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Never late. I wanted my money's worth. And got it.

What about the flipside? When the instructor is late for class...

When I was in school some discussions revolved around how long to wait if a teacher doesn't show..

An Adjunct Professor wait 15 minutes then bail....

A Professor wait 30 minutes then bail..

If the Professor is a Dr wait how long?

When I took Diff Eqs the Professor who happened to be a Dr was chronically late to the class... So much so that we called him out on it a few times.. He was so arrogant that if you addressed him as Professor, he would correct you and say he has a Doctorate...

I don't think I'm out of line expecting that the professor shows up for the time the that I'm paying the school for..

^^ Instructors that are late have no business reprimanding late students. I arrive 10 minutes prior to class to set up my PowerPoints and be available for any inquiries my students would have.

My job in school was to make 'A's ... hs & college. I was a self-learner with a high apptitude... had a few professors who's classes I would not miss.... ever. My degree was in Computer Science and Quantitative Analysis. If I had to teach a professor the finer points of 370 Assembler then I wasn't too concerned with being late... and I didn't give a rat's if he had a PHD in maf.

If the prof was tardy.... I think they got 10 min... 15 for a PHD. If they were a grad student then I probably wasn't there to even notice :D

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11720130)

Great post my Air Force Brother.

I helped put three young enlisted men into college programs my first tour...two aircrewman and a mech.

All three had reservations about their ability to compete with "college kids".

I told them that many "college kids" view an 8 0'clock class as a hardship...be you, treat college like a flight schedule with the Chief looking over your shoulder and you will crush it.

They did. All three.

So much of life is showing up as best you can...being late and unprepared is a different animal from being late and reedy to roll.

Yup if I could fill my class each term with recent prior service students it would make life sooo much easier...

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11720205)

Yup if I could fill my class each term with recent prior service students it would make life sooo much easier...

Agreed!!!

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11720205)

Yup if I could fill my class each term with recent prior service students it would make life sooo much easier...

Some of that is probably due to the fact they aren't still 18 yr old kidz getting away from home for the first time.

Girlz gone wild.... boyz too :D

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Originally Posted by PorscheGAL (Post 11719732)

My experience is: the students show up but search their phones the whole time.

I would need a paper bag to breathe into to not go postal on those punks If I taught a class.

I had some more to say but I just got a phone text and forgot. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/freak.gif

I went to a commuter university downtown. Traffic and parking were always terrible. I forget what class it was, but I was always late after work. One time I walked in and my professor said I’d be late to my wedding, funeral or something like that.

Edit. I was on time for my wedding but have died yet, so I don’t know about the funeral…

I am not sure what to think now that I am older and had been beat around a bit in industry and agree with both side from many of your comments. Some profs just walk around with a chip on the shoulders. No one can debate or reason with them because of their PhDs. The law prof for example, what the hell does the hat has anything to do with learning or getting his message across? On the flip side, I understand where he's coming from.

I always remember the struggles to make ends meet due to not having enough time in the day and when work got busy. I must take advantage of time to make the money and save it for the rainy days when work was scares. No one will understand that but those who lived through it. These profs need to be realistic about some of these college students because not all of them have rich parents who can just send their kids off to "get an education". For many, its an open door to a better life or a middle class job. They must work just to survive through college. Its not easy and the some profs have forgotten that. In my earlier example, it a fooking religious studies class and I hated it. The glorify 500 level GE class to leech more money out of us and I have to take his siht? Way I see it, its a business deal. Get more fees from me, then let us come and go as we please. We pay for the classes after all. Grade us based on test scores not by listening to his BS. The other time was my 5:40pm Accounting 101 class. he rode my ass the first time, second class meeting, I walked in 15 late. No parking and traffic was a btich that day coming in from Santa Monica. It was a community college in Pasadena. Lectured me for 5 min about the importance or accounting and "my" type of work. Missing his lecture for 15 min was my huge loss. I finally said, when I run my business, I will have CPA handle it and it was foolish to do it myself, and only a dummy will represent himself in court instead of hiring a lawyer and his advice was a terrible one. He threw me out of class. I dropped the class and took it next semester and all was fine. All he needed to say was try to be on time? He should have brought his doctorate diploma and hung it on the wall. I would have given him his respect.

I never ditch class because I paid for them with my hard earned money and was always on time for all my morning classes. After my first year, morning classes was just too difficult due to my type of work.
Coming from different locations or job sites getting to 5:40 classes on time was a huge challenge when traffic was bad.

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Originally Posted by SCadaddle (Post 11720108)

No, I was just pulling their leg about a pine knot (there wasn't one) being about 33' north of where they had determined the initial point to be restored. "Restored" by long accepted means created and adopted by the Bureau of Land Management (the original BLM) in the restoration of lost and obliterated corners. It's all about the evidence. What original evidence to the corner can be found and what can't, how it all weighs in on just exactly where to restore a corner only after it being deemed not obliterated but truly "lost". The earliest monuments were either an in the field crafted wooden post or a mound of stones or a series of earthen pits and mounds. All depended on what was locally available and conditions at the site of the corner. In the Southeast, pine trees were abundant and the use of a pine knot for a corner was and has been found to be a very durable monument. They don't rot and typically just char over in a forest fire. Still plenty of pine knot corners to be found in the rural areas. After the turn of the century with the advent of the automobile it became common to use a buggy axle as a corner. Remember, we were still decades from having metal detectors to find a corner. I've found pine knots, buggy axles, muzzle loader, shotgun and rifle barrels at corners. I've even once set iron pins on a rural survey only to have the adjoining owner, while I'm still on site, drive a cut off drive shaft complete with 1/2 U joint over the top of my iron pins.

We set the monument where those involved in the restoration had determined it to be set. Interesting you caught the part about using what was left of the original monument in the new monument. That's the proper thing to do. It gives pedigree to the new monument and a restored corner monument with the remnants of the original monument carries the same "weight" as the original corner. Also notice in the video near the end the remnants of the original bearing tree, or "witness tree" also gets a new tag as to it's witness to the monument. It's an accessory to the corner as well.

Lots of cool and interesting info, thanks for the explanation.

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11720111)

Personally my Intro to Linux course is aimed at the LPI cert and the content is all provided by Cisco via NetAcademy. I get to fill things in with hands on experience in class, so class time is almost all laba time. Grading is straight out of Ciscos content, with weekly labs and two exams. With my Linux Services course, I expect students to do a little bit of reading beforehand - maybe 4 pages max per week - and I spend about 10 minutes doing a overview of it all, a demo of how things work, and then the rest of class is lab time, so they can implement a router, dhcp server, dns server, file server, web server, and mail server with me sitting there to help them get unstuck when they skip a step and don't RTFM.

Cisco has Linux training? I haven't considered any training in a long time. Back in the day, I've attended a bunch of Cisco training (specific to Cisco devices, routers, switches, etc...). I guess some of the new Cisco stuff is technically Linux based, and there's a lot of coding and stuff moving into the networking world, but it sounds like the class that you're describing is focused on linux servers. Interesting.

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I've noticed the quality of my incoming students has decreased. We've also lost all of our competent full time faculty with industry experience, and we're about to relocate the entire ITE program to a branch campus, so many adjuncts are considering leaving. I'm in that list - since I have no control over the quality of our program, I'm not going to be involved with a ***** program and having to go to the branch campus will kill my free time between full time job and teaching and then add an extra 20 minutes to drive home at night.

That sucks on several levels.