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vash 05-05-2022 01:45 PM

what is your highest level of math reached?
 
a poll! just curious, since i grew up bad at math, and then figured it out way later in life.

vash 05-05-2022 01:52 PM

excuse the typo. this is about Math anyways. :D

cabmandone 05-05-2022 01:54 PM

I lernt my cypherin and gazintas with Jethro.

MBAtarga 05-05-2022 01:57 PM

There's a difference in taking a math class - and learning/retaining it for life.
Which is your poll? - as my answer deviates widely....

dw1 05-05-2022 02:04 PM

Advanced calculus, advanced DE's, stats, plus....

And yes, I actually used it. Applications included tensor field analysis, NURBS 3D geometry, flow analysis of non-Newtonian fluids, probability analysis, etc.

I did work in both aerospace and medical research. The most interesting math was analysis of blood flow in arteries and throughout the cardiac cycle in connections with development of mechanical circulatory assist devices, since it is 3D flow of a non-Newtonian fluid (blood) contained in objects with abnormal stress-strain characteristics (arteries & veins). Also, trying to maximizing assisted flow while minimizing hemolysis is a very interesting challenge - interestingly, some of the same technology used by the US Navy to make "silent" submarine propellers is applicable to LVAD impellers. And I used stats (especially DOE, SPC & 6 sigma) in manufacturing.

Oh yeah, and managerial accounting as well, since I was a department head (and senior staff member) and responsible for budgets, cost analyses, ROI calculations, etc.

Arizona_928 05-05-2022 02:04 PM

Is there something harder than diff eq?


I thought everyone just plugged it into a computer and it says no or idk

oldE 05-05-2022 02:05 PM

It has been 49 years since I last used calculus. I wouldn't say I was the go to person for it.

Best
Les

aschen 05-05-2022 02:10 PM

calc 1-3, diff eq, linear systems of diff eqs, graduate level statistics (which was actually just a basic stats class somehow).

I hated math in high school, but got into it in college, I havent really retained much of it 20 years later computational methods just estimate solutions for complex analysis these days

dw1 05-05-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11684543)
Is there something harder than diff eq?


I thought everyone just plugged it into a computer and it says no or idk

Try getting a "plug and chug" computer approach to work with reverse nonlinear stress-strain curves or with non-Newtonian fluids.

It takes some significant work just to set it up for a computer-based solution and to avoid the well-known "garbage in - garbage out" problem.

Crowbob 05-05-2022 02:14 PM

47.

The answer is always 47.

dw1 05-05-2022 02:17 PM

the ultimate answer is 42

(per Douglas Adams)

stevej37 05-05-2022 02:21 PM

I took Calc 1 the first year of college. The next year I didn't find it important to go to classes.
Calc 2 didn't work out.

KFC911 05-05-2022 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 11684558)
47.

The answer is always 47.

Show yer work :D!

masraum 05-05-2022 02:30 PM

I'm pretty decent at math. In HS I got up to AP Calc and AP tested out of Calc 1. In college, I had to take calc 1 anyway because it was a different version. I got up to diff eq. I took some classes in the local comm college 15-20 years ago. My wife was getting a degree. I took calc 1 and 2 with her and then took calc 3 "for fun." (and it actually was)

masraum 05-05-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11684565)
I took Calc 1 the first year of college. The next year I didn't find it important to go to classes.
Calc 2 didn't work out.

My calc 1 was at 7am. I came out of that one with an A despite only going for the tests. By the time I got to Diff Eq, I had the same problem you did with calc 2.

masraum 05-05-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11684518)
a poll! just curious, since i grew up bad at math, and then figured it out way later in life.


But dude, you're Asian. It's a rule that you're supposed to be good at math.

gacook 05-05-2022 02:36 PM

Boolean Algebra and Statistics were my highest maths, I guess. I don't really count statistics as a math class...more a class about how to use numbers to manipulate people.

TimT 05-05-2022 02:41 PM

Quote:

calc 1-3, diff eq, linear systems of diff eqs,
This, plus one call Advanced Mathematics.... The teacher was a twenty some y/o smoking hot chick who was doing her Phd at Columbia University (I didn't attend Columbia)

I swear she got worked up and aroused talking about String Theory....and other theoretical concepts...

Somehow I passed that course......at the end of the semester there were three of us left in the class..

zakthor 05-05-2022 02:43 PM

Come on some jerk's gotta pick the 'good will hunting' answer.

I peaked with algebraic geometry and a year of probability (<- which kicked my ass). I took it because it was interesting but it was useful because its the foundation math of machine learning.

LWJ 05-05-2022 02:48 PM

High school Trig.

But, I had a stupid stats class in my MBA program. No vote for that.

Rot 911 05-05-2022 02:58 PM

Calc 2 and statistics. Never really used either one as I ended up an attorney.

stevej37 05-05-2022 03:06 PM

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Bill Douglas 05-05-2022 03:08 PM

51 out of 100. Back in the day that was a pass.

Funny thing is I can do maths in my head better than most can do it on paper. It must have been growing up with maths cubes which were wooden blocks coloured different colours for lengths and numbers.

dw1 05-05-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 11684597)
Come on some jerk's gotta pick the 'good will hunting' answer.

That kind of "math" is more in the realm of ivory tower theoretical philosophy, imho.

I took enough math to know what things like Peano space, Koch curve, Cantor ternary set, Sierpinsky gasket, and Mandelbrot set are, and to stay far away if I want to avoid my brain turning to jello....

Just give me a good 3D fluidic tensor field analysis to sink my teeth into... like maybe fuel-air mixtures flowing through a manifold into an array of combustion chambers....

Superman 05-05-2022 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gacook (Post 11684586)
I don't really count statistics as a math class...more a class about how to use numbers to manipulate people.

Statistics is math, in every sense. It is based on probability. The Central Limit Theorem, for example, is a discovery, not an invention. Manipulation of people is not statistics, and not limited to statistics. Any "math" can be used to manipulate, as can non-math information. My business card says "statistician."

My path was similar to Vash's. For a time, I was not trying to understand math. I was just studying enough to pass the tests. That got harder and harder, so I decided to actually learn it. Math became lots more interesting once I actually understood what the formulas were doing. For example, the integral is a way of measuring the area under a curve by creating a series of rectangles of that area, and then collapsing those rectangles so they are infinitely thin and there is an infinite number of them.

It is unsurprising to me that actual mathematicians/actuaries work on theorems in their minds with their spare time. It is fun.

aschen 05-05-2022 03:35 PM

I am not prepared or interested in a debate on if statistics is math or not. However, I think a statistical view of the world is one of the most useful practical skills to have.

Too much drama in the world related to anecdotes and population sampling traps

red-beard 05-05-2022 03:39 PM

I passed Differential Equations, but that is all.

rusnak 05-05-2022 03:42 PM

Ha.. applied statistics kicked my ass in college. I went from an A in the more theoretical statistics, to C/D territory.

If you math nerd guys have a strong opinion on math, maybe you need to go get some nookie and not be so uptight.

Superman 05-05-2022 03:50 PM

Math and science are fundamentally different. Science is dependent on the Universe. Matter and energy and stuff. Math is not.

red-beard 05-05-2022 03:53 PM

Well, I did several applied statistics classes, but they made sense...

gacook 05-05-2022 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 11684636)
Statistics is math, in every sense. It is based on probability. The Central Limit Theorem, for example, is a discovery, not an invention. Manipulation of people is not statistics, and not limited to statistics. Any "math" can be used to manipulate, as can non-math information. My business card says "statistician."

My path was similar to Vash's. For a time, I was not trying to understand math. I was just studying enough to pass the tests. That got harder and harder, so I decided to actually learn it. Math became lots more interesting once I actually understood what the formulas were doing. For example, the integral is a way of measuring the area under a curve by creating a series of rectangles of that area, and then collapsing those rectangles so they are infinitely thin and there is an infinite number of them.

It is unsurprising to me that actual mathematicians/actuaries work on theorems in their minds with their spare time. It is fun.

“There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics.” ― Benjamin Disraeli tags: attributed-no-source, lies, lying, misattributed-mark-twain, statistics, truth

So, if your business card reads (not says, unless it's audio :P ) "statistician," I take that to mean you have attained the highest degree of liar? :D

Perhaps I misstated my view of statistics...some maths require very difficult formulas and lots of work (some problems in my Boolean algebra course would take 5 pages to fully flesh out). Statistics was boringly easy (as a class).

masraum 05-05-2022 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 11684636)
Statistics is math, in every sense. It is based on probability. The Central Limit Theorem, for example, is a discovery, not an invention. Manipulation of people is not statistics, and not limited to statistics. Any "math" can be used to manipulate, as can non-math information. My business card says "statistician."

My path was similar to Vash's. For a time, I was not trying to understand math. I was just studying enough to pass the tests. That got harder and harder, so I decided to actually learn it. Math became lots more interesting once I actually understood what the formulas were doing. For example, the integral is a way of measuring the area under a curve by creating a series of rectangles of that area, and then collapsing those rectangles so they are infinitely thin and there is an infinite number of them.

It is unsurprising to me that actual mathematicians/actuaries work on theorems in their minds with their spare time. It is fun.

When I took Calc 1-3 the last time, and paid better attention and thought about what was happening, it was a lot more interesting. Realizing and thinking about things like the relationship between the formula for distance, speed, acceleration, jerk, etc... and calculus is interesting. Vectors and calculus is interesting.

Bill Douglas 05-05-2022 04:04 PM

A friend of mine was doing something maths post-grad at uni. She said the banks and insurance companies were fairly much in a bidding war to get her to work for them.

Funny thing is she said she didn't really like maths but did it because others couldn't do it.

Bob Kontak 05-05-2022 04:12 PM

Took my final in business Calculus which got into differentials but not integrals. 82 or 83.

I was the only one left taking the exam because I went over everything two times.

Mark Leeney, the graduate instructor at Kent State lit a cigarette and went to the chalk board and started drawing strange looking circles.

I smoked a cig and finished the test. It was a surreal moment. Butted it on a piece of notebook paper and wrapped it all up for safety.

I walked up to his desk where he had a small hardback book titled Modules and Rings. I didn't even ask. Shook his hand and walked out.

TimT 05-05-2022 04:20 PM

I'm an Engineer... have worked in Construction Management in and around NYC... the Mid -East... for 43 years...

Years ago I was doing some homework at work.. on the Williamsburg Bridge.. when an Ironworker walked by going to break... He leaned over and looked at my work and told me It was wrong... I was like wtf.. later talking to him.. he explained the problem and how to derive the solution... This Ironworker was actually an actuary... he help me with Calculus and Diff EQs...

But he hid it he never wanted the other Ironworkers to know he was a brainiac...


I asked why he was working as in Ironworker... NYC Ironworkers make huge coin... but have short careers....

He said when he was done working for Local 40. he could have an easy life as an actuary...

Erakad 05-05-2022 04:26 PM

I graduated in a science field, only went to pre-algebra, calculus was required the year after I declared (thank god!)...I'm terrible in math! Statistics was required, and believe it or not did well!? Required again in post grad...and did well. Statistics was the only "math" I found useful, used it all the time in my jobs...but never needed (ever) calculus.

look 171 05-05-2022 04:28 PM

Calculus was it. It kicked my ass in college. That was required for my Industrial Technical Management degree. Took Calculas in high school and got a D. Math isn't much fun for me (likes Geometry and Trig) and neither was English or most subjects, so I decided that if I ever need to figure thing out something, hire and engineer. Problem solved. If a Plane is going to NYC with a head wind, bla, bla, blaaaa. Just give me my peanuts and let me sleep.

hbueno 05-05-2022 05:21 PM

Mechanical engineering degree FTW

plain fan 05-05-2022 05:37 PM

The trick is to take Linear Algebra before you take Diff Eq

masraum 05-05-2022 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plain fan (Post 11684746)
The trick is to take Linear Algebra before you take Diff Eq

The trick is to quit before you get to DE. ;)


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