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Por_sha911 07-11-2022 06:32 PM

NYC explains what to do after a nuclear explosion
 
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New York City launched a public service announcement Monday over what to do after a nuclear weapon incident, despite the low likelihood of such a catastrophic event occurring in America's largest city.

The 1.5-minute PSA outlines three steps New Yorkers can take to mitigate the threats of nuclear exposure.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-psa-nuclear-attack-fallout

911_Dude 07-11-2022 07:55 PM

Interesting. Its as if Vladimir is up to something....

IROC 07-12-2022 03:19 AM

Pretty good advice. There's not much you can do about the radiation, but mitigating the contamination is the right thing to do. I'm the chairman of the "Radiation Safety Committee" here at work, so I deal with this every day. SmileWavy

masraum 07-12-2022 04:40 AM

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cabmandone 07-12-2022 04:43 AM

Nowhere on that list do I see "Put your head between your knees and kiss your sweet a.. goodbye"

Now, my plan is foolproof! In the event where the nukes fly I'm gonna run outside and yell at the sky "come get some beechayz" I figure I'd rather go out ins a blaze of glory.
I might even decide to burn every round of 9mm I have shooting at the sky! "He went down shootin" And I'd have Bon Jovi rockin on my earbuds!

flatbutt 07-12-2022 04:46 AM

I live near enough to Picatinny Arsenal that I wouldn't have enough time to say "What th..."

porsche tech 07-12-2022 04:49 AM

Does a mask help?

cabmandone 07-12-2022 04:51 AM

What if you're the naked cowboy? Do you just get in the shower and wash off? Too many loose ends in this plan.

LEAKYSEALS951 07-12-2022 04:51 AM

Top of Steinway tower would be a safe place to go.

masraum 07-12-2022 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmandone (Post 11740925)
Nowhere on that list do I see "Put your head between your knees and kiss your sweet a.. goodbye"

I think that's a big miss.

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Now, my plan is foolproof! In the event where the nukes fly I'm gonna run outside and yell at the sky "come get some beechayz" I figure I'd rather go out ins a blaze of glory.
I might even decide to burn every round of 9mm I have shooting at the sky! "He went down shootin" And I'd have Bon Jovi rockin on my earbuds!
Before I finished reading, I was going to suggest you need a 1911 to shoot at the nukes as they are incoming.

IROC 07-12-2022 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmandone (Post 11740925)
Nowhere on that list do I see "Put your head between your knees and kiss your sweet a.. goodbye"

Now, my plan is foolproof! In the event where the nukes fly I'm gonna run outside and yell at the sky "come get some beechayz" I figure I'd rather go out ins a blaze of glory.
I might even decide to burn every round of 9mm I have shooting at the sky! "He went down shootin" And I'd have Bon Jovi rockin on my earbuds!

The problem is that unless you are really close to the blast, your "blaze of glory" is going to be a slow, painful death or maybe just losing some hair. Even massive doses of radiation don't kill you right away. You suffer.

We've had some electrical safety violations/events here at work lately and in the spirit of "safety messages", etc., our management sent out a story about the Demon Core. Louis Slotin worked here for awhile...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

Chocaholic 07-12-2022 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche tech (Post 11740931)
Does a mask help?

Snort!

KFC911 07-12-2022 05:42 AM

I'm just gonna have some pie ... mebbe some ice cream too.... but definitely some pie. What else can ya do ....

Cake :)?

dafischer 07-12-2022 06:52 AM

Bright side is that you won't need a night light anymore.

LEAKYSEALS951 07-12-2022 06:58 AM

4.When Snake Plissken shows up- Go with him.
5. Stay away from "The Duke"

Arizona_928 07-12-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11740986)
I'm just gonna have some pie ... mebbe some ice cream too.... but definitely some pie. What else can ya do ....

Cake :)?

Yellow cake sounds good tbh

Por_sha911 07-12-2022 09:06 AM

Back in the early 60's, we (young elementary school children) were taught how to react to a nuclear attack. Upon hearing the siren we were to either get under our desk or, go into the hallway and put our face to the wall and cover each side of our face.
I also remember later (late 60's or early 70's?) we were taught that you could get fresh water from your toilet tank (no, not the bowl). This was true but that isn't going to help much when your neighborhood is now a radioactive wasteland.

IMO the govt knew that this would have zero protection or survival but, it was a great way to keep from having public hysteria over the fear of impending nuclear attack.

Seems like NYC thinks the public needs another dose of propaganda to control the masses.

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Synchro Joe 07-12-2022 12:58 PM

Nukes
 
I'll have a double shot of that Plutonium-gallium with a water back please!
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cabmandone 07-12-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IROC (Post 11740971)
The problem is that unless you are really close to the blast, your "blaze of glory" is going to be a slow, painful death or maybe just losing some hair. Even massive doses of radiation don't kill you right away. You suffer.

OR! I become significantly more awesome with the ability to run really fast like the Flash, turn green and muscular like the Hulk and shoot webs like Spider Man! I'd be the Spiflahulman... I'd be a household name.

KFC911 07-12-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro Joe (Post 11741436)

Y'all won't be able to say I'm FOS anymore :D!

island911 07-12-2022 03:06 PM

NYC - they know what it's like to have their govt defense systems fail.

Are they being told to expect another defense systems failure?

Or is this just more "Fear the Pooty Rooski" of the day?

mjohnson 07-17-2022 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IROC (Post 11740971)
The problem is that unless you are really close to the blast, your "blaze of glory" is going to be a slow, painful death or maybe just losing some hair. Even massive doses of radiation don't kill you right away. You suffer.

We've had some electrical safety violations/events here at work lately and in the spirit of "safety messages", etc., our management sent out a story about the Demon Core. Louis Slotin worked here for awhile...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

We're actually putting up some monuments/signs/plaques here in Los Alamos for the workers who paid the price for the rest of the community to say "Huh, I guess we shouldn't do that..." Particularly with explosives we've learned more than a few things.

The Slotin building is part of the Manhattan Project National Historic Park - though most can't see it without permission and probably a clearance. Someday we'll get them open to the public.

On effects - truly, hiding indoors for a few days or a week works really well. Hunker down and let those really hot fission products burn off and for many it's survivable as long as you make it through the blast (flying things to put holes in you) and the fires (duh).

IDK if Glasstone's Effects of Nuclear Weapons is open source yet but you can get it in paperback from lots of places. It's very interesting, particularly as to how it explains scaling. (hint, 10x more yield is not 10x as bad)

mjohnson 07-17-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro Joe (Post 11741436)
I'll have a double shot of that Plutonium-gallium with a water back please!

Might be worth pursuing! Dudes that got dosed (occupational exposure, not bombing victim) half a century or more ago lived longer and more healthy lives than the average USAnian.

(that they were highly educated, had incredible health care for their time, and were highly paid had nothing to do with it of course - it was obviously thanks to their membership in the IPPu club)

[hint, the first "P" relates to urine]

bob deluke 07-18-2022 07:04 AM

Went to Navy nuke weps school in Los Alamos NM, years ago. Instructor told us in the event of a nuke war, especially an air drop weapon, just put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. I was on a carrier, and we were told if there ever was a nuke attack, our ship might last about 45 minutes before being vaporized.

mjohnson 07-18-2022 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bob deluke (Post 11746244)
Went to Navy nuke weps school in Los Alamos NM, years ago. Instructor told us in the event of a nuke war, especially an air drop weapon, just put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. I was on a carrier, and we were told if there ever was a nuke attack, our ship might last about 45 minutes before being vaporized.

Yep. In most simulated scenarios the carriers are gone really, really soon. 45 min might be optimistic. It's the subs that will save us and hopefully scare the rest so that we can have at least a few more decades of global "peace".

GH85Carrera 07-18-2022 01:25 PM

I just imagine every disaster movie. zombie movie and alien attack movie coming true after a nuke hits any city. What is not obliterated and stayed safe will be overrun buy the mobs. Unless the national guard and every police officer remains on duty it will be chaos. There will be no stores to go to, so whatever food and water you have will be all you get for a while. Electricity and all utilities will be no more.

NYC is going to be one vast mob with that huge population. I just hope we pound any country into a glass wasteland that attacks us.

BK911 07-18-2022 02:32 PM

Just wrap some of this special rope around you. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1658183403.jpg

mjohnson 07-18-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 11746709)
Just wrap some of this special rope around you...

Yellow tape. That's what we used. Lotsa yellow tape...

dw1 07-18-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11740929)
I live near enough to Picatinny Arsenal that I wouldn't have enough time to say "What th..."

That assumes the ARDEC facility would be a target - not likely, especially with NYC (US financial center) and Lakehurst-Dix-McGuire relatively nearby. After all, Picatinny is a research, development and testing facility.

I'm slightly under 3 miles from Picatinny's main gate, and even worked there as a technical contractor for a short time many years ago.

Back to the main topic: If NYC is hit, IMHO there are really (2) scenarios:

1. A terrorist low-yield or "dirty" bomb where the effects are mostly localized (think another 9/11) and it is the aftermath/reaction that would be of the most concern to the overall general public.

2. A "classic" cold war kind of major high-yield strike, for which the only action (if you lived long enough) is to kiss one's a** goodbye.

I find that NYC bringing this up as a PSA at this time as particularly stupid, but expecting logical actions from a government bureaucracy is usually a bit too much to hope for.

Por_sha911 07-18-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11746658)
There will be no stores to go to...NYC is going to be one vast mob with that huge population.

Sounds like an average day in some places on the left coast today.

Alan A 07-18-2022 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 11746921)
Sounds like an average day in some places on the left coast today.

And in NY. It’s not getting better there…

Scott R 07-18-2022 07:43 PM

After looking at the PSA you're better off playing Fallout 3 on xbox for better information.

IROC 07-19-2022 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 11746709)
Just wrap some of this special rope around you. :D

Yep. All RCTs know that magenta and yellow rope stops gamma radiation. On one side is "bad" and on the other side you're fine. SmileWavy

GH85Carrera 07-19-2022 07:45 AM

Most all the cops have families, and they are going to go home to be with their family, and try to protect themselves and family. Same for firemen and ambulance drivers. Some will try to do their job, but most will want to protect their own families first. Everyone understands why.

So you are on your own. If you are a prepper, you will be ready, but the invading hordes wanting your shelter and food and water will be difficult if not impossible to stop. Imagine a motorcycle gang on steroids, with nothing to loose and everything to gain by taking your stuff.

Until the Army gets there with troops and declares martial law will there be any civilization. If the bomb was just a terrorist, and a single attack, the rest of the country will come to help. In an all out war, the apocalypses has arrived.

masraum 07-19-2022 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmandone (Post 11741462)
OR! I become significantly more awesome with the ability to run really fast like the Flash, turn green and muscular like the Hulk and shoot webs like Spider Man! I'd be the Spiflahulman... I'd be a household name.

You need a new PR guy, and to do some brain storming on a new name. Spiflahulman is NEVER going to be a household name. You'd be better off calling yourself "Kleenex", not that I'm suggesting that.


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