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BK911 05-05-2022 06:01 PM

Research surface methodology.
Only class I ever had to study for.
Still have no idea what it was about.

rwest 05-05-2022 07:00 PM

I have always struggled with math and can never trust my results unless I can empirically prove it.

I enjoyed physics in high school, for that reason, you had an answer that had to make sense for the problem you solved, not just a number.

A930Rocket 05-05-2022 07:01 PM

After reading some of the replies, I’m embarrassed to say that I only finished with calculus if I recall correctly.

My best friend was an actuarial science major. Smartest dude I knew. RIP

dw1 05-05-2022 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 11684654)
Math and science are fundamentally different. Science is dependent on the Universe. Matter and energy and stuff. Math is not.

Remember that Newton invented calculus to explain physics.

Long ago, I decided that one could see the sequence thusly:

Life -> Philosophy -> Mathematics -> Physics -> Chemistry -> Biology -> Life

And for memories...I still shudder remembering when I was taking advanced fluid mechanics and advanced DE's at the same time. With finals for each on the same day. I learned that day what it feels like if someone was to put a spigot in my ear and turn on the tap - emptying my brain completely. Far worse than a dissertation defense.

David 05-05-2022 07:15 PM

Partial differential equations. It almost killed me. Made dif eq seem like simple addition to me. Couldn’t understand how you can have an infinite solution to every problem.

Mahler9th 05-05-2022 07:32 PM

Very high level.

Pazuzu 05-05-2022 09:20 PM

If I had bothered to do the paperwork, I would have a triple degree in astronomy, physics and math. N-dimentional calculus, differential geometry, and yes, partial diff Eq (quantum mechanics).
No real math classes in grad school, but plenty of math specific topics. I've solved the Dirac equation, and I've solved the Kerr equation for a rotating black hole. Grad thesis was based around Fourier-space transforms in 3 dimensions (AKA, light diffracting through a lens...)

All of it's gone now, I use a computer to convert things and do trig solutions for me now.

Crowbob 05-05-2022 10:19 PM

I took a statistics class in college. I should have dropped it the first week. Trouble was that it was too damn interesting to sit for an entire semester and not have a freaking clue what the guy was saying. I'm not sure I even knew what language he was speaking.

otto_kretschmer 05-05-2022 10:52 PM

I got a B in Calc 1 and 2 and a A in Calc 3 and DiffyQ. I took Dify in a summer class and it was the only class I was taking and all I did was the problems in the book. My teacher was cool and I got a better score for each exam I had. I was really in the zone for that class. Too bad I wasn't able to keep the same focus thru the rest of my undergrad but its water under the dam now as one of my former managers said.

A month ago I was digging a ditch for a gas line repair and I'm happier that I'm not having to commute anymore.

svandamme 05-06-2022 12:24 AM

Need option in the poll

I once dropped 800 ug of military grade LSD and looked back at the beginning and the end of the universe and had full understanding of all physics and math.

12 hours later i snapped out of it and watched 2 ducks on my lawn. It was a nice day


I forgot most of the math and physics crap tho

rfuerst911sc 05-06-2022 03:46 AM

I pretty much tap out at 9x9 😁

Shaun @ Tru6 05-06-2022 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 11684879)
If I had bothered to do the paperwork, I would have a triple degree in astronomy, physics and math. N-dimentional calculus, differential geometry, and yes, partial diff Eq (quantum mechanics).
No real math classes in grad school, but plenty of math specific topics. I've solved the Dirac equation, and I've solved the Kerr equation for a rotating black hole. Grad thesis was based around Fourier-space transforms in 3 dimensions (AKA, light diffracting through a lens...)

All of it's gone now, I use a computer to convert things and do trig solutions for me now.

This was my favorite part of structural molecular biochemistry.

PorscheGAL 05-06-2022 04:37 AM

I will be taking a Calc 1 Class this summer- wish me luck ;)

Prior to that: Stats and College Algebra have been the highest.

LEAKYSEALS951 05-06-2022 04:54 AM

I can count to:

Infinity. And beyond.

CurtEgerer 05-06-2022 05:17 AM

Math has always been easy for me but Differential Equations was the only class I ever flunked :rolleyes: I took it as a 'Self-Study' class that I thought would be easy. I did the self part, but not the studying part and flunked :D So 2 years later at the end of my senior year I still had this Diff Eq class hanging over my head and had to take it in my last semester. That was tough having not had any pure math classes for 2 years!

fireant911 05-06-2022 05:20 AM

Differential equations for me also... My biggest gripe and disappointment in the whole calculus through DE was the absence of applicability. We were working through mere math problems without ever knowing a real world example of the type of problem that the answer would address. I think, at least in my case, that these higher maths would been much more meaningful should an actual case accompanied the formulas.

David 05-06-2022 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fireant911 (Post 11684979)
Differential equations for me also... My biggest gripe and disappointment in the whole calculus through DE was the absence of applicability. We were working through mere math problems without ever knowing a real world example of the type of problem that the answer would address. I think, at least in my case, that these higher maths would been much more meaningful should an actual case accompanied the formulas.

Physics was where calculus started to click for me. Using triple integrals to solve a physics problem.

I had one engineering professor tell us that he didn't really understand thermodynamics until he taught it a few times so that made me feel better about it all.

I was fortunate to COOP with an electric utility during school. Between taking thermo 1 and 2, a lazy young engineer at work handed me an old max capacity performance test (real life thermo 2 calculations) and a stack of data we just collected and asked me to do the report. I worked backwards through the old report and figured it out. So I learned thermo 2 before ever taking the class. When I got to thermo 2 the professor was asking me questions! When I got to heat transfer the professor was a retired PhD from the utility I worked at so that was a bonus for me.

red-beard 05-06-2022 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireant911 (Post 11684979)
Differential equations for me also... My biggest gripe and disappointment in the whole calculus through DE was the absence of applicability. We were working through mere math problems without ever knowing a real world example of the type of problem that the answer would address. I think, at least in my case, that these higher maths would been much more meaningful should an actual case accompanied the formulas.

One of my favorite classes was Finite Element methods. The whole point was to understand the method so that when the computers could eventually do it, it would make sense. The 25 MHZ 80386 PC was the top of the line Micro at the time. Some of the "Super" computers and Mainframes could do reasonable FEM at the time.

These days, they sell FEM programs for any PC. But most of the time, I expect the people using FEM don't really understand it. That was a great Grad course and was applied math.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 11684997)
Physics was where calculus started to click for me. Using triple integrals to solve a physics problem.

I had one engineering professor tell us that he didn't really understand thermodynamics until he taught it a few times so that made me feel better about it all.

I was fortunate to COOP with an electric utility during school. Between taking thermo 1 and 2, a lazy young engineer at work handed me an old max capacity performance test (real life thermo 2 calculations) and a stack of data we just collected and asked me to do the report. I worked backwards through the old report and figured it out. So I learned thermo 2 before ever taking the class. When I got to thermo 2 the professor was asking me questions! When I got to heat transfer the professor was a retired PhD from the utility I worked at so that was a bonus for me.

My instructor (He only had a Masters and was working on his phd) was teaching Heat Transfer and I don't think he really understood it. Middle of the semester, he had a wrong answer on the exam and I had to explain to him the real meaning behind the surface to volume ratio. He only checked the "special cases" and concluded they could not be used. I had to go to a wedding and had to do the final early. I spent most of the exam checking my work because one solution was a heat exchanger (shell in tube) 1 meter long but 60 meter in diameter to make it work. Nope, he effed up the numbers. I'm sure he then fixed the exam for the other students.

flatbutt 05-06-2022 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11684543)
Is there something harder than diff eq?


I thought everyone just plugged it into a computer and it says no or idk

Matrix algebra. It made me cry. No I didn't finish the class.

masraum 05-06-2022 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL (Post 11684958)
I will be taking a Calc 1 Class this summer- wish me luck ;)

Prior to that: Stats and College Algebra have been the highest.

IMO, most of calc 1 is easier than Algebra 2/Trig. Most of Calc 1 involves some relatively simple algebra, and memorizing formula for how to take the differential of various things. If you can do algebra, you'll do fine in calc.

herr_oberst 05-06-2022 06:19 AM

Math.
My personal Waterloo, and I have the stories.
Curse you, Euclid!

(But I can spell isosceles.)

T77911S 05-06-2022 06:35 AM

i was good with math and geo.
probably alg ii in school

but i am an electronics tech. had to do LOTS of math that i had never done like imaginary numbers when i hired on so had to figure it out myself.

about to retire and the math skills are long gone.
i do or did work with "rain man" literally. the guy could calculate LOG's, interest rates, formulas, you name it. in his head.

mjohnson 05-06-2022 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11685019)
Matrix algebra. It made me cry. No I didn't finish the class.

Yup. That's one of many things that sent me into metallurgy. Less math, more "heat it hotter, hit it harder, hope it works..."

(not quite, but compared to some of our other engineer kin, we're kind of simple folk)

vash 05-06-2022 07:08 AM

i got thru Diff Eq unscathed but it was hit/miss in the beginning. the professor was from Iraq and he spoke so fast and muttered. his handwriting was chit too. my mom's cousin sent him an anonymous email telling him he was losing his entire class. hahah..

the poor professor apologies and slowed it down. we killed it.

to this day i only remember newton's law of cooling being a differential equation. what, why, who? i forget everything. never used it again.

GH85Carrera 05-06-2022 07:11 AM

Like Jethro Bodine, I can do my gazintas. 5 gazintas 10 twice and so on.

We use a lot of weird math in aerial photography. The computer program does the hard part, but we have to understand the answer, and tell it how we want a project set up to run for the data a client wants. Aerial triangulation makes my head hurt.

matthewb0051 05-06-2022 07:36 AM

Last thing I took in college was business calculus. Failed every test and made a C

IROC 05-06-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11685067)
to this day i only remember newton's law of cooling being a differential equation. what, why, who? i forget everything. never used it again.

For me it is the infamous partial differential equation problem for "the vibrating string"...

vash 05-06-2022 08:32 AM

i am 90% sure therum 2-13 is "vertical angles are congruent " (im not googling it, to not ruin my fantasy)

Tobra 05-06-2022 11:16 AM

I took mushrooms and did Calculus in college once

masraum 05-06-2022 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 11685067)
i got thru Diff Eq unscathed but it was hit/miss in the beginning. the professor was from Iraq and he spoke so fast and muttered. his handwriting was chit too. my mom's cousin sent him an anonymous email telling him he was losing his entire class. hahah..

the poor professor apologies and slowed it down. we killed it.

to this day i only remember newton's law of cooling being a differential equation. what, why, who? i forget everything. never used it again.

My professor wrote the book. He was the author of the text book. Maybe it was the fact that I wasn't paying proper attention, but even when I asked questions, I felt like he knew the material, but wasn't good at teaching/explaining it. It was probably me.

Bob Kontak 05-06-2022 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11684621)
Funny thing is I can do maths in my head better than most can do it on paper.

When I sat for the Certified Public Accounting exam in 83 I could do a good deal of math in my head. It's amazing how far your head can stretch when you use it.

I quickly approximate better than "most" because of that.

But I can also approximate with great certainty the number of times I have said the word maths is zero.

stevej37 05-06-2022 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11685365)
I took mushrooms and did Calculus in college once


I took mushrooms and did college once.

rusnak 05-06-2022 12:49 PM

What this board needed was a math ***** measuring contest done with digital precision and chains of equations.

dlockhart 05-06-2022 01:01 PM

calc for biz morons and I had no idea what I was doing, all that counted was escape.

I am envious of folks who just seem to get the maths with almost no effort.. ( a former GF fit the description )

masraum 05-06-2022 02:18 PM

One of our kids did not get math, starting from way back, I imagine. The other did, similar to me.

Most of the time through school (Jr high and HS), I could look at stuff and get the right answer. I didn't always know how/why, but I did.

When I was older and our kids were older, I learned to use a Japanese abacus. I think most kids should be taught how to use an abacus, especially the kids that have a tough time with math. It may not work for all of them, but it's another way of visualizing and working with numbers at a basic level. I feel like it might help some of those folks as it really breaks them down to basic building blocks, and I suspect if they learned, it would help them later as they got into higher (algebra) primary school type stuff.

GG Allin 05-06-2022 02:30 PM

I was fine with math until they started throwing letters in it.

3rd_gear_Ted 05-06-2022 02:54 PM

I was taught;
Algebra is math in two planes
Trig is math in three planes
Calculus puts it all in motion.
Off to the planets we go and Calculus gets you there.

LEAKYSEALS951 05-06-2022 04:51 PM

What I'd like to know...

Who is the ppot member who can only count up to ONE (star.)...and why?


Huge Kudooos if you have the balzzzzzeee to answer why......:D

Challenge on.

(yes... ) I am calling the one star wonder out. Your time is up. speak up or shut up..... There are real problems in the world.

Why is every Vash (and every other) thread such low appeal in your book you need to speak out?

Vash adds to the world. What do you do?

island911 05-06-2022 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 11684636)
.... My business card says "statistician."...

Wow, supe. What are the odds of that? :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbueno (Post 11684729)
Mechanical engineering degree FTW

+1

Quite a few math classes after Diff Eq.

Too bad that so many math classes are taught by math majors. - ask them for an example application and they just stare at you with WTF in their eyes.

Pazuzu 05-06-2022 08:21 PM

Thinking more, I also had non-linear equations, and chaos (non-integral exponents, fractals, etc). Also, error theory (what happens if your initial conditions change in such and such a way, OR, if you can't find a solution, can you find a solution if you change something slightly).

As for Diff EQ, I ended up taking it 3 times. First time, I failed it, since it was a class of 97 electrical engineers and 3 physics majors (one was me), and every example was EE related. The three of us were lost. That, and drinking too much that year...
Second time was at the local CC, after, you know, drinking too much that year.
Third time was back on campus, after finding out that the second time wouldn't transfer. Ended up taking it side by side with 2 other higher level math courses.

Ugh.


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