Are you still partial to Porsches?

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Actually I think we are past peak ICE.
That occurred a few years back.
I think many makers, like BMW for instance, stopped any real development of ICE engines a while ago. Current BMW engines are basically time bombs cobbled together with small displacement and turbos.
And I get it, why engage in multi year multi billion engine programs for something that will be gone soon. Mercedes, for example, says their goal is to be all electric by 2030. That’s not far away,

yup, i think all of this is true.

[McLovin]

The ICE in the ICU on life support

[Les Paul]

We’ve had the 930 for 37 years. Done three major engine and suspension upgrades over the years. Currently in the shop going to efi and a new AC. We’ve had the 356 for 31 years. Went the semi outlaw look before it was a thing. Ran one of the Maestros bullet proof creations for 27 years. Drove it all over the country. My wife and kids prefer it over the 930. They grew up with both cars and Sunday drives in north Texas with its wide open winding roads few people even know about.

Now in Naples Florida which is a different world and traffic is pathetic if you’re out at the wrong times. 356 is now in the process of getting the wickedly wonderful Wilhoit 2.2 and an AC. Looking forward to exploring the back roads of central Florida and up the coast and finally making it up to Maine. We will have both till I’m gone. They have always been a big part of the family. I see all the newest latest greatest Porsches here every day. Have seen one 356 on the road and not one 930. We are going to change that.

[Bill Douglas]

There have been three motor vehicles that I have really loved, my Triumph 650, a Mk1 Ford Escort and the 911. I love the 911 more than the others so I'm sure not selling this one. I think I've owned it 28 years now.

[cassisrot]

There is no substitute

[GH85Carrera]

I have owned at least one Porsche of some sort non stop since 1974.

Right now I own two. So, yea, there is no substitute.

[speeder]

Definitely still love them, I just value them the same as I did 20 years ago, with maybe mild increases for inflation. A nice 3.2 Carrera coupe is about $25k worth of fun...all of the other $$ is just gay collectors running up the price of everything.

So...kind of lost interest. So many other machines out there.

[matthewb0051]

^^^^^^^^^^^

That sums it up perfectly Denis

I recall a point on one of the car shows on Velocity, the main guy saying, "I don't know anything about Porsche" saying it in one syllable. Then when the market started heating up he was all in and knew everything.

True enthusiasts need not apply now.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

.....But of course, I enjoy the BS here...

I come here to read about Moosetangs and Pool ... but primarily to meet wimmins

[gregpark]

I still have my 911 but hardly drive it anymore. It's worth a pretty penny now and I'm afraid to drive as it should be driven. I get my ya yas out in my WRX that has more power and handles great. The 911 will sit for a couple of months and I start thinking of selling it, then I drive it and and say "I'm never selling this car". Happens every time. A WRX is not a 911.

[craigster59]

I still have the '83 SC Cab. The only mods are pop off valve, oil tension collars and a SloDave shift knob.

I'm either a semi purist or a lazy a-hole too cheap to do any "hot rod" mods.

[rfuerst911sc]

Yep I still have the passion but moved on from air cooled to water cooled . My current stable is a 1999 996 C4 with 3.8 FSI engine and a 2002 Boxster S with 3.6 FSI engine . Love them both .

[aschen]

yep had my 930 well over half my life at this point, currently shopping for a cayman of some flavor for my second.

I will admit that most modern porsches don't do alot for me. Anything over 3200lbs that doesn't come with 3 pedals doesn't really float my boat.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Actually I think we are past peak ICE.
That occurred a few years back.

Peaked at the Porsche GT


I am still partial to Porsches. The oil cooled ones, not the water pumpers though.


I know they are great cars, but the new ones do not speak to me the same way, if that makes any sense.

No doubt I would change my tune if a 3.8 swapped Cayman fell in my lap.

[911boost]

Got my first 911 in 2002, an '86 cab. Loved that car until it started drinking oil due to worn valve guides and had a very young child, so decided to be an adult and got a new WRX. That lasted for 3 years and couldn't stand not having a 911, so got the '92 911 Turbo and drove it fairly often and wrenched on it often as well.

Sold it in '12 before they sky rocketed in price to buy a house after my divorce. My son is still pissed and says we could have lived in it!

Went a few years without one and then got a 2003 996TT creampuff with 30,000 miles in '14 and that was a great highway car, a true GT.

Got a little bored with it and this time got lucky picking up a 997.2 GT3RS, the last of the 3 pedal RS's and before they got all crazy looking. It was also before they went crazy price wise....

Still have it and still drive the crap out of it.

Still like the brand.

[WPOZZZ]

After my family passed early this year, I got off my ass and got the widebody Carrera to the mechanic and it was diagnosed as a blown motor. Well, I dumped that car and made some money on it. Sold the 77 930 a couple months ago. First replacement was a Macan after selling the widebody. Then I picked up a 997.1 6 spd a coupe weeks ago. I am really enjoying the 997. The Macan is great, but there is no substitute for a stick.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by KC911

I come here to read about Moosetangs and Pool ... but primarily to meet wimmins

Meh! I've heard you can barely make a 2 ball run, and can't conrol the rock at all.

Moostangs? Gawd, please don't tell me I've done it again! Just had an offer for my '09 Bullitt model for more than it's sticker price. Perhaps because of inflation & supply shortage, but also perhaps because of the way later models have been nannied up? It's sort of an analog car in a digital age. I'm hanging on to it...mainly because of it's lack of a TV screen on the dash.

Wimmins? Can't help ya there. They do show here from time to time, but if I'm not mistaken the ones currently around are married.

[p911dad]

We've had and enjoyed 3 911's long term, an SC Targa, a Carrera coupe and now a 993 Cabrio. I love the 993 best as it has the traditional 911 feel, sounds and even better handling, along with great AC (as compared with the SC or the Carrera).
My own personal view is the ICE era is still with us, past peak but will be for many years to come, just from the sheer numbers and extensive infrastructure. The electrics are coming along, but really only on the coasts and certain wealthy areas.

[Chocaholic]

Sold my last Porsche (87 Targa) 4 years ago…wish I’d waited…value has more than doubled since then. Prices have pushed them out of the “fun” range unfortunately.

My daily driver is a 27 year old Mercedes e320 cab. Prices are reasonable (but climbing) and the quality is impressive to this day.

[jshape]

I’ve owned two Porsches - a 912E (strange, but enjoyable, experience) and a ‘79 911 SC 79 Targa that I restored, then happily drove for five years and then sold. I still appreciate the brand but have migrated to having comfortable, newer, easily repaired (if even needed), and larger SUVs, i.e., a Lincoln Nautilus, a Lincoln MKC (wife’s car) and a ‘98 Jeep Wrangler that is my cottage car. My interest in performance has waned as my interest in comfort and reliability have increased. And I have almost zero interest in wrenching on anything other than minor tweaks on my Jeep. I considered a Cayenne but felt that the cost of a new one was too high and I didn’t want to deal with the electrical nightmares that used cars, especially German ones, seem to have. The Macan was nice but too small for me - it would have been great for my wife, but she didn’t like it. I’ve thought about a Panamera but I feel it’s too small to haul stuff back and forth between my home and cottage.

It’s really kind of sad that my interest in the classic/performance car hobby has gone the way of anything analog, especially since I still work in the automotive industry and my Great Grandfather actually built the first Packard automobile for the Packard bros. in Warren, OH. I started out at age 10 restoring 1920’s and 1930’s Packards and Buicks with my Dad and Grandad, graduated to a ‘56 Chevy in high school that I modified extensively, worked on a pit crew campaigning a friend’s 1962 Chevy 409 at drag strips in Ohio and Pennsylvania, then an Olds 442, a Mazda RX7, a series of MGBs that I restored for my kids, a 300Z, a BMW 540, then the Porsches, 3 Jeeps and a MB SL500 - all of which are now gone (except the Jeep).

Now I’d rather spend my extensive post retirement time playing golf, fishing, traveling, and just hanging out with my kids and grand kids than wrenching on cars.