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Racerbvd 11-29-2022 03:28 PM

I have a few friends who absolutely excell at welding, a perfect row of dimes, super straight lines, can sign their names on aluminum much better than I can write.

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A930Rocket 11-29-2022 06:02 PM

I’m in the process of adding metal flares to my 330. Before I even start welding there’s gonna be a lot of trial and error fitting everything up.

Last time I did welding, I practice on some scraps and it worked well but then when I went to weld, I had a difficult time with burning holes, not enough penetration or more importantly, building the weld up instead of stopping and trying again after grinding. This time I’m going to concentrate on small welds back-and-forth on the flare.


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zakthor 11-29-2022 06:44 PM

I dunno... a lot of advice in this thread is about proper structural welding. But bodywork is a totally different deal. With bodywork you're going to weld through burning paint with dynamat still stuck to the back of the panel, use the gas purge to keep fires from starting.

Most important tip anyone ever gave me for bodywork was: put down a tack, then go work elsewhere until the area is warm to the touch. Go real slow and it won't warp.

I have some old canadian land cruisers that sprout rust every so often.

Here is my door panel before and after.

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sc_rufctr 11-29-2022 10:05 PM

Mostly basic stick welding. I bought a gasless MIG welder a few years ago but I've barely use it.

I've been thinking about TIG but I don't have a project for it yet.

Nickshu 11-30-2022 03:43 AM

Land rover frame welding content from last week's episode:

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matthewb0051 11-30-2022 09:58 AM

^^^^
I had been watching that but lost track of it for whatever reason. Thanks

wdfifteen 11-30-2022 10:13 AM

Welding takes practice, and I'm out of practice.
After botching a few jobs I learned to get some scrap out and brush up on my technique before trying the actual job.
I learned to gas weld in 1969 so I could weld a new floor in my first Porsche. I haven't used the torches for welding since and I'm not sure I could do it anymore. One of my summer jobs in college was production welding trailers together with a MillerMatic mig welder. I laid down miles of beads and got pretty good, but I still have to brush up before I do a real welding job.

TimT 11-30-2022 02:47 PM

Quote:

But bodywork is a totally different deal.
Not really, I've done quite a bit of rust repairs/restorations on car, trucks, trailers....buildings, bridges, etc...

Same principles apply..... clean base metal, and good fit...

For sheet metal, I use punches , crimpers, flangers, even rivets to fit up the pieces before I even strike an arc.. (grind the rivets off and rosette weld, metal finish after your repair is done )

Door jamb repair of '69 911

This was actually rocker replacement. jack point replacement, kidney (fender support), and door jamb.... all sheet metal.. many rosette welds many seam welds..

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Bent a piece of sheet metal on a brake

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Repair piece welded in

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Shrink and stretch..

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Shrink and stretch.

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Rosette welds on flange.. you can see on the kidney I did seam welding.... get your settings right and good fit up and move...



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Almost done... the rear quarters on this car were Dzused on so I just made the flange a bit longer

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bugstrider 11-30-2022 09:32 PM

I’ve purchased a Mig n Tig with the intent of teaching myself for 912 repairs I need to make. Local CC welding classes fill up in hours, so I haven’t been able to re-roll in a class.

I found a great YouTube channel on welding and I like it so much, I’ve purchased some of his series. All his videos are posted on his channel

“Welding Tips n Tricks”


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bugstrider 11-30-2022 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TimT (Post 11860970)
Not really, I've done quite a bit of rust repairs/restorations on car, trucks, trailers....buildings, bridges, etc...

Same principles apply..... clean base metal, and good fit...

For sheet metal, I use punches , crimpers, flangers, even rivets to fit up the pieces before I even strike an arc.. (grind the rivets off and rosette weld, metal finish after your repair is done )

Door jamb repair of '69 911

This was actually rocker replacement. jack point replacement, kidney (fender support), and door jamb.... all sheet metal.. many rosette welds many seam welds..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851059.jpg

Bent a piece of sheet metal on a brake

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851059.JPG

Repair piece welded in

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851059.JPG

Shrink and stretch..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851059.JPG

Shrink and stretch.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851059.JPG

Rosette welds on flange.. you can see on the kidney I did seam welding.... get your settings right and good fit up and move...



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851890.JPG

Almost done... the rear quarters on this car were Dzused on so I just made the flange a bit longer

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669851059.JPG


That looks great!!!!!!


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Daves911L 12-02-2022 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bugstrider (Post 11861259)
I’ve purchased a Mig n Tig with the intent of teaching myself for 912 repairs I need to make.

I started welding 22 years ago, after taking a356 to a well regarded restoration shop. I started looking carefully at the work and realized it was garbage. Figured I couldn’t do any worse. Cut the car apart. Bought myself a mig , and started learning by doing. I wouldn’t rate that first job too highly, but honestly it came out ok. Considerably better than the “expert”.

On my next project I decided I wanted cleaner work, less brittle welds, and much less grinding. I went out and bought a TIG. Set it up, and called s good friend who I knew was a very accomplished TIG welder to show me how to use it. He showed up that afternoon with a couple of gas bottles and a very small oxyacetylene torch. He said he wouldn’t waste his time trying to teach me the TIG until I could weld sheet metal with a torch. Best advice welding advice I ever got. Learned with the torch to read the metal, watch what has happening as the metal flowed together, control heat with the torch and the rod, move the puddle around, etc. truly welding. You really can’t see any of that stuff with a MIG.

Eventually I got pretty comfortable with the torch, and moved on to the TIG. I use it for 90% of my welding now. The other 10% I do with the gas torch, because it’s fun, helps my TIG welding be better, and just occasionally it’s the only tool for the job. Haven’t touched the MIg in 15 years.

A930Rocket 12-02-2022 07:43 AM

When welding two pieces of sheet metal, a good ground is obvious but would it hurt to put a ground clamp on both pieces to make sure it’s grounded properly?

In my case, I’m trying to ground sheet metal flares to my car. I can put the ground clamp on the flare but what about the car? Would it hurt to make a jumper from the ground clamp to the car?

908/930 12-02-2022 08:31 AM

No need to put a ground on both A930Rocket, usually if they are clamped together that covers it, or once the puddle touches.

rcooled 12-02-2022 10:22 AM

How not to do it...

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zakthor 12-02-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11862514)
When welding two pieces of sheet metal, a good ground is obvious but would it hurt to put a ground clamp on both pieces to make sure it’s grounded properly?

In my case, I’m trying to ground sheet metal flares to my car. I can put the ground clamp on the flare but what about the car? Would it hurt to make a jumper from the ground clamp to the car?

I'd think you'd just want the ground clamp on the car anyways. The arc you make will be to the grounded piece, the puddle will instantly connect the new metal to the car.

Do some practice welds before actually welding on your car. The puddle needs space to expand so leave a gap for puddle to fill.

billybek 12-02-2022 06:44 PM

I am not the weldor
I am the weldor's son.
I will do the welding
until the weldor comes.

I can hold my own with a stick welder but need to do some work with the mig. Going to try tig welding in the near future.

Pazuzu 12-02-2022 08:21 PM

I have done basic stick and mig, but that was 20 years ago. I could tack the hell out of two things!

Now, at work, I have access to stick, mig, tig, aluminum welding, stud welding, rosette welding, brazing and every type of metal forming/cutting/bending machine there is.

I also have access to 3 trained professional welders, so I'll let them do it. :)

Bill Douglas 12-02-2022 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 11863129)

I also have access to 3 trained professional welders, so I'll let them do it. :)

Professionals are good...

I bought a SC muffler from a fellow Pelicanite and it was too big for the cheap rate box so he cut the tail pipe off. A guy I worked with was a food grade welder and he stainless steel welded the tailpipe back on. I really had trouble finding the weld it was so perfect.


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