Baz, the sink you're looking at does look like it is good quality. It has 18 ga steel and some sound deadening. But I would still encourage you to look for a sink that has additional features. You're going to be using that sink everyday for a long time. It should be as comfortable and convenient as possible.

The two features I highly recommend are low profile and a recessed lip. You want the sink to be as flat to the countertop as possible so that water doesn't gather around the sink. You want to be able to wipe water from the countertop into the sink easily. That's why under-mount sinks are so convenient.

The second feature I highly recommend is a recessed lip on the sink. The flange has to sit on the countertop, and you want that as thin as possible. But water will still splash up from the flange onto the countertop unless the lip is countersunk a little. If you have that little extra dip in the flange/lip of the drop-in sink it makes a world of difference in keeping the kitchen sink and counter clean.

Rounded inside corners help keep the sink clean.

Also, one that comes with a base/inner liner is super handy for a utility sink. I've made my own out of teak and/or cedar but something more professional is classier.

Commercial sinks can come with a valve in the drain accessible from the front. Seems to double the price of that hardware but it looks pretty convenient - especially after the above wood bits occlude getting even a rubber stopper into the drain.

Surely at some point we'll take it too far, but the "newlywed Oooh-la-william-sonoma" phase is over and we're on to simpler and cheaper and/or more durable things. There's a reason that people doing this for a living don't shop at the mall...

MRM - thanks - you are making a compelling case and I will take a look at the one you linked as well as the one I linked as they are both showing "in stock" here, fortunately.

I was trying to think about whether what you said about water gathering around the perimeter as being a problem for me in the past. Of course when one does their dishes by hand in their sink, as I do, there will always be that scenario. In the past I have always just wiped it down with a hand towel. No biggie. Seems you'd have to do that anyway even if you were able to swipe as much as possible into the sink. So I dunno. But I will take a look and make a decision when I go there later tonight.

The Kohler I just removed had a huge bulkhead jutting upwards so either way I'm in for an improvement.

The old sink is out and despite the weight and awkward handling factor I didn't smash any of my toes! I did change out of my flip flops though and into some close toe shoes. If I had to go to the emergency room at least I wouldn't look like a complete fool...lol.

That sucker had some weight. It's sitting on a big towel on the floor now ready for me to drag it somewhere.

I put some blocks of wood around the perimeter as I lifted one edge and then the other - kinda like when you remove a bicycle tube - keep working the levers.

I guess my stop valves need replacing because the water kept dripping out of my feeder hoses. I ended up re-attaching my old faucet just to stop the leaking. Can fix the valves later - no worries - shark bites! :)

I'll be headed to HD later and will provide an update later tonight.

Thanks again for the comments and input! SmileWavy

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Pal has the same one. Its divine.

Absolutely. White porcelain cast iron looks great if you follow the precautions to keep it from getting scratched.

I would prefer stainless steel, but quality costs, thicker gauge metal, nicely welded seams, and sound deadener. I went to a few stores a while back to compare, and you can really tell a big difference once you start comparing across a wide range of prices.

I like single as well but can understand the need for dual bowl.

I have zero experience with the sink suggested, but my intuition is that an included faucet is going to be pretty flimsy.

If you can swing a decent kohler, moen or similar faucet I think it will be better to use and easier to service. I think a nice faucet will cost as much as the sink unfortunately.

Whatever you decide, I wouldn’t buy from Home Depot. Sheet metal gage is thinner from Home Depot than from a plumbing supply. You should be able to get below retail at plumbing supply too since they’re priced for the plumber to make money when pricing at retail.

Yah - looked at a few and phew depending on what you want some were $2-300 and more. :eek: I realize like everything else you have to pay the fiddler but at the end of the day it's just a kitchen faucet. If I don't like the one that came with it - I'll get a different one.


Too late! :cool:

I got the one I had in the OP. Looked at the others and didn't see anything that changed my mind. I did give all the others a good look though, trust me.

Forgot to get caulk but I know I have some here somewhere. Just not sure if any is still usable.

Going to get it set up anyway.....

Stopped at Aldis afterwards and picked up some froz. Jumbo shrimp - cooked with tails attached. Haven't had those in a while....yum!

The fit is perfect! Love the look. Also the fact it's so light and easy to lift & move around! :D

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Yes, all of that said, get one with some decent gauge to it. The one I posted is in our house, it is thick, was not cheap. I have the same sized one in the lunch room at our shop, didn't spend the money on it and it is thinner gauge and noticeably different.... Same faucet though lol

Cheers

You put yours in upside down, same as I did mine. I was told by my plumber that the drain goes toward the front. But I wanted to be able to use the faucet to jet the drain in my copier room sink because there was no room for a food grindy thingy.

That looks like a nice sink, Baz, and it was a good price. It has heavy steel and rounded corners. Get a nice seal of caulk under the lip and it will serve you well for decades.

I changed my mind and flipped it around to have the drain in front even though the drain is in the way now.

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It's pretty much only used to make coffee for the conference room or my office.

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I replaced our kitchen faucet a few years ago with a more expensive unit from home depot which was around 230$ I think. I was honestly disappointed with its flimsiness a bit. It is super tall so has a big lever arm.

We just spruced up our bathroom and got a new shower. An internet rabbit hole convinced me I should buy better faucets.


Bought 2 basic Kohler's on amazon at almost 800$ for the pair which was painful. However, I was very impressed with how sturdy and well built they were. Not sure if it was worth it but at least feel like I got something for the money.

Of course one of the sinks had the tap holes cut right next to the sink bowl so I had to take a grinder to all the hardware to mount them. Amazing how easy jobs can turn on you.


Aldis brings joy to my inner cheapskate. Some fantastic bargains in there.

Smeg is the name of a coffee maker!? Yikes reminds me of another word and a bit unfortunate.

Thank you, MRM.

I'm already enjoying the upgrade and am pleased with my decision. Especially the single handle faucet is much more efficient than my old twin handle.

Took a little work to get the drain piping properly configured underneath but was able to manage. And no leaks!

While I had the drain pipes off, I used my Ryobi cordless drain auger to do a quick clean out too.

Obviously I'm a terrible caulker so will have to do a little cleanup on that part but otherwise it all worked out.

These wire racks that lay on the bottom are ingenious I have to say. Looks like I won't need the old plastic dish drain I was using.

I learned a lot from those who posted on the thread and want to say thank you to all.

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Clear caulk hides a multitude of sins! :)

Ha ha - I know. I was using what I had on hand. Believe it or not - the tube had a split and the caulk was still usable - so I just opened up the split and used a putty knife to apply.

Oh well - nature of the beast - I'm admittedly a hacker! :D

After further contemplation....at some point later this year I will take the sink back out, clean off all the white caulk, and re-do with clear. In the meantime I will explore using a weather seal type of adhesive tape to use as well in addition to the caulk.

Since this sink is so lightweight and is not attached with any clips, it shouldn't be a big deal to do this and well worth the effort.

You've heard of people learning the hard way? That's me sometimes....