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stomachmonkey 07-05-2022 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11734224)
Scam? You're an idiot. It is the #1 corporate recruiting tool.

Its also the biggest lead gen tool for lazy BDR's.

4 cold calls so far in the last 2.5 hours. I know because I have a burner number tied to it.

The emails are incessant.

The latest trend is them reaching out on weekends.

Those I generally engage with to let them know I'd never do business with anyone that thinks it's appropriate to pitch me on my days off.

And none of them have any etiquette.

On the occasions I do answer every single one will open with "Is this Scott?" forcing me to respond with "Who is calling?" which most times they will answer with their name and nothing else forcing me to ask from what company?

What happened to the days of proper decorum, "Hello, My name is Joe Smith calling from The Widget company. I'd like to speak to Bob if he is available"

The ones that really annoy me are the ones who call from our competition. "I checked your website and think there is synergy with my company and services we can offer you"

Either you did not do your homework or you don't even know what business your own company is in because we are competitors.

It's a spam factory.

RANDY P 07-05-2022 09:58 AM

Lead source for Indian telemarketers, LOL.

rjp

masraum 07-05-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11735271)
Lead source for Indian telemarketers, LOL.

rjp

Yep, and I ignore all of those requests.

I've also heard of some crazy stuff from over there. I've heard of folks applying for jobs, and being told that they'd already applied via some recruiter in India. I've also had a buddy that was interviewing folks for a position received HIS resume from a guy in India with the Indian guy's name on top.

Cloggie 07-06-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11734224)
Scam? You're an idiot. It is the #1 corporate recruiting tool.

Totally disagree....I have literally hired dozens of people, been hired myself about 25 times over my career....not one through LinkedIn.

Human Remains at the companies I have worked for over the years **at most** use it for a resume check, but even then, most candidates submit fresh resumes.

Its not reliable as people self-present, any ad you put out there literally gets hundreds of applications almost entirely by people without any relevant qualifications, its more work to wade through the crap on LinkedIn than it is to just post on your company website and, much more successfully, use the internal staff networks to bring forward recommendations.

It had a place at one time, but like everything Microsoft touches, it turns to **** pretty fast.

D.

3rd_gear_Ted 07-06-2022 12:17 PM

Been getting contract gigs on a constant basis from Linked-in since I retired from Boeing IT in 2010.
Accenture, Cognizant & others, nice gigs with expenses. God bless them

Bill Douglas 07-06-2022 12:25 PM

I'm guessing the identity theft guys love the place.

matthewb0051 07-06-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11734110)
LinkedIn has turned into quite possibly the largest spam source in the known universe.

Garbage.

I like to call it the Facebook of the Army JAG Corps. It is just a big suck fest that they all participate in and cheese up to the bosses by liking what gets posted.

matthewb0051 07-06-2022 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11735094)
What happened to the days of proper decorum, "Hello, My name is Joe Smith calling from The Widget company. I'd like to speak to Bob if he is available"

.

God forbid someone actually say, "I'd like to speak with Mr. Jones". This first name business drives me crazy, especially if I'm dealing with a company and paying them for something. I'm not your buddy.

look 171 07-06-2022 03:49 PM

Cool, Steve. Thanks. Will get myself off it for sure this way, I surely hope.

Rick Lee 07-06-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11735094)

The ones that really annoy me are the ones who call from our competition. "I checked your website and think there is synergy with my company and services we can offer you"

Anyone who uses the word "synergy" with me loses all credibility instantly.

Anyway, i finally used LinkedIn today to find a boss at Verizon and I'm pretty sure I have ID'ed the right person to send a letter if my cust. service issues does not get resolved. I've spent many, many hours on this, lots of promises from Verizon and none fulfilled. LI is good for this stuff.

McLovin 07-07-2022 07:23 PM

I wanted to be “off” LinkedIn starting 5 or so years ago but still keep my account and contacts (why, I’m not sure). So I just deleted all my personal info and changed my name to a nonsense word.
I haven’t looked at it in a few years.
This thread inspired me to take a look.
Wow! That made me feel kind of bad! :(
I retired at 50. I’ve always been very secure in my life, accomplishments, etc and I’m not one to compare myself to others. I was able to retire comfortably at 50, which was always the dream.
But holy moly!
A lot of friends/colleagues who I “grew up” starting out with in the late 80s have had a great success at the firms we were (they still are) at. Many are at the highest levels of leadership. Amazing to think, when I knew them when they first started.
My guess is most of them are doing very very well, Covid seems to have increased profits.
I’m happy for them, and incredibly impressed by their accomplishments.
My many years of retirement and being checked out and free have been fantastic, but looking at linkedin does make me feel like a bit of a slacker now. :)
And put a little bit of a finer point on how much I left on the table, haha.

sugarwood 07-08-2022 05:10 AM

You should have deleted the account, LOL.

The peak earning age for men is 55.
Retiring at 50 leaves massive opportunity cost.

KFC911 07-08-2022 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11737782)
You should have deleted the account, LOL.

The peak earning age for men is 55.
Retiring at 50 leaves massive opportunity cost.

The more you post, the less intelligent you appear to be...

McLuv doesn't need your silly advice ;).

masraum 07-08-2022 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11736590)
Anyone who uses the word "synergy" with me loses all credibility instantly.

That's the new paradigm! We're going to have to do a deep dive to leverage your core competency so we can realize a great ROI!

RANDY P 07-08-2022 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11735296)
Yep, and I ignore all of those requests.

I've also heard of some crazy stuff from over there. I've heard of folks applying for jobs, and being told that they'd already applied via some recruiter in India. I've also had a buddy that was interviewing folks for a position received HIS resume from a guy in India with the Indian guy's name on top.

Yup. Thieving bastards. Very common.

I am so sick and tired of guys with heavy indian accents named "Steve Jones" calling from these ****ty little companies in NJ, NYC, or Washington DC (my favorite) then emailing me about onsite contract jobs 2000 miles away.

rjp

RANDY P 07-08-2022 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11737796)
The more you post, the less intelligent you appear to be...

McLuv doesn't need your silly advice ;).

I don't think he actually owns a 911. No one has ever seen it. It's ficticious.

rjp

masraum 07-08-2022 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11737825)
I don't think he actually owns a 911. No one has ever seen it. It's ficticious.

rjp

I think someone here has met him in person. For whatever reason, I want to say it's Bob K, but I'm not positive.

He wasn't so negative when he first got here, but these days he seems to mostly be negative all of the time.

john70t 07-08-2022 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11735296)
I've also heard of some crazy stuff from over there. I've heard of folks applying for jobs, and being told that they'd already applied via some recruiter in India.

I once renewed an apt rental ad on Zillow.
The previous time I had posted everything was great. Big company. Lots of eyeballs. Great.

This time every email was routed through their servers. Several click-throughs about the fair housing act etc. Uh ok. I've accepted and rejected applicants of all flavors. Oh and phone calls too because my direct phone number was apparently altered in the ad posted. And phone calls would be recorded. More stern legal warnings. Wow this is not a friendly experience at all. I was now under hostile deposition.

Got a few phone calls from people with ethnic names who wanted to talk but didn't want to see the place. Got an email saying an applicant had passed their background check and was ready to move in asap. I never authorized any of that. To be able to view this 'application'? They wanted to run a full credit check on me.

stomachmonkey 07-08-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11736590)
.... i finally used LinkedIn today to find a boss at Verizon...

Was at Snowmass with the family over the Christmas break.

The "kids", 18 and 21, wanted to try snowboarding so we bought them lessons. The lesson area for Snowboarding is not on the lower mountain like virtually every other lesson at any other slope, it's a gondola ride to mid mountain.

Mid mountain also has a scenic outlook that people not skiing will go check out.

Wife and I decided to bag on a day of skiing but the kids wanted another lesson so fine, we traded the day of lift tickets for more lessons.

Wife and I decide we want to go watch the lesson but now we need to buy a single scenic view lift pass which was like $120 per person or something ridiculous like that. I'm already dropping a couple grand a day at this place so that was just insulting.

Tried speaking with the staff to appeal to their logic, it's snowing like crazy, visibility is like 30 ft max so it's not like we are trying to get a free scenic view cause there is none, they can see my account activity and know we are not skiing, have returned our equipment already and the kids are in lessons. All no go so I'm pretty annoyed but whatever.

Wife and I take free chair that takes you between the two retail areas and we share it with a nice old woman who it turns out had just dropped her 9 yr old granddaughter off for a lesson but was forced to pay for a gondola pass to do that.

I was pretty pissed at that.

Went on LinkedIn and found the VP of Operations. Sent her a nice courteous note about what we had experienced and while I disagreed with their policy I accepted it.

BUT, the grandmother being forced to pay to deliver her minor to a lesson was inexcusable. It was extortion. What Grandmother would let their 9 yr old grandchild take a solo ride half way up the mountain to a crowded area and have to find her lesson among the throngs of people up there. I reminded her what a massive liability issue they may be exposing themselves to with their policy and that their staff should be empowered to make judgement calls.

She actually responded. She already knew about my situation, I'd spoken to several people pleading my case. She was concerned about the Grandmothers situation and promised me they'd figure out who she was and refund her and that they would revisit their policy because yeah, it was kinda F'd up.

So sometimes it works.

Seahawk 07-09-2022 05:02 AM

^^^ Excellent.

I found this funny:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1657371715.jpg


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