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stevej37 08-04-2022 04:34 PM

We can be sure that the FAA and others will be looking into the relationship between the two pilots.

fanaudical 08-04-2022 07:35 PM

My understanding is that the gear on that plane is not retractable - it's a fixed gear aircraft.

Not sure what there would be to see with respect to gear condition from the rear ramp. Maybe looking out one of the front side doors and wasn't prepared for the slipstream?

greglepore 08-17-2022 04:30 AM

NTSB has released prelim report:
https://www.flyingmag.com/ntsb-preliminary-report-sheds-light-on-co-pilot-mid-air-departure/?fbclid=IwAR1hV37WmAVoAzeL1ovWF8dfhdEKnqTz8iwDOptT 4jdcZEhBG4XJmRV00a0

masraum 08-17-2022 05:05 AM

Weird, sounds like the kid jumped.

stevej37 08-17-2022 05:17 AM

If he couldn't handle that type of pressure....he surely didn't qualify to be a pilot.

Seahawk 08-17-2022 05:20 AM

Wow. Thanks for the update.

911 Rod 08-17-2022 08:19 AM

Wow. Full blown wackadoodle. I don't think we wanted him flying a plane.

pavulon 08-17-2022 08:48 AM

So, the plane was damaged in his attempted landing and the guy panics by jumping out of the plane as it diverts to a better-equipped airport. Everyone's threshold is different and he seems to have gone straight to hopelessly hopeless for reasons we'll probably never know.

Suicides have been long known to occasionally be very impulsive and this tragically proves that notion again.

stevej37 08-17-2022 11:40 AM

I'm due to take four flights in the next few weeks. If I see the pilot walking down the aisle....I'll know we are in big trouble. :eek:

Tobra 08-17-2022 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11773536)
Wow. Full blown wackadoodle. I don't think we wanted him flying a plane.

I don't think this is all that fair.

You never know what baggage people are carrying, or what might make them snap.

Seahawk 08-17-2022 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11773574)
Everyone's threshold is different and he seems to have gone straight to hopelessly hopeless for reasons we'll probably never know.

Suicides have long known to occasionally be very impulsive and this tragically proves that notion again.

That is a really fine way of putting it. That, and he have one side of the story, the PIC's.

I doubt they record internal comms on that aircraft. If they do, I am sure the report is accurate.

Still. Wow.

stevej37 08-17-2022 01:22 PM

I would never do that at that low altitude. I would want to enjoy the view for longer than 30 seconds. :)

A930Rocket 08-17-2022 01:48 PM

I was wondering if he felt bad from the hard landing and damage to the aircraft. I guess he felt there was no other way out, except the aft ramp.

greglepore 08-17-2022 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11773824)
That is a really fine way of putting it. That, and he have one side of the story, the PIC's.

I doubt they record internal comms on that aircraft. If they do, I am sure the report is accurate.

Still. Wow.

Yeah. Or it is possible that the combo of the stress and the turbulence made him ill, and he exercised poor judgement.

masraum 08-17-2022 02:56 PM

The only other thing that makes any sense to me is that he thought for some reason he could sit back there, and fell. But based on the report, it sounds like he snapped.

911 Rod 08-18-2022 05:21 AM

Maybe he just watched the D.B. Cooper documentary on Netflix? :rolleyes:


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