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jyl 01-04-2023 04:37 PM

Suction Oil Change
 
I’m changing the W124’s oil, while I lay on the couch. This has been my pampered life ever since I got a suction oil changer. No more jacking the car up, crawling on the ground like a subhuman, getting hot oil down my arm. Just pull the dipstick, feed the tube in, and go lay on the couch. Of course, it helps to have a car where the oil filter is changed from above :-)

Bill Douglas 01-04-2023 04:41 PM

I've never heard of that before. sounds excellent!

I sure could have used one years ago when I changed the oil on an ATV Quad bike. The sump plug was so corroded and rounded off I tipped the ATV upside down to get the oil out.

flatbutt 01-04-2023 04:57 PM

https://www.amazon.ca/Flo-09644-Fluid-Extraction-System/dp/B00GZKRI3G

Hmmm for a motorcycle too...maybe. I've stripped too many drain plugs so this may be nice to use. Although I'd still need to check the magnet periodically.

fanaudical 01-04-2023 05:07 PM

Which one do you have, John? I need to pick one up for my wife's Q3. (Did the oil change last year with a hand pump - what a PITA...).

jyl 01-04-2023 05:30 PM

I got one that is steel. “Top Sider” https://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_390306_390306

You do have to pump the built-in pump to build the suction, which is easier than pumping up a bike tire, then put the tube in and walk away. I was swayed by it being old school steel. If I were to do it again, I might get one of the electric ones. More couch time!

908/930 01-04-2023 06:10 PM

Those are frequently used on boats with inboard engines, just hard to get all the oil out.

Scott Douglas 01-04-2023 06:25 PM

My son gave me one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7201-Fluid-Evacuator-Plus/dp/B0002SR7TC/ref=asc_df_B0002SR7TC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312104220456&hvpos=&hvnetw= g&hvrand=10309953910587052786&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqm t=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031561&hv targid=pla-569065623780&psc=1

I used his to change the trans fluid on my Honda, but have yet to use it on the crankcase oil change. I still have to get under the car to change the filter. Mine is still sitting in the box unopened.

A930Rocket 01-04-2023 06:39 PM

I have a friend that does all of his with a pump. I still do mine the old-fashioned way.

Tervuren 01-04-2023 06:39 PM

This is the normal way to do it on a 5.0L Jaguar XK(R).

Engine was designed for it.

I would be a little concerned about doing it this way all the time on an engine that wasn't.
What concentrates might be building up down there?

jyl 01-04-2023 07:51 PM

During my education at the University of Youtube, I learned that on the W124, enough oil is left in the pan when drained the normal way, that the suction method isn’t much different.

fanaudical 01-04-2023 07:55 PM

Thanks - the "Topsider" is actually the one I was looking at!

Tervuren 01-05-2023 04:10 AM

I 'spose that is what an oil filter is for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11888624)
During my education at the University of Youtube, I learned that on the W124, enough oil is left in the pan when drained the normal way, that the suction method isn’t much different.


Norm K 01-05-2023 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11888583)
Those are frequently used on boats with inboard engines, just hard to get all the oil out.

That was my concern.

I bought one for use on the boat and Waverunners then figured, what the heck, I'll try it on one of the cars. Knowing what I typically get out of the drain plug, I'd say that any amount the Topsider left behind was negligible - likely measured in teaspoons.

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Chocaholic 01-05-2023 05:30 AM

You may not want to lay on the couch too long. As I recall, the W124 holds 6-ish quarts. Not sure how much your pump holds, but you may want to double check.

vonsmog 01-05-2023 06:20 AM

I have a air operated pump I pulled from a paint spray gun cleaner someone gave me. I place the hose right over the dipstick tube on my Mercedes W123's and it sucks all the oil out in less than a minute. You get more oil out this way than you do pulling the drain plug. And having the oil filter changed from up top. No need to jack up the car!

jyl 01-05-2023 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11888788)
You may not want to lay on the couch too long. As I recall, the W124 holds 6-ish quarts. Not sure how much your pump holds, but you may want to double check.

It holds a ton of oil. 7.5 qt! The Topsider will hold all that and more.

This is so convenient that I'd consider installing a remote oil filter if the stock one isn't accessible from above.

It does take quite a while for the suction to extract all the oil. More couch time! No honey, I can't do the dishes, can't you see I'm changing the oil?

p911dad 01-05-2023 06:30 AM

I wish I could do that with the 911, but not recommended because of the complication of the oil tank and separate crankcase drain.

Chocaholic 01-05-2023 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11888851)
It holds a ton of oil. 7.5 qt! The Topsider will hold all that and more.

This is so convenient that I'd consider installing a remote oil filter if the stock one isn't accessible from above.

It does take quite a while for the suction to extract all the oil. More couch time! No honey, I can't do the dishes, can't you see I'm changing the oil?

Which W124 do you have? I have a 95 E320 Cab (A124) as my daily driver.

techman1 01-05-2023 07:17 AM

The extraction has another plus.

You can get the oil really hot, and suck it out with minimal chance of getting burnt.

This is also a bonus, as suspended particles come out before they have a chance to settle .

911 Rod 01-05-2023 08:26 AM

With my luck the tube would get stuck in the filler tube.


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