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masraum 05-07-2022 05:12 PM

Anyone used a scythe? Got one and still use it?
 
I suspect some of you older fellas and/or country/farm fellas have used one.

What are your memories of using them? Easy, hard, all about the technique, tips, tricks? Any crazy accidents? :eek:

We bought one. It appealed to my nature. I like doing unusual things and doing things the old fashioned way. Sometimes it's a revelation of how great the old ways are. Sometimes it's a revelation of how great the new ways are. But no matter what, it's an educational adventure.

The main reason that we got it was to clear at the end of a ravine where we can't get the mower. It works remarkably well on normal grass and weeds, the kind of stuff that you'd mow or use a string trimmer on. It's a bit tougher on the stuff along the ravine. But I think there's a bit of a learning curve. I can tell when I get the stroke right and when I get it wrong. The blade (whole thing really) is thinner and lighter than I'd have expected, and it's razor sharp. Based on movies and a lack of experience, you think it's more like a machete, something that you'd hack with. But it's a super light, razor sharp, slicing instrument.

The blade is from Austria. The handle is from Maine. You can order a "kit" from a place in Maine which is what I did.

https://scythesupply.com/

https://scythesupply.com/images/Outf...o%20length.jpg

stevej37 05-07-2022 05:18 PM

I remember my father having one....but the handles were a little different. The lower handle was attached to the main beam.

I have a smaller version that I use sometimes. Serrated blade...works well on low weeds.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg

MRM 05-07-2022 05:22 PM

My family had one or more on the farm I grew up on. we had a lot of hills and valleys where you couldn't mow the weeds. My dad had grown up in the era where people used them to harvest grain, so he wanted to try one on our farm.

It was kind of fun to play around with but it wasn't much good for weed clearing, especially on uneven ground. It's so heavy and with the two handles, it's awkward to maneuver. My impression was that it was suited to cutting grain or hay on a flat field where keeping the stems or stalks in a uniform direction was important. For weed cutting nothing ended up beating an old long-handled weed cutter that was basically a golf club handle with a blade instead of the club head.

There definitely is a learning curve to it. I tried to cut hay with it a few times just for fun. At first the hay is a less risk of getting cut that your own legs. After a while you progress to making a mess of what you're trying to cut, and eventually you get the hang of drawing the blade at the correct angle to cut the stems so they fall where they're cut. It takes a while to figure out how to use the ergonomics of the device so it works for you, not against you, because it's not intuitive.

From what I recall a lot of the trick was to let the scythe do as much of the work as possible. You need to keep it pretty parallel to the ground and low. You pull the scythe toward you, level to the ground, in a slight arch. You can't cut more than a certain length away from your body, even though you feel like you should be able to. A lot of the effort and frustration comes from trying to take too big of a swing.

EDIT: the weed cutter above is what we always used to clear weeds instead of the scythe unless we were just having fun.

herr_oberst 05-07-2022 05:30 PM

(heh heh - snath! - heh -heh!)

wildthing 05-07-2022 05:37 PM

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masraum 05-07-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11686266)
I remember my father having one....but the handles were a little different. The lower handle was attached to the main beam.

I have a smaller version that I use sometimes. Serrated blade...works well on low weeds.

I looked at those, and was going to buy one. If there had been one with a long handle, I'd have bought it, but they all had short handles.

masraum 05-07-2022 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11686273)
(heh heh - snath! - heh -heh!)

Slap, slap, slap that snath. Like that.

masraum 05-07-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wildthing (Post 11686276)
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Yeah, that's exactly what I looked like today my first time out! ;):p:D


I'd watched a couple/few videos, and read some stuff on using the scythe. Yeah, it would take some getting used to, and harvesting grain would add a level of complexity, but it actually wasn't that hard to use.

My first target this morning was a patch of taller thicker grass. Part of the deal is that the angle of the blade to the snath needs to be "closed" (more acute) vs "open" (the difference between the two is not much). I didn't have the blade tight enough and the angle opened up. I got the blade angle adjusted and got the blade tight and went out later while the missus was mowing. I trimmed the weeds under the fencing, and actually got "decent" at it (considering it's my first day). I went down to the ravine where some of the stuff is thicker and more reedy. That was tougher. But it's not that bad, and was interesting. I can see myself using it instead of a weedeater for a lot of our weedeating needs.

Bill Douglas 05-07-2022 06:33 PM

I used one as a teen. they are very easy to use. Obviously keep it sharp. But they are very well balanced and not uncomfortable to use.

masraum 05-07-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11686293)
I used one as a teen. they are very easy to use. Obviously keep it sharp. But they are very well balanced and not uncomfortable to use.

that's what all of the websites and videos say, and that's what I found today (granted I didn't use it that much).

Bill Douglas 05-07-2022 06:49 PM

Yeah. I wouldn't want to mow a hay paddock with it, but for here and there sort of jobs it was excellent.

I used it on the farm for cutting stinging nettle that used to grow under trees in the fields. The nettles were kind of soft stuff so I guess they were easy to nail with the scythe.

LWJ 05-07-2022 09:53 PM

The Uncle cleared a large hillside with one last year. He has two replaced knees and is over 80.

Me? String trimmer.

red 928 05-07-2022 11:15 PM

Only a scythe deals in absolutes

oldE 05-08-2022 02:42 AM

My Dad's scythe had a steam bent snath and felt like it was curved around your body. Also, the blade had a channel shaped like a rain gutter along the back edge which captured the stalks of grass and deposited the grass in the windrow. I never got good at it. The spacing of the handles and their angles is very individual. In the hands of an expert you can hardly believe how fast the grass is falling.

Best
Les

tabs 05-08-2022 03:33 AM

My Dad used a hand held one to trim the Ivy when I was a mere lad. I also used it when I could be coerced to take on the task..

ZOO 05-08-2022 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11686263)
We bought one. It appealed to my nature. I like doing unusual things and doing things the old fashioned way. Sometimes it's a revelation of how great the old ways are. Sometimes it's a revelation of how great the new ways are. But no matter what, it's an educational adventure.
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This is the same reason I like to use an axe to split wood. A few days at subzero temps at our cottage, and I am reminded how difficult simply "living" was for most people. Keeping a fire going is a lot of work. So is drawing water.

I have the advantage of a chainsaw. I can't imagine using said axe to fell trees . . . or one of those giant two-person saws.

oldE 05-08-2022 04:37 AM

Zoo, using a crosscut saw wasn't so bad. Having a good rhythm with the person on the other end was critical, as was sharp teeth on the blade. You were certainly warm. Limbing the tree after felling was the real test of a sharp axe. My BIL was an artist with a single bitted axe. Before his axe was through a limb, he was already set to gather the energy of the swing to direct it to the next one. I couldn't dream of keeping up with him.

Best
Les

red-beard 05-08-2022 05:01 AM

I had several that came with my Massachusetts house. I never used them for cutting grass, only scaring children at Halloween.

KFC911 05-08-2022 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 11686344)
The Uncle cleared a large hillside with one last year. He has two replaced knees and is over 80.

Me? String trimmer.

Chainsaws, hydraulic log splitters, Stihl 2-cycle string trimmers, sliced bread ....

Mine has been used and abused for over 2 decades ...

Naw... I don't slice my own bread these daze either :)

masraum 05-08-2022 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11686375)
My Dad's scythe had a steam bent snath and felt like it was curved around your body. Also, the blade had a channel shaped like a rain gutter along the back edge which captured the stalks of grass and deposited the grass in the windrow. I never got good at it. The spacing of the handles and their angles is very individual. In the hands of an expert you can hardly believe how fast the grass is falling.

Best
Les

I was surprised by that. When I bought the one that I bought, I had to measure from the ground to the top of the femur and measure my cubit and provide my height so they could provide a custom snath. Now pretty much no one could use this thing other than me. If someone else wanted to use it, we'd have to buy another snath.

GH85Carrera 05-08-2022 07:06 AM

My grandfather had one. He was a lefty, and it was "backwards" to what I would use. I did not have anyplace to put it at the time. Now I wish I had kept it as a wall hangar.

I don't have any property that would need a scythe, just a urban yard that a mower and edger can take care of.

I do have grandpa's old axe, cutter-mattock and double headed axe and sledge hammer.

LWJ 05-08-2022 07:39 AM

^^^bingo! As a lefty, it didn’t occur to me why I was so totally clumsy with it until this. Thanks!

stevej37 05-08-2022 07:40 AM

^^^ GH85
The old time axes are so much better than today's axe.
Try to chop down a tree with a new axe...most are worthless.

I still have my grandpa's double headed axe. It's weighted perfectly, the handle fits your hand while swinging, and the head is thin and sharpens easily.

Superman 05-08-2022 08:32 AM

For its purpose (cutting large amounts of tall grass quickly), a good scythe is incredibly effective.

GH85Carrera 05-08-2022 09:34 AM

Anyone used a scythe? Got one and still use it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 11686534)
For its purpose (cutting large amounts of tall grass quickly), a good scythe is incredibly effective.


A brush hog or hay harvester bets it all to hell. And makes round bales of hay for sale.

Jeff Hail 05-08-2022 10:37 AM

I had a really big one. Could swing it like a bat.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652031403.jpg

masraum 05-08-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11686575)
A brush hog or hay harvester bets it all to hell. And makes round bales of hay for sale.

There's a field next to our property that is ~15 acres. They bring in various pieces of equipment over time. I think the first cuts the hay, then there's a thing that rakes it into windrows, then another comes out and makes the big round ~6' bails.

fintstone 05-08-2022 06:23 PM

Yep. Grew up swinging one of those. The same one my dad used and his dad used. Could clear tall weeds/grass really fast. Much faster than a string trimmer, but lots of arm strong needed.
Sometimes pulled up a snake or two. Being able to swing the long blade was a "coming if age" event...as you had to be a certain size and strength to handle it/make it work. Before that, you got "kids work" like pulling carrying wood, pulling weeds and slopping hogs.

The guy in the video is working fast, but would not last. That is not the proper swing (to work all day). He has adapted to the size of the patch he is clearing...far too long a swing. It needs to be smoother.

We also used an axe and crosscut saw to fell trees and saw them up. Plowed by hand as well...or used a mule. We got a large tiller and I ran that all day in the spring to break up the clods on new land we were planting (that turned over with a spade in the fall/winter. We had no large power tools. Even used hand augers to drill.

fintstone 05-08-2022 07:09 PM

My pop clearing an overgrown 3 acre property (of a relative in Viriginia) on vacation in August. Hardly breaking a sweat and in his travel clothes. The man was like a machine. He is 42 in the photo, but could go daylight til dark until he died. Old dudes were tough back in the day.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652061940.JPG

KFC911 05-09-2022 02:26 AM

^^^^ There is "strong" ... and then there is "country strong" ... and goes all day long ;)... cool pic! I don't remember seeing that type of scythe around here ... looks wicked!

Given room to swing.... I'd learn to swing righty .... clearing around a pond.... Stihl still :D

cabmandone 05-09-2022 03:51 AM

Some folks calls is a scythe... I calls it a kaiser blade. mmmhmmm

masraum 05-09-2022 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11686902)
My pop clearing an overgrown 3 acre property (of a relative in Viriginia) on vacation in August. Hardly breaking a sweat and in his travel clothes. The man was like a machine. He is 42 in the photo, but could go daylight til dark until he died. Old dudes were tough back in the day.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652061940.JPG

cool. thanks for posting.

Jeff Hail 05-09-2022 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11687018)
Some folks calls is a scythe... I calls it a kaiser blade. mmmhmmm


Two different tools. Kaiser Blade is more like a hockey stick with a large carpet knife blade on the end of it confabled by a mad hockey player. Then we have the Darrow which is a crescent single hand held cutting tool and pretty wicked.

Then we have Karl Anderson who liked his taters.


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vash 05-09-2022 09:54 AM

i wont even use the word "Scythe"./

masraum 05-09-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11687296)
i wont even use the word "Scythe"./

Come on! You're a knife guy!

KFC911 05-09-2022 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 11687296)
i wont even use the word "Scythe"./

I never have before this thread earlier :D...

These are what hung around all the barns in my youth ... called 'em "slings" I think...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652122634.jpg

masraum 05-09-2022 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11687428)
I never have before this thread earlier :D...

These are what hung around all the barns in my youth ... called 'em "slings" I think...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652122634.jpg

When doing some research, I saw those listed as "sling blades" (which made me chuckle) as well as "grass whips."

I had originally planned to get one but all of the versions that I saw had short handles, like a golf club, and I didn't want to futz with that.

cabmandone 05-09-2022 01:30 PM

Don't make me whip your grass young man!

stevej37 05-09-2022 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11686266)
I remember my father having one....but the handles were a little different. The lower handle was attached to the main beam.

I have a smaller version that I use sometimes. Serrated blade...works well on low weeds.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg



We called them 'weed whips'
perfect for working on your golf swing
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fintstone 05-09-2022 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11687428)
I never have before this thread earlier :D...

These are what hung around all the barns in my youth ... called 'em "slings" I think...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652122634.jpg

These are what I you used until I could handle the other one. We kept the scythe razor sharp. You could cut hay with the scythe. It fell cleanly and uniformly. Those (slings) were used by those without the size/skill for the scythe and were only good for weeds (they were relatively slow in comparison).

This guy has the right idea:

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