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WPOZZZ 01-04-2023 02:06 PM

What oil should I use?
 
Can't choose the oil to use when making stir fry. I like sesame oil or chili oil, but wha about olive, grapeseed, avocado or coconut oils?

pwd72s 01-04-2023 02:07 PM

Which one works best for scraping stir fried kale out of the pan and into the trash can?

stevej37 01-04-2023 02:08 PM

Don't know about stir fry...but I use coconut oil every morning for hash browns.
The taste is better than any other oil..imo

Here...it comes solid in a plastic container.

Bill Douglas 01-04-2023 02:11 PM

20W-50

Sorry, wrong thread.

I use rice bran oil for anything that gets very hot like a stir fry. It doesn't burn.

flatbutt 01-04-2023 02:19 PM

I know for certain that olive oil is not good for stir frying as the high heat damages most of its' healthy bits.

In general the oil with the higher smoke point is better for stir frying.

https://www.optimizenutrition.ca/blog/healthiest-cooking-oil-comparison-chart-with-smoke-points-and-omega-3-fatty-acid-ratios/#:~:text=Healthiest%20Cooking%20Oil%20Comparison%2 0Chart%20with%20Smoke%20Points,%20%2083%3A1%20%202 8%20more%20rows%20

berettafan 01-04-2023 02:26 PM

well it won't be good fried rice or stir fry without at least SOME sesame oil. I would normally start with canola oil and add sesame in part way for flavor.

Bill Douglas 01-04-2023 03:17 PM

I learnt a new trick on Christmas day. A friend was cooking abalone fritters and put rice bran oil in the pan. Got it pretty hot then added butter. He said the rice bran stops the butter from burning.

Abalone fritters were good!

masraum 01-04-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11888370)
Which one works best for scraping stir fried kale out of the pan and into the trash can?

LOL! I've seen that meme, hilarious.
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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11888373)
Don't know about stir fry...but I use coconut oil every morning for hash browns.
The taste is better than any other oil..imo

Here...it comes solid in a plastic container.

Coconut oil is good, but does impart a flavor, and I'm not sure that flavor is good for everything.
Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11888386)
I know for certain that olive oil is not good for stir frying as the high heat damages most of its' healthy bits.

In general the oil with the higher smoke point is better for stir frying.

https://www.optimizenutrition.ca/blog/healthiest-cooking-oil-comparison-chart-with-smoke-points-and-omega-3-fatty-acid-ratios/#:~:text=Healthiest%20Cooking%20Oil%20Comparison%2 0Chart%20with%20Smoke%20Points,%20%2083%3A1%20%202 8%20more%20rows%20

Yes, and no. I agree that most (99%) of olive oil (mostly EVOO) is bad for high heat applications, because the heat adversely affects something in the oil and actually makes it bad for you. I have read that you can get "light" meaning light colored which is heavily filtered and refined olive oil that is fine for high heat applications. But the missus and I have looked for it in the past, and it's not easy to find.
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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 11888398)
well it won't be good fried rice or stir fry without at least SOME sesame oil. I would normally start with canola oil and add sesame in part way for flavor.

Exactly, sesame is, IMO, more about adding flavor than using in bulk, but a little (not sure if added at the beginning or end) would be good in a stir fry.

I think for stir fry, I'd stick with something high heat, and if possible, something that is commonly used in Asia for stir fry. I think that's often peanut oil, soybean oil, and vegetable oil. I think that grape seed which has a high smoke point would also be good. Personally I'd probably go with peanut or grape seed.

stevej37 01-04-2023 03:20 PM

Where do you get rice bran oil?
Never seen it here.

Bill Douglas 01-04-2023 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11888447)
Where do you get rice bran oil?
Never seen it here.

Oh, I just get it at the supermarket. Alfa One brand.

Here it is https://www.amazon.com/Alfa-One-Rice-Bran-Oil/dp/B00BHFE8KK

asphaltgambler 01-04-2023 04:24 PM

Peanut oil, add a little sesame oil for flavor.

flatbutt 01-04-2023 04:43 PM

Man you must need to squeeze A LOT of rice bran to get oil out of it.

flatbutt 01-04-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11888446)

Yes, and no. I agree that most (99%) of olive oil (mostly EVOO) is bad for high heat applications, because the heat adversely affects something in the oil and actually makes it bad for you. I have read that you can get "light" meaning light colored which is heavily filtered and refined olive oil that is fine for high heat applications. But the missus and I have looked for it in the past, and it's not easy to find.
.

There is a low acid version that's ok for high heat cooking. I rarely use high heat for cooking so EVO usually suffices for me.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-04-2023 04:46 PM

Both grapeseed and peanut oils have very smoke points. Grapeseed is the most neutral of all oils.

I also use tallow, pure beef fat. I got some lard once and it was bad and haven't been able to go back.

Just made some chili oil tonight, for drizzling and dipping.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1672883058.jpg

Gogar 01-04-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by asphaltgambler (Post 11888517)
Peanut oil, add a little sesame oil for flavor.

YES this. Peanut oil hot as hell, sesame is only for taste at the end.

cstreit 01-04-2023 05:10 PM

Avocado oil I think has the highest smoke point? I use it to season my cast iron.

No flavor at all that I can tell.

Bill Douglas 01-04-2023 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11888531)
Man you must need to squeeze A LOT of rice bran to get oil out of it.

Yep. Must be a lot of people in China squeezing rice all day.

masraum 01-04-2023 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 11888557)
Avocado oil I think has the highest smoke point? I use it to season my cast iron.

No flavor at all that I can tell.

I was thinking that was the case for Avo oil, and I've seen it in a store, but I haven't ever used it.

That does seem to be the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Smoke_point_of_cooking_oils

juanbenae 01-04-2023 07:15 PM

i look to oils that don't burn the pee slit.

cstreit 01-04-2023 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 11888616)
i look to oils that don't burn the pee slit.

Lol You are so wrong dude.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-05-2023 03:32 AM

A quick note on smoke point, I think time must be a factor in burning oil. I had my wok up to 650F the other day, spooned in a little semi-sold tallow which melted instantly, let it get up to shimmering temp, a little smoke and then some beaten eggs, quick stir and out of the wok. Repeat for tofu and veggies. Definitely not burned in any way. So oils may be elastic in terms of time vs. temp.

Otter74 01-05-2023 07:48 AM

Canola oil, peanut oil or grapeseed oil. Basically, vegetable oil.

masraum 01-05-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11888720)
A quick note on smoke point, I think time must be a factor in burning oil. I had my wok up to 650F the other day, spooned in a little semi-sold tallow which melted instantly, let it get up to shimmering temp, a little smoke and then some beaten eggs, quick stir and out of the wok. Repeat for tofu and veggies. Definitely not burned in any way. So oils may be elastic in terms of time vs. temp.

I have to assume that adding the item to be cooked and stirring probably cools it off enough to keep it from burning so that makes sense. If it was something like a cast iron skillet with a large heat soak it probably would have heated up and burned anyway, but since it was a wok that can cool off quickly by comparison, no issues.

flatbutt 01-05-2023 08:31 AM

I do all of my stove top cooking in cast iron so heat is something I watch carefully. It can go from a simmer to flambeau very quickly.

berettafan 01-05-2023 11:26 AM

Indeed the whole point to a relatively light carbon steel wok is fast response to temp adjustments. if you watch videos of street food with woks you'll see constant temp tweaking.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-05-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11888959)
I have to assume that adding the item to be cooked and stirring probably cools it off enough to keep it from burning so that makes sense. If it was something like a cast iron skillet with a large heat soak it probably would have heated up and burned anyway, but since it was a wok that can cool off quickly by comparison, no issues.

I totally get what you are saying Steve but it's a tiny amount of oil and very large wok, and better, the new stove burners put out some serious BTUs. Boils 2 gallons of water pretty fast, much faster than last cooktop.

The best thing to do is hit it with the Fluke temp gun during the whole process to see what's going on.

All that said I want to get a 100K BTU wok burner as I'm just starting to produce some really authentic stuff.


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