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Captain Ahab Jr 07-28-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 12054828)
I liked Ottmar but it kinda makes sense in a way, there have been a lot of silly mistakes this year all around and they've gone backwards, the buck stops somewhere.
Ottmar and Alan Permane were let go.. Pat Fry apparently quit and is joining Williams.
Ugly... There are my underdog team, I guess I better get used to 13-14th on the grid now.
I hope they're not sold to Andretti - nothing against him but I like the ALpine brand and their sports car...I dream of buying an A110 someday.

Apparently Binotto is on top of their shopping list !

Nearly 100 years of F1 experience with those 3 guys, all well respected within F1

Now Alpine has 1 guy at the top with 1 year of F1 experience from working on the slowest engine on the grid

Unsettling times ahead for everyone at Enstone

Never enough experienced F1 folk to go around so exsisting teams and if there are new teams will be all be using the situation to their advantage

CurtEgerer 07-28-2023 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 12055001)
For that kind of money I would expect to be at Monte Carlo or have unlimited access at another venue.

For that kind of money, I would expect a lap or 2 in the car. Driving! :cool:

GH85Carrera 07-29-2023 12:19 PM

Well, the rain made for interesting qualifying, and then the second qualifying for the sprint race. And the Sprint race was started behind a safety car it was so wet.

And now we all know why teams were fighting over Oscar Piastri.

ted 07-29-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 12055133)
For that kind of money, I would expect a lap or 2 in the car. Driving! :cool:

It's a place to be seen, a status symbol event where a race broke out.
The long Beach Grand Prix crowd are not rich, all the locals attend.
That's a keg party where a race broke out.
I expect half of the spectators at either race will not attend any other race this year.

herr_oberst 07-29-2023 07:02 PM

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rfuerst911sc 07-30-2023 06:11 AM

Dominant............ Dominant............ Dominant . Crazy good drive by the leader .

GH85Carrera 07-30-2023 08:15 AM

Lots of passing in the race. And dominate is the word.

Captain Ahab Jr 07-30-2023 08:18 AM

Just loving this season, 12 wins in 12 races or 20 wins in 21 races :)

Breaking a win record set by the mighty McLaren team in 1988 is a monster achievement :cool:

Max is just playing with the rest of the grid :eek:

herr_oberst 07-30-2023 08:20 AM

I don't know, dominate? The winner missed the fastest lap bonus point....race strategy needs to be tightened up...\

(Message to the pits -"Maybe I should come in so we can practice pit stops")

Noah930 07-30-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ted (Post 12055896)
It's a place to be seen, a status symbol event where a race broke out.
The long Beach Grand Prix crowd are not rich, all the locals attend.
That's a keg party where a race broke out.
I expect half of the spectators at either race will not attend any other race this year.

Yep, that kinda sums up the World's Fastest Beach Party.

But it's also a race where a non-race fan could be entertained, as there's so much to see and do. The fan experience at most other IndyCar races is much more geared towards the race fan, and the race fan alone.

red 928 07-30-2023 10:48 PM

I looked as closely as I could at the damage on Sainz's car.
It looked like a large puncture to the side pod,
and some damage to the floor.

I wondered if the significant loss of pace was due
to the floor or the side pod or both?

And that led to a question:
why doesn't F1 use that sticky thick tape to repair
cars like every other form of motorsport does?
I've been watching F1 for several decades and don't recall
ever seeing it used.

If the damage to the side pod was affecting the aero,
seems like a couple slabs of that tape would have
it fixed in a jiffy (a jiffy is roughly 5 seconds).
If the floor was the only problem I doubt sticky tape
would help much ;)


So, is that tape against the rules or just too redneck
for the snooty F1 types?




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red 928 07-30-2023 10:51 PM

For comparison, here's a pic of the floor from Barcelona

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1690786248.jpg

red 928 07-30-2023 11:03 PM

I nominate this as the quote of the week:

Quote:

Soon-to-be former Alpine team principal Otmar Szafnauer says he needed more time to make the team a success, after all,
“you can’t get nine women pregnant and hope you have a baby in a month”.

WPOZZZ 07-31-2023 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 12056654)
I looked as closely as I could at the damage on Sainz's car.
It looked like a large puncture to the side pod,
and some damage to the floor.

I wondered if the significant loss of pace was due
to the floor or the side pod or both?

And that led to a question:
why doesn't F1 use that sticky thick tape to repair
cars like every other form of motorsport does?
I've been watching F1 for several decades and don't recall
ever seeing it used.

If the damage to the side pod was affecting the aero,
seems like a couple slabs of that tape would have
it fixed in a jiffy (a jiffy is roughly 5 seconds).
If the floor was the only problem I doubt sticky tape
would help much ;)


So, is that tape against the rules or just too redneck
for the snooty F1 types?





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Probably too declasse. If speed tape is good enough for this, it should be fine for F1.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Speed_tape.jpg

astrochex 07-31-2023 06:40 AM

Received pre-selection notice for marshal duties at the Vegas race. More paperwork and a background check before completion of process.

matthewb0051 07-31-2023 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 12055093)
I'm hopeful that Vegas will flop spectacularly - not this year but next - it'll be a flex for the mega rich one time, and then those people that are there only to show themselves and be rude to Martin brundle will realize they don't need F1 to do that (esp in Vegas) and move on.

Honestly F1 is rather boring most of the time for "common folks" unless you're an F1 nerd and enjoy the chess being played, and I'm hoping the sport will collapse back to it's normal attendance with less races, on traditional circuits! It's grown way too much of late in a strange "entertainment vs sport" direction. Most of the new circuits are terrible and now they're even talking of castrating Spa by cutting off Eau rouge !!! it's not heading in the right direction, for me anyway.

I think most of the 'celebs', especially athletes from the US are there to see Hamilton; ditto for many of the Euros in attendance. They only know of the sport due to that relationship. Once he retires, I'm thinking (hoping) they will all disappear back to where they came from.

Yesterday I watched Stewart which ESPN aired after the Hungarian GP. Great film and really takes you back to when fans watched F1 at the traditional circuits. The only thing watching it on ESPN was they blurred the topless women at the beach and for some reason blurred Francois Cevert's crotch when he was in his fireproof underwear.

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Zeke 07-31-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 12056208)
Yep, that kinda sums up the World's Fastest Beach Party.

But it's also a race where a non-race fan could be entertained, as there's so much to see and do. The fan experience at most other IndyCar races is much more geared towards the race fan, and the race fan alone.

LBGP harkens back to Riverside which was the ultimate party Can Am or NASCAR. Epic parties. I guess it's a SoCal thing.

Deschodt 07-31-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 12056657)
I nominate this as the quote of the week:

I use it a lot talking about PMs. Project managers are folks who believe 9 women together can deliver a baby in a month.

I hate that profession. Very few good ones.

GH85Carrera 07-31-2023 10:40 AM

I had heard that same sentiment phrased in reverse:

No matter how many men you put on the project, it will take 9 month to make a baby.

David Inc. 07-31-2023 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 12056978)
I use it a lot talking about PMs. Project managers are folks who believe 9 women together can deliver a baby in a month.

I hate that profession. Very few good ones.

I've been a PM or in project planning and frequently use the phrase myself. I'm often shocked at how limited the scheduling and resourcing skills are with some PMs.


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