Why don't threads linger here longer after moving to PARF?
 

Just curious .... no complaints. They seem to stay for just a short while .... then,

Poof .... Gone!

edited: Oops .... I meant to post this in OT ;)

Did you mean why isn't there a redirect for long in OT after a thread moves to PARF?

When a thread is moved the moderator can leave no redirect, leave a permanent one, or set the "lifespan" of the redirect from a day to a year. So it depends on the mod. I moved this one from PARF to OT with a redirect that will expire in 24 hours for example. (For science sake).

We don't get to move threads OUT of PARF very often - felt strange. :D

Thanks Chris! That explains it nicely. I normally don't visit PARF except to follow threads that get moved over and usually do so via the redirect.... when it disappears, I often forget about them completely .... CRS :).

No biggie ... I was just curious how it worked.

I hate it when stuff gets moved to PARF.

I have not engaged in a PARF thread in 6+ years but it may not seem that way when I participate in something that was in OT but then gets moved.

You're really just baiting to move this back to PARF aren't you? :D

"Inflation, Buddhists, Prime Ministers, Illuminati! amiright?"

A better question is why do people that do not post in PARF (and are the most critical of PARF), start/make so many political threads/posts (advancing their political position) in OT? Do they believe that only those that disagree with them should be relegated to PARF or are they just not that self-aware?

HA! ^ fint FTW.

Dolores said it best.......

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What a voice! She is gone but not forgotten. She did not linger nearly long enough.

Edited for clarity.

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^^^^ I have no issues with PARF whatsoever fwiw. If I want to discuss politics or religion I know where to find it .... I just don't visit this forum for either one. I've occasionally started threads here in OT that have been moved over that have NEVER espoused a political opinion .... at least I can't recall one, but do get tired of PARF spill-over by a few who do. My apologies to everyone for my threads which have been moved.... PARF just brings out the worst side of Pelican .... same as it's always been :(.

I sure wish you could put moderators on ignore too ;)....

Thanks Chris :)

Wish this one would go back where it belongs too...

KC unfortunately these threads will get co-opted by politics and then they will be moved into PARF.

What should probably happen is that the PARFy comment be removed so the thread may live on.

Thanks Chris .... I know where to find PARF ... who doesnt ;)? You and Paul do a fine job imo... and in the "grey zone" .... I do think your idea is better ... whereas some threads just belong there. After PARF was created way back when .... the duality of threads on some topics was allowed .... takes a while to know just "what's what" .... yeah I am guilty too :D.

THanks - I don't moderate in there much to be fair - all credit to Seahawk as I tend to be a little too heavy handed apparently. :D

Touché! Spot on.

So now we are discussing moderation which is also reportedly taboo here?

What is the complaint about PARF again...and threads being set there (that started here)? You know, it is pretty easy to not start threads here that get sent to PARF. It is even easier to avoid PARF or even bringing it up (or those that post there) in OT.

Reminds me of an old story, A story about Br’er Rabbit

So Br’er Fox had caught Br’er Rabbit and this time Br’er Fox said he was going to cook Br’er Rabbit and eat him up for good! Br’er Rabbit was mighty scared. He begged, “Oh, Br’er Fox, I don’t care what you do with me, so long as you just don’t throw me in that briar patch over there. Go on and barbecue me up, Br’er Fox, but please don’t throw me in that briar patch.”

Br’er Fox said he was going to roast him anyhow, but when he went to hang Br’er Rabbit up over the fire, he found he didn’t have any string to tie him up with. “Well, I guess I can’t roast you,” Br’er Fox said. “I guess I’ll have to drown you instead.” Br’er Rabbit pleaded, “Oh, Br’er Fox, go ahead and drown me then, just so long as you don’t throw me into that briar patch!”

“Well,” said Br’er Fox, “it looks like there’s no water around here to drown you in. I guess I’ll skin you instead.” “Okay, Br’er Fox, no problem,” chattered Br’er Rabbit, “Go ahead and skin me, cut out my eyes, cut off my legs, just don’t throw me into that briar patch!”

By this time, Br’er Fox had gotten the idea that Br’er Rabbit really, really didn’t want to get anywhere near that briar patch. Br’er Fox wanted to hurt Br’er Rabbit as bad as he could, so he took Br’er Rabbit by the legs and threw him right smack into the middle of that briar patch. He heard a lot of rustling and crackling when Br’er Rabbit landed, and he waited around to see what terrible thing was going to happen.

But a few minutes later, he hears somebody calling, “Oh, yoo-hoo, Br’er Fox! Over here!” and he looks – and he sees Br’er Rabbit, sitting on a rock, combing the tar out of his fur with a stick. “Didn’t you know, Br’er Fox,” called Br’er Rabbit. “I was bred and born in the briar patch! Bred and born!” And he hopped away.

'Oh please, Mister Moderator, please don't send my thread to PARF!'

There was no complaint. It was a question about expiring redirects which also led to a discussion about why threads get sent there some time.

You seem to have read into this as and taken it personally or are spoiling for a fight.

I was not referring to your post at all. I do not take it personally nor am I spoiling for a fight.

I just noted that an awful lot of OT threads are latently political and/or disparage/call out folks in PARF "by accident" in a forum that excludes discussion of issues related to politics and religion...much less discussed as constantly as it is. The fastest way to ensure a topic is sent to PARF is to start with "Don't PARF this up"...or to start describing PARF or those that post in PARF (appropriately) in a poor light here (as is typical).

This thread addressed PARF and was posted in PARF. That is why I opened it. Then the OP was edited to indicate it should have been in OT. While not quite the direct OT attack as many, the undertone was not complimentary either...and is typical.

Folks that post about PARF in OT simply want to play PARF in OT but have a nanny. It is amusing, as they doth protest PARF a bit too much...when PARF generally ignores them until called upon. It is amusing to talk about amusing, nonpolitical, nonreligious things such as this in OT.

Understood. You gotta have thick skin there some times.. Cheers.

Try using the "ignore function" fint .... after 22 years here I finally did. It works :)

Nah. I like to linger. You see the strangest stuff posted here in OT. Some twist themselves like a pretzel.

Plus, it gives me a chance to pass on Uncle Remus stories to the youngsters that probably did not get to enjoy them in elementary school.

Stop being such a crier. Read the threads you want to read, post where you want to post and leave others the freedom to do the same.

?????

I don’t get the response.

Personally, i’d not move threads to PARF, i’d just delete them.

If there are posters continuously starting threads in OT that they should know belong in PARF why reward them?

Sure there are threads that started out as good discussions that ended up PARFy but again, moving them is no real consequence and does nothing to curb unwanted behaviour.

That’s my 2 cents.

I started this thread in PARF after the first balloon thread was PARF'd with political posts and moved over. The redirect was here not even for one day .... so I was curious as to how that worked .... nothing more.

The second balloon thread hasn't been PARF'd .... yet????

Discussions on the FED, gas prices, and NFL football (for example) .. where do they belong after the political post ho's take over .... seriously I have no problem visiting PARF, or dual threads even .... just don't bring Religion into every damn thread here .... and sell your Amway somewhere else too....

Or just delete those posts? I have been guilty .... sometimes because I didn't know a topic would trigger the zealots, sometimes in response to their posts...

Surely there is a forum for religion .... or mebbe it is here .... I dunno anymore....

So Repent!

My dawg is barking at deer .... she should know better by now .... annoys the neighbors .... gotta go!

Six in a line passed casually by yesterday morning..... :)

I have been gone for a while, so can someone catch me up on what actually went on here?

The last thing I remember, Daniel Dudley was sacked and Zman was installed as Moderator so that Wayne could post his right wing propaganda in OT without having to dirty himself in PARF. There would be several political threads going in OT at one time with no one batting an eye.

Now it appears Zman is gone, politics are gone and Seahawk is the mod?

WTF????

Daniel just went missing .... I think Zoltan might still moderate in PARF, he said it kept him busy tho. .... I dunno. Seahawk and Cabman volunteered to "clean this place up" .... I think Cabman lasted a week, and lately Chris has appeared.

The PARF spillover has diminished here in OT, but the topics discussed here and posts that are allowed to remain are as fuzzy as ever. This thread will disappear into PARFland in a few hours ..... if not sooner ;).

Many PPOT longtimers have simply left since you were here .... that's why Seahawk volunteered.

The mods have a thankless job.... but I thank them :).

Thanks for the update. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

I am going to close this thread and leave it here.

A few things: Z has been out of pocket but we talk all the time.

We have drawn up a series of rule simplifications that address some of the concerns expressed in this thread...OT and PARF specific.

One last point: What stays in OT and what is moved to PARF has nothing to do with the topic or title of the thread: Z and I watch for continued PARFY-ness before moving. TABS thread on the economy is a perfect example: So far, so good, an interesting discussion.

BTW, I frankly do not care if you agree with that approach or not.

As always, if you have any issues, just PM me...everyone has an opinion on how they would Mod the forums, but I would suggest you volunteer and give it a whirl.

Best.