half full" side.

A car t-bones a bus at 60+ mph and everybody lives.
The industry has made huge gains in crash safety!
That would not have happened when I was a kid.

911 Rod 04-27-2022 09:06 AM

He should spend a long time in jail.

GH85Carrera 04-27-2022 09:54 AM

Back in the days when I rode the bus to school we were rolling along at 40 MPH or so when an old pickup t-boned us. It hit just right under where my feet were. The bus was fully loaded and it was a long bus. We bounced a bit, but did not even change lanes. The pickup was smashed. Not one kid was even shaken up, no one sued anyone. We were all amazed at how well the bus fared in the crash. It was a USAF school bus as I lived on base and the school did not provide bus service to kids on base. The police wrote up the report and we were delivered home.

rattlsnak 04-27-2022 10:23 AM

Wow, that video is chilling!

pwd72s 04-27-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 11676991)

Thank the car Gods that only Mustang drivers screw up on public roads.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/22/watch-porsche-crashes-on-i-4-in-apparent-street-race-fhp-says/#:~:text=FHP%20says%20a%20Porsche%20crashed%20into %20a%20barrier,and%20the%20whole%20thing%20was%20c aught%20on%20video.?msclkid=f9cbdf74c65211ecbdc581 5ed23505e9

MMiller 04-27-2022 12:31 PM

Understand it's not the point of the post, but why don't school buses have seat belts?

911 Rod 04-27-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MMiller (Post 11677563)
Understand it's not the point of the post, but why don't school buses have seat belts?

So they don't beat each other to pulp with them?

fastfredracing 04-27-2022 01:02 PM

Its not only them, but it us uncanny how they seem to have taken the lead, and ran with it in this category.
My theory is that it is the lowest hanging fruit , muscle car wise, and plenty fast enough to get in serious trouble with.
Im betting a lot of not car guys grab them as their first foray into the performance car world

masraum 04-27-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 11677603)
Its not only them, but it us uncanny how they seem to have taken the lead, and ran with it in this category.
My theory is that it is the lowest hanging fruit , muscle car wise, and plenty fast enough to get in serious trouble with.
Im betting a lot of not car guys grab them as their first foray into the performance car world

Low (relatively) cost of entry means there are a lot of them on the road, and the percentage of unskilled (in the way of power) drivers, driving them is likely higher than with more expensive vehicles. Folks that can afford more expensive vehicles are usually older with better judgement. Not to say that there aren't responsible young folks that are good (don't get in accidents) drivers or young guys driving expensive cars, or old guys with expensive cars that are bad drivers.

The odds of more serious mishaps are higher with a mustang than a Porsche for several reasons.

I had a work colleague that upgraded from a Honda Accord with a 4-cyl to an Alfa Romeo giulia quadrifoglio with 505hp. He drove it like an old lady during the break in. After the break in he decided to put it into "race" mode to turn right from a stop sign to see what it was like. It didn't turn out well. He fishtailed and ended up hopping the curb and side swiping a tree. After that he was scared of the car.

pwd72s 04-27-2022 03:10 PM

^^^ This, and Fred's post both make sense. Toss in that some on the internet look for Mustang screw ups while ignoring other brands.
Not that anybody here would do that...

stomachmonkey 04-27-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11677570)
So they don't beat each other to pulp with them?

Pretty much yeah.

Tobra 04-27-2022 08:56 PM

Wow, that could have turned out a lot worse than that

Bill Douglas 04-27-2022 09:03 PM

I'm pleased it wasn't Paul.

Wow, huge amount of energy to tip a bus over. The Mustang remained surprisingly intact.

unclebilly 04-27-2022 09:32 PM

Could you even imagine the headlines if they sold Mustangs in Florida.

Noah930 04-27-2022 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MMiller (Post 11677563)
Understand it's not the point of the post, but why don't school buses have seat belts?

I remember having to do a speech on this back in HS. From what I recall:

Seat belts were apparently originally intended to keep passengers from bouncing off sharp edges and splintering wood on automotive dash boards. In a school bus, the seat back in front of you is padded.

If a car rolls over and you're suspended by the seat belt, releasing it will gently drop you on your head. In a bus, that might be a fall of several feet.

All I can recall off the top of my head, at the moment.

dewolf 04-27-2022 10:48 PM

Don't know US law obviously, but will he do time for that? He should.

jhynesrockmtn 04-28-2022 07:03 AM

My guess is the seat belt issue is in a large part $ related and the fact that school busses are a decades old design.

It's amazing his injuries were so minor and that more kids were not more seriously injured.

He should do time, a lot of time, but given our justice system, likely a slap on the wrist. It will probably depend on how much money he has to spend on a lawyer.

And yes, it could have been some other hot rodded muscle car, but in this case it was two mustangs racing. pwd72s, sorry that chip on your shoulder is so large.

GH85Carrera 04-28-2022 07:39 AM

It was kids and they tend to bounce and not get hurt easily. A bus load of pensioners would have major injuries.

I have been on several fancier tour buses that indeed had seat belts.

And I agree, that driver that hit the bus should indeed spend jail time, and an expensive fine. Maybe 6 months of weekends in jail but let him out to work at his job to earn the money to pay the fines.

masraum 04-28-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11677955)
I remember having to do a speech on this back in HS. From what I recall:

Seat belts were apparently originally intended to keep passengers from bouncing off sharp edges and splintering wood on automotive dash boards. In a school bus, the seat back in front of you is padded.

If a car rolls over and you're suspended by the seat belt, releasing it will gently drop you on your head. In a bus, that might be a fall of several feet.

All I can recall off the top of my head, at the moment.

Granted, I haven't ridden in a school bus in a LONG time, but the rear facing outer rim of the seats was basically a metal tube supporting a thin layer of vinyl. If you were a kid sitting in a seat and the bus was hit from behind, the back of your head would hit padding, but if your face hit the seat back of the seat in front of you, you were likely getting a face or mouth full of metal tube.

flatbutt 04-28-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 11676991)

Are children still not buckled in?

masraum 04-28-2022 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11678220)
Are children still not buckled in?


Captain Kirk isn't buckled in in the future, so why would kids be buckled in today.

rusnak 04-28-2022 05:09 PM

Talk about fake news.

That ain't no racing car, it's a Ford Mustang!

herr_oberst 04-28-2022 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11678685)
Talk about fake news.

That ain't no racing car, it's a Ford Mustang!

I wouldn't be surprised if the only person that knew there was a race going on was the guy in the Mustang that crashed into the bus.

Bob Kontak 04-28-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11677955)
If a car rolls over and you're suspended by the seat belt, releasing it will gently drop you on your head. In a bus, that might be a fall of several feet.

It will violently drop you on your head, your neck will snap and if you don't die you will never move again on your own volition.

Just sayin'.

jhynesrockmtn 04-28-2022 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11678720)
I wouldn't be surprised if the only person that knew there was a race going on was the guy in the Mustang that crashed into the bus.

The other Mustang, he knew

red 928 04-28-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11677444)
Thank the car Gods that only Mustang drivers screw up on public roads.

and pit bulls don't attack people

svandamme 04-29-2022 11:50 AM



at least it had the common decency to hit a concrete barrier and not a crowd or bus full of innocent children.. That's the difference between a Porsche and a Stang : better upbringing and manners in public. SmileWavy

svandamme 04-29-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11678685)
talk about fake news.

That ain't no racing car, it's a ford mustang!

+10

pavulon 04-30-2022 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11678223)

Captain Kirk isn't buckled in in the future, so why would kids be buckled in today.

Kontak will be along to explain this detail in a bit.

masraum 04-30-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11679862)
Kontak will be along to explain this detail in a bit.

If only Sniper were here.

Bob Kontak 04-30-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11679862)
Kontak will be along to explain this detail in a bit.

I can explain it in two ways.

Verbally or graphically.

#1 Pop goes the weasel cause the weasel goes pop.

#2 Your neck with a two foot drop upside down. Just the general expression of carnage. Not your/a neck pacifically.

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