More VW Scirocco Love

[Racerbvd]

This is coming to Florida and will be available
Notice the decal, so if you are in Europe and want to do a track event, it is good until 2022

[Shaun @ Tru6]

very cool!

[fastfredracing]

[speeder]

That’s tight.+++

[ckissick]

I keep forgetting to check for them on Craig's List, to replace the '81 I got new while in high school. Just missed this one.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/discovery-bay-1980-vw-scirocco-sold/7365778598.html

[DonDavis]

I was going to say "Lik..."
but I think my man Fred says it best.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by ckissick

I keep forgetting to check for them on Craig's List, to replace the '81 I got new while in high school. Just missed this one.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/discovery-bay-1980-vw-scirocco-sold/7365778598.html

Very rare but they do come up. I'm looking at a 2003 GTI for an engine and transmission transplant this weekend.

[DonDavis]

Btw, I'd rather have Speeder's.

[Steve Carlton]

I'm guessing speedy gets $30K for his on BaT.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Just bought a set of headlights on FBMP, the outside lights are proper H4s.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

Just bought a set of headlights on FBMP, the outside lights are proper H4s.

Nice...

[Racerbvd]

Anyone interested in a project?

[ted]

I wonder how much bolt in side bars (and cross bars) reduce side protection?

[island911]

If designed right the bolt in will not reduce side protection. It will only weigh a bit more.

Those pict's remind me of picking up my MK1 from paint, back in the 80's - interior stripped out, no bumpers... My early education on adding lightness. What a change.

[ted]

Originally Posted by island911

If designed right the bolt in will not reduce side protection. It will only weigh a bit more.

I guess the difference is 60+mph.
Those little tabs that hold bolts and the bars together are not crash worthy.
That would hurt like a mother in a side impact when the broken bars slam into you.
Bolt in bar maybe survivable under 100mph weld in bars like Nascar are made to survive a 200mph crash.

No profession racers build race cars with bolt in bars.
So I'd never trust that roll cage.
Change my mind. lol impossible.

[island911]

Yes, of course. That's why aircraft landing gear is always welded in place. Bolting them in is just too dangerous. /sarc

Seriously, just because people design shlt "boltment" doesn't mean that weldment is always the stronger/tougher solution than bolted.

[island911]

Just another thought, NASCAR cars weigh a minimum of 3400_lbs.
That Sirocco won't weigh even half that.

And, like you say, slower speeds...

Doing the math on that...
Energy of the car in motion is = .5xmass x velocity²

-- this means a 3400 lb car doing 200 mph will carry about 6x the energy of a 1600_lb car doing 120_mph

That's the energy that needs to be absorbed in a crash. Big difference.

[ted]

Originally Posted by island911

Yes, of course. That's why aircraft landing gear is always welded in place. Bolting them in is just too dangerous. /sarc

Link? to airplanes crashing at 200 and retractable landing gear survived.

Best bolt in landing gear ever carrier based Navy/Marine jets.

[ted]

Originally Posted by island911

That's the energy that needs to be absorbed in a crash. Big difference.

I think your spit balling is close.
But did you account for Nascar crush zones around the track?
This green car is more likely to hit a tree or a hillside (good).

[island911]

Originally Posted by ted

I think your spit balling is close.
But did you account for Nascar crush zones around the track?
This green car is more likely to hit a tree or a hillside (good).

No, of course not. That gets into Exorbitant Fee category.

I was only responding to the question of strong enough to survive comparison considerations.

And if that Sirocco slams driver's-side sideways @120mph into an old-growth oak tree, I expect that the driver will not survive, even if the cage holds.