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rfuerst911sc 10-15-2023 04:44 PM

^^^ That is sweet mechanical music ! Thanks for sharing .

yellowperil 10-17-2023 04:09 AM

Horner and Marko,
 
Trouble brewing, might be messy. I imagine Horner will survive. Might not be good for Red Bull, though.

GH85Carrera 10-17-2023 06:18 AM

You did not specify what problems. But I can't imagine why the owner would mess with the dominate winning team setup, except maybe replace Perez.

herr_oberst 10-17-2023 08:07 AM

The Red Bull owner died; there's a power struggle now between Marko and Horner to see who gets to be the decider. It was bound to break out into the open eventually, frankly I'm surprised it took this long. Marko has another year left on his contract.

GH85Carrera 10-17-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12111644)
The Red Bull owner died; there's a power struggle now between Marko and Horner to see who gets to be the decider. It was bound to break out into the open eventually, frankly I'm surprised it took this long. Marko has another year left on his contract.

OK, the power struggle after the power vacuum.

I saw that Hamilton was fined 50K Euro for his stroll across the track after his crash. He is no rookie, and should know better. I guess his luck is normally for the other car to be taken out, and he keeps racing, so it was a different situation for him.

He has just a handful of DNFs in his long career.

Deschodt 10-17-2023 02:07 PM

Horner runs the team, Marko runs young pilots, ruins careers, and makes racist comments now and then. I don't think that is even close.

rfuerst911sc 10-18-2023 09:05 AM

Well this is an interesting rumor . Not sure how true it is .

https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/rumours/f1-rumour-porsche-to-take-over-audi-formula-one-entry-sj4

GH85Carrera 10-18-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12112477)

Interesting. One thing to remember, the Porsche families own the majority of VW, which owns Porsche, Audi, VW Skoda and all the others. They are in control of it all. One of the richest families in all of Europe. If they decide to use the Porsche name instead of Audi, it just change the logo, and keep on working.

URY914 10-18-2023 11:56 AM

Only problem is.......... losing. Remember the CART loser? Porsche doesn't like to lose and they will in F1.

astrochex 10-18-2023 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 12112599)
Only problem is.......... losing. Remember the CART loser? Porsche doesn't like to lose and they will in F1.

They were hosed by the rules. They did win with Teo Fabi.

URY914 10-18-2023 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 12112622)
They were hosed by the rules. They did win with Teo Fabi.

One race in three years and it was in a March. They have rules in F1 too.

Zeke 10-18-2023 02:57 PM

I watched an update on the LV track last night. Pretty interesting.

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astrochex 10-18-2023 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 12112644)
One race in three years and it was in a March. They have rules in F1 too.

They had a carbon chassis that was approved then not allowed. They had to redesign the chassis and never fully recovered the speed.

stealthn 10-19-2023 09:32 AM

Interesting!

Someone on X just posted that the posters around COTA shows Felipe Drugovich instead of Lance Stroll with all the other drivers.

GH85Carrera 10-19-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12113232)
Interesting!

Someone on X just posted that the posters around COTA shows Felipe Drugovich instead of Lance Stroll with all the other drivers.

I have to feel sorry for Lance. Like many young drivers, he wanted to be a F1 driver. With daddies money, he got to be one. And his 42 year old teammate has soundly beat him race after race, and not by just a little.

Back when I was in my 20s I was driving my 914 as my daily driver and winning many autocrosses. I thought I was good. Then I did a track day with the Peachstate PCA and we drove Road Atlanta. I had done one session and felt like I was doing OK for a 95 HP street car. One instructor asked if I wanted any help, and he drove my car with me in it. On his first lap, he was two seconds faster than I was. He was 4 seconds faster after a few laps. I went out and tried his lines, and brake points, and I was faster than before, but never close to him. I knew then, I was not going to be a race car driver. I still have a blast on track. I would love to have a top pro drive my car with me in it, just to show me what my car can do. Not likely to ever happen. I still have fun, and that is all I really care about, and getting to drive it back home.

herr_oberst 10-19-2023 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12113279)
I have to feel sorry for Lance

Not here. Not one bit. Not even a little.

There's a lot of Sennas out there that will never get a chance.

Deschodt 10-19-2023 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12113279)
I have to feel sorry for Lance. Like many young drivers, he wanted to be a F1 driver. With daddies money, he got to be one. And his 42 year old teammate has soundly beat him race after race, and not by just a little.

Not a fan of his, but the guy *did* finish on the podium a few times in F1, even before Fernando joined and the Aston was as good as this year. He is not THAT bad, I don't think other pay drivers managed that. Still, it seems something broke inside, it must suck to be him with all that invested in you, face Alonso, and realize there's another entire level above you !!! He looks broken to me ! (the shoving, the attitude at COTA press conference)

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12113289)
Not here. Not one bit. Not even a little.
There's a lot of Sennas out there that will never get a chance.

I agree with that also, but such is life. If American idol taught us anything, 20% of the population can sing ! 1% sound as good as Mariah Carey (or whoever) ;-) Some get lucky, some do not.

Reg 10-19-2023 07:10 PM

Half the field (maybe more) is paying to be there in some way not just Stroll. I saw a post earlier where he beat Russell I believe it was in junior categories.

917_Langheck 10-19-2023 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12113279)
Back when I was in my 20s I was driving my 914 as my daily driver and winning many autocrosses. I thought I was good. Then I did a track day with the Peachstate PCA and we drove Road Atlanta. I had done one session and felt like I was doing OK for a 95 HP street car. One instructor asked if I wanted any help, and he drove my car with me in it. On his first lap, he was two seconds faster than I was. He was 4 seconds faster after a few laps. I went out and tried his lines, and brake points, and I was faster than before, but never close to him. I knew then, I was not going to be a race car driver. I still have a blast on track. I would love to have a top pro drive my car with me in it, just to show me what my car can do. Not likely to ever happen. I still have fun, and that is all I really care about, and getting to drive it back home.

Some years ago, before the tribe destroyed the track, Boris Said and his racing buddy showed up at Amago kart track. I was crewing and driving C-open kart - twin 135cc B-Bombs on methanol configured in direct drive. Boris et al. we're driving 125cc shifters. The C-open made mega power right out of the corner and pulled hard through the midrange, so it should have been no worries keeping up through the fast twisty section. While I drove a fast, smooth line, he just flicked and danced that kart down the track (basically just full throttle while whole time, scrubbing speed off with the tires, not the left foot) and distanced me. Very disheartening.

Then, in the pits, I found out why when he pitched his custom Trans Am race-ready helmet on the ground and stopped it bouncing on the tarmac like a basketball with his foot. I drove the kart like it belonged to someone else and couldn't pay for it, whereas he drove like it would be someone else's problem if it went kablamo.

You can see that today when an up and coming F1 shoe parks the car into the fence a couple of times. The pressure to not screw up causes more screw ups. The flip side to that potential, however, are people like Grosjean.

red 928 10-20-2023 10:25 AM

This morning I recorded what I thought was the F1 free practice 1.

Boy was I surprised that it was in fact the F1 academy
which is apparently F1's version of the WNBA and is better than
F2 and F3 which are based on old fashioned notions of
driver performance and talent
.
No, the woke F1 academy obviously puts priority on gender and race.
Just as it should be.

F1 is finally starting to become a serious organization
with good leadership and a future!!!
Now they just need to get a some drivers who are transitioning.


I can't remember ever witnessing a successful organization
try so hard to commit suicide.

David Inc. 10-20-2023 12:21 PM

F1 Academy is a junior program to try to open a pathway for women to get into F3 and beyond. The cars are F4 cars with 175hp. I think they're trying to keep the costs down to keep it running instead of the dead W series.

yellowperil 10-20-2023 03:31 PM

Soon as I saw Charles' helmet I knew he was going to be somewhere up fronthttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1697840970.jpg

It didn't really match his car, but.... nice helmet.

J-Mac 10-20-2023 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 12110563)

I was at the Grand Prix in Monza in 96. The sound of a full field of those cars, well you can guess the rest.

I moved to California in 98 and during the 2000s was at Laguna Seca for the F1 car demonstration, can’t remember which team but it was, but the car was a v10. Well the US folks there could not believe the sound, how loud just one car was. Seeing and hearing these cars in real time is unforgettable.

cjh 10-20-2023 05:57 PM

I watched the F1 Academy this morning and they all did pretty good except for the ones who had problem with the LF wheel locking up and probably creating a flat spot.
It looks like a different format for 2024, but still 15 cars and running support for some of the F1 races.

Noah930 10-20-2023 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 12113981)
This morning I recorded what I thought was the F1 free practice 1.

Boy was I surprised that it was in fact the F1 academy
which is apparently F1's version of the WNBA and is better than
F2 and F3 which are based on old fashioned notions of
driver performance and talent
.
No, the woke F1 academy obviously puts priority on gender and race.
Just as it should be.

F1 is finally starting to become a serious organization
with good leadership and a future!!!
Now they just need to get a some drivers who are transitioning.


I can't remember ever witnessing a successful organization
try so hard to commit suicide.

Well, that’s one thing you probably can’t pin on the F1’s head Saudi dude.

astrochex 10-21-2023 02:22 PM

COTA qualifying was fun.

rockfan4 10-22-2023 11:03 AM

Isn't the SAG strike still on? Why is Adam Driver on my TV promoting the Ferrari movie?

dennis in se pa 10-22-2023 11:40 AM

COTA - an American race. Why are the announcers squeaky voiced foreigners with horrible accents? They couldn’t get any qualified Americans? That speak actual English?

oldE 10-22-2023 02:45 PM

Dennis, try picking up the F1 feed. Even though David Coulthard is Scottish, you can understand him.
Max only won by 2 seconds. Oh yeah, his brakes were bad.

Best
Les

yellowperil 10-22-2023 03:28 PM

Well Max had to work for that one, could have been Lando or Ham with another lap or two. But he earned it.

Sorry to hear him being booed. Ham and Lando had a good fan base there. They worked hard too.

Zeke 10-22-2023 04:32 PM

2wice Max had to say, "Please stop talking...." He's becoming Kimi.

J-Mac 10-22-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 12115505)
2wice Max had to say, "Please stop talking...." He's becoming Kimi.

Twice Max said “stop talking when I’m braking” Not Kimi in any way. If you’ve raced you’ll know braking involves all senses on full alert, including sound.

Paul K 10-22-2023 05:32 PM

Lewis & Charles disqualified.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1038965/1/hamilton-loses-podium-he-and-leclerc-excluded-plank-wear-breach?fbclid=IwAR1xwYYTZ9IiNUQumffLrwLenbq3Bfs5Mf uupkKTjxfHCxg7qJibtY7Qrzc_aem_AUnm7dDk1VJDivuK7gvB Dltgn2WGgG_iK5GTbBPt8ZtbUE-_Jjt-Y3NMMfCaH9j0ufc

What the…

herr_oberst 10-22-2023 05:35 PM

I guess that new floor isn't working the way Mercedes was hoping.

Reg 10-22-2023 05:41 PM

The track is bumpier as all get out. This is a shame.

Jeff Higgins 10-22-2023 08:08 PM

It's my understanding that the FIA only checks four cars at every race, selected completely at random, and that no one has been disqualified on this since the 1990's.

I would guess that this was a calculated risk, that the teams knew the cars were too low and just assumed they would not get caught. I would be surprised to learn that any team at this level would make such a "mistake". I wonder how much of a performance advantage they gained. Could Lewis have caught Lando without this advantage? Maybe George's performance answers that question.

red 928 10-23-2023 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 12114351)
Well, that’s one thing you probably can’t pin on the F1’s head Saudi dude.

Maybe. Maybe not.

here's an article from Aljazeera with more detail.
Quote:

Women drivers race to break Formula 1’s male monopoly
With nearly half of Formula 1 fans now female, new initiatives aim to get women into the driving seat.

By Jessica Baldwin
Published On 4 Mar 2023
4 Mar 2023
Silverstone, England – As the Formula 1 season kicks off this weekend in Bahrain in front of a sell-out crowd, fans can expect to see blistering speeds, squealing tyres, sliding fast corners and daring overtaking.

What they won’t see is a female driver.

There has not been a woman driver in a Formula 1 race for more than 40 years. But that could be about to change.

With about 40 percent of F1 fans now female, the motorsport industry is making a concerted effort to ensure that at least one of the 20 drivers on the grid is female.

Formula 1 has put its clout behind the F1 Academy. On Wednesday, the organisation announced that the initiative for women drivers will be headed by Susie Wolff, former driver and wife of Toto Wolff, the CEO of the Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 team.

The F1 Academy will subsidise the budgets for 15 women who drive for five teams.

Another initiative is More Than Equal, a non-profit launched in June with the sole purpose of putting a woman on the podium.

More Than Equal will scout the world for talented young female drivers and then nurture them to success.

Founder Kate Beavan rejects the notion that women lack the strength to compete.

“Seventy-five women have been to space with all of its physical challenges, G-forces, with its technical challenges of understanding the technology behind it, and it is a highly competitive environment as a programme to get in to,” Beavan, a longtime Formula 1 executive, told Al Jazeera.

“So, I think that lays that argument to rest.”


No rules prevent women from competing in Formula 1 but the pipeline of young female drivers is a trickle and they face additional hurdles, including a lack of confidence.

“I always doubted myself. I never thought I could be there beating the guys. I think I definitely had a bit of intimidation or impostor syndrome which perhaps did stem from that,” said Jamie Chadwick, a driver for Williams Academy and three-time winner of the W Series, specifically for women drivers.

She said the confidence eventually came with “time, getting older in the sport, having great opportunities and great people supporting me and those opportunities have helped. But, honestly, it’s only come recently, in the last five or six years,” said the 24-year-old, who is now driving in the INDY NXT series in the United States.

Speaking to Al Jazeera at the Williams headquarters in Wantage, England, surrounded by dozens of F1 cars, Chadwick said her dream is “ultimately Formula 1”.

Another young driver with dreams of Formula 1 is Macie Hitter.

The 15-year-old has raced go-karts since she was eight, winning countless races and amassing a glittering collection of trophies on display at her home in Griston, England.

The schoolgirl doesn’t go to parties or shop with friends. For the last seven years, Hitter has been in the gym or on the track preparing for the next race. On race day, she’s faced an extra stumbling block – being female.

“When women come to the track the boys are very confused about why they are here because it’s a very male-dominated sport. When you arrive they’re like ‘is that a girl there?’ A lot of them do not want to be beaten by a girl. So, I’ve had some challenging weekends being taken off [the track],” she told Al Jazeera.

“But the more experience you get and the more you’re with the boys they realise you are there and they start to race with you, but it’s been tough.”

Macie Hitter, 15
Macie Hitter, 15, has raced go-karts since she was eight, winning countless races and amassing a collection of trophies [Jessica Baldwin/Al Jazeera]
The day Al Jazeera watched Hitter on a go-kart track in northern England, she was the fastest by far, topping 120km (74.5 miles) per hour in a machine just centimetres off the asphalt.

Despite a successful go-karting career, Hitter has struggled to find sponsorship – which is critical to make the step up to cars. Sponsors want to back winners and women aren’t seen on the podium.

“You don’t see a woman in F1 right now so I would say it is more difficult for a woman to get [sponsorship] but I am hoping that it is going to start becoming more frequent,’’ Hitter said.


Hitter may be a driver in the sights of More Than Equal.

Beavan said the organisation is doing research into why women drivers aren’t making it to Formula 1, or even F2, F3 or F4 where only a handful of women race. Once More Than Equal has the data, it will scout for talent.

Despite fans’ enthusiasm for a mixed grid, those involved in making it happen estimate it will be eight to nine years before a Formula 1 race includes a female driver.

“A very small proportion of the racing drivers in the world are female and we need to find where they are, what they are racing in, identify their racing abilities and pluck them and then develop their skills – whether that is physical, mental, race craft – and help drive them all the way up to Formula 1,” Beavan said on a grey day at Silverstone, home of the British Grand Prix.

Tickets to this season’s Grand Prix at Silverstone in July sold out in record time. Audiences for Formula 1 have skyrocketed in the last three years, thanks in no small part to the Netflix series Formula 1: Drive to Survive – a runaway hit during lockdown. That’s how Isabella Vittoria, 27, got hooked.

Vittoria, a marketing executive at Bumble, the online dating app, is a typical new fan: young, female, and engaging with Formula 1 on social media. Ahead of her upcoming marriage, she is celebrating her bachelorette party at the Barcelona Grand Prix with her sister, Alexa, and five female friends.

“I would love to see a woman driver in F1. It’s such a male-dominated sport, not just for the drivers, but also for the teams behind the scenes,” Vittoria said.

“I would love to see what a woman driver brings to the on-track dynamic.”

Captain Ahab Jr 10-23-2023 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 12115641)
It's my understanding that the FIA only checks four cars at every race, selected completely at random, and that no one has been disqualified on this since the 1990's.

I would guess that this was a calculated risk, that the teams knew the cars were too low and just assumed they would not get caught. I would be surprised to learn that any team at this level would make such a "mistake". I wonder how much of a performance advantage they gained. Could Lewis have caught Lando without this advantage? Maybe George's performance answers that question.

Plank has several 50mm legality through holes in prescribed positions, thickness is only measured around these holes

Thickness rule is simple plank has to be 10mm +/-1mm through out the race event

When designing the skids you are limited by a specified minimum area per skid, shape and position of skids is free

If you run nose down, more skids are needed to protect the front legality hole but these modern F1 car run faster flatter to the ground so skids are still biased towards the front but now the rear legality hole needs a little wear protection too

Mercedes and Ferrari are having to run a more aggressive on the limit set up to try and keep with RBR

Only mistake both teams made is they over stepped the limit, F1 is all about pushing all the limits

URY914 10-23-2023 05:01 AM

Captain,
Are the F1 rules public information? Online somewhere?

The level of detail you must live by is maddening, I assume.

Reg 10-23-2023 05:22 AM

Great info. Thank you, Captain!


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