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Pizza making. Your tips, tricks and traps.

I'm quite good at making pizzas. But certainly not very good. What are your tips, tricks and traps when making the perfect pizza?

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Wife makes our crusts with her sourdough. It adds a very unique element to the pizza, and it's pretty awesome.

Aside from that, I have no special secrets...just white sauce instead of red for me.
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The best pizza I ever made came from a Ooni Pro 16. Store bought dough, canned sauce, really good cheese.
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I have always said the sauce and the cheese are the key. I use a Sicilian style sauce that I found online and then perfected. I always use a good quality mozzarella... NEVER the bag stuff. The crust I always go homemade and I use cornmeal. I always pre cook the crust just a bit before I add toppings. While adding toppings, I let my grill and stone come up to around 550 then it all goes back in.
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Some excellent tips!!!

My friend Hamish has an outdoor wood fired pizza oven that he heats up to 400 Celsius (that's 750 F). Does a ciabatta dough, random toppings, loads it in with a big wooden paddle. Then he only cooks it for a couple of minutes. They are amazing.

I use bought, but good quality bases, good toppings, but they are definitely a poor cousin to Hamish's pizzas.
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Type 00 flour, lots of gluten. After it raises let it age 3 days.

700 degree pizza stone.

After that? Nothing but crushed and drained tomatos with garlic and italian herbs, buffalo mozzarella, and peperoni and mushrooms.
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2/3 mozzarella and 1/3 munster cheese is what we used, iirc.

Dough was beaten to sticky gluten mix in an industrial mixer 5-7am, weighed, cut, and folded up into rounds on a olive oil stainless sheet, placed into freezer to settle.
Take out a cold dough ball,
Squash it out in a circle,
Grip around the edges while rotating until a fat edge is made with a big lump in the middle,
Slap onto the flowered plastic countertop, push and rotate until a basic shape made, repeat any steps as necessary.
Toss and turn on both your knuckles while spinning. One guy could bounce the things on a single finger.

Ladle sauce in a circle and smooth out. Same with cheese.

Oven was 450 on stone. hot and fast. iirc

That's all I can remember atm.
It was a damn good detroit-based pizza company which served a fine product.
All their food was great.
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cook bacon crisp, crumble on top of pizza prior to cooking

this will improve everything but a vegetarian pizza

acquaintance has a wood fired pizza oven in his backyard, which is pretty sweet, I have done them over mesquite on a weber kettle and had them turn out fantastic.
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Less is more.

Here in New Zealand pizzas are "more, more, more" which ruins a pizza. Some of our (bought) pizzas are more like a quiche they are so loaded up with ingredients. I need to stop myself to keep the pizza as it should be.
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Pizza steel in oven, heat with broiler for 1 hr.

Dough is sourdough starter fed, 3 days in fridge to ferment.

Good tomato, good mozz. Also like Rabe and sausage, and figs w/ prosciutto.
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What didn't work: the pizza stone thing from Pampered Chef. I used it on grill one time and it split in half.
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I've been up in Vermont visiting my mom... no laptop, and sketchy cell service...

For the last few years making a really good simple pizza margherita has been akin to Sisyphus... I make in my mind a perfect pizza... then the next one is a disaster.....

Anyhow: Less is more...

It takes at least 3 days to make the dough...00 flour (Caputo, Anna, King Arthur, Anson Mills)...yeast, salt, water... that's it.. Initial rise at room temp.. then at least 2 days in the fridge.. get the dough back to room temp before preparing the pizza..

Sauce: San Marzanos, hand crushed..

Cheese: Drained fresh Mozz. not the pre-shredded garbage...

Cooking: As hot and quick as possible...Over 700f if possible..it makes a difference..

Finishes: basil and olive oil.....grated grana padano, parm.......

To fancy it up: pesto....

I do have an oven I can get up to almost 900f... I got a gen 1 Ooni when they were offered on Kickstarter... It's crude compared to what they offer now... but it works...

Ooni



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Ramp and Garlic scape pesto




Off the res... on this one

Roasted beets, balsamic caramelized onions...goat cheese


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+1 for Typo 00 flour.
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Damn you Tim. I haven't eaten and that looks amazing LOL
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I kid of forgot a "Money Shot" LOL

You can see the sauce through the bottom of the dough


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cook bacon crisp, crumble on top of pizza prior to cooking

this will improve everything, especially a vegetarian pizza.
Sorry, I had to fix that for you!
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I like the sound of these Ooni machines like Tim's. The gas one would suit me.

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