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GH85Carrera 11-27-2023 05:00 AM
Max lead for 1,000 laps this season.

Only 11 drivers have led more than a 1,000 laps in their entire career!

Career laps in the lead:

Lewis Hamilton: 5,455 laps
Michael Schumacher: 5,111 laps
Sebastian Vettel: 3,501 laps
Ayrton Senna: 2,931 laps
Max Verstappen: 2,806 laps
Alain Prost: 2,683 laps
Nigel Mansell: 2,091 laps
Jim Clark: 1,943 laps
Jackie Stewart: 1,919 laps
Fernando Alonso: 1,773 laps
Nelson Piquet: 1,600 laps

Another astonishing statistic, Max is the ONLY driver that finished every lap of every race. Proving the old addage: To finish first, first you must finish.

astrochex 11-27-2023 07:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12140328)
The FIA have updated their Sporting Regulations and added a 6.5% increase (the US Consumer Price Index) to the entry fee required from each team next season.

The winners of the constructors’ championship, Red Bull, must fork out $657,837 (£543,294) plus an additional $7,893 (6,518.67) per point scored this year.

The other teams must pay $657,837 (£543,294) plus an additional $6,575 (£5,429).

So, based on every team's final points tally following the F1 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, the invoices stand at...

Red Bull - $7,445,817
Mercedes - $3,347,012
Ferrari - $3,327,287
McLaren - $2,643,747
Aston Martin - $2,498,837
Alpine - $1,446,837
Williams - $841,937
AlphaTauri - $822,212
Alfa Romeo - $763,037
Haas - $736,737
A success tax! The FIA are no dummies when it comes to making money.

450knotOffice 11-27-2023 07:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ted (Post 12139868)
I'm here for a spoiler, crib notes of the race because....
How did everyone like the kids calling the race today?
Is F1 trying to get more 10 year old's to watch racing?
I found it unwatchable.
Cartoon graphics and munchkins for commentary.
Totally trivializing F1, thanks for explaining what bottoming out means.
Turned it off after fast forwarding and found it was going to be a long race with kids that sounded like their lungs were full of helium.

Anthony Davidson in the pre race show with the ghost car qualifying lap overview was the only segment worth watching. :)
I noticed the same. Immediately. I use YouTube TV as my provider and went back and noticed that there were actually FIVE viewing options - the first option was "ESPNU" and the second was just plain 'ol 'ESPN". I had just grabbed the first one, and and quickly realized the error of my ways, lol. I went back and selected the second option - basic ESPN - and was presented with the normal hosts.

Stay away from ESPNU if you're older than about 5 years of age.

GH85Carrera 11-27-2023 08:13 AM
We watched it on ESPN and it was all the adult announcers. No way at all will I ever listen to kids for a race announcers.

astrochex 11-27-2023 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 12140433)
I noticed the same. Immediately. I use YouTube TV as my provider and went back and noticed that there were actually FIVE viewing options - the first option was "ESPNU" and the second was just plain 'ol 'ESPN". I had just grabbed the first one, and and quickly realized the error of my ways, lol. I went back and selected the second option - basic ESPN - and was presented with the normal hosts.

Stay away from ESPNU if you're older than about 5 years of age.
I will pay attention to this option now. I don't know if the scars will ever go away.

GH85Carrera 11-27-2023 08:29 AM
Some of the records from this year.

Full list of every record broken by Max Verstappen in 2023
Highest percentage of wins in a season
Most wins in a season
Most points in a season
Most consecutive wins
Most podiums in a season
Most laps led in a season
Highest percentage of laps led in a season
Most consecutive wins from pole
Most wins from pole in a season
Biggest points gap between 1st and 2nd in standings.
Most consecutive races as championship leader
Most consecutive points scored
Most consecutive top-two finishes
Most hat-tricks in a season
Most pitstops by the winning driver in one race
Only driver to win 3 times in 1 country
Only driver to lead 1000 laps ever in a season

450knotOffice 11-27-2023 08:56 AM
^^ Amazing domination, but boring as could be for anyone NOT a RBR fan. With that said, congrats to a job very well done by RBR and Max. It's up to the other teams to try to catch them.

Reg 11-27-2023 09:25 AM
I wonder how he’d do in the Williams next year. It be tough and that’s one reason to tip the hat to all the midfielder runners. Chasing that RB car with little hope must be a challenge.

GH85Carrera 11-27-2023 09:36 AM
Much like the years Mercedes was just the fastest thing on track. The domination is boring for all but Max's fans.

Maybe the other teams can step up. They are not even close right now. When Red Bull has more points than the 2nd and 3rd place teams combined, it is not a real contest.

Mercedes won it all for what 8 years?

Captain Ahab Jr 11-28-2023 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12140459)
Some of the records from this year.

Full list of every record broken by Max Verstappen in 2023
Highest percentage of wins in a season
Most wins in a season
Most points in a season
Most consecutive wins
Most podiums in a season
Most laps led in a season
Highest percentage of laps led in a season
Most consecutive wins from pole
Most wins from pole in a season
Biggest points gap between 1st and 2nd in standings.
Most consecutive races as championship leader
Most consecutive points scored
Most consecutive top-two finishes
Most hat-tricks in a season
Most pitstops by the winning driver in one race
Only driver to win 3 times in 1 country
Only driver to lead 1000 laps ever in a season
Wow :eek: that's total domination

From this long list my favourite record broken has to be 'highest % wins in a season' set by Honda in 1988 and broken by Honda 35yrs later :cool:

Zeke 11-28-2023 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12140500)
Much like the years Mercedes was just the fastest thing on track. The domination is boring for all but Max's fans.

Maybe the other teams can step up. They are not even close right now. When Red Bull has more points than the 2nd and 3rd place teams combined, it is not a real contest.

Mercedes won it all for what 8 years?
And Ferrari had their heyday with Schumacher. If Porsche killed CanAm, as some people think, RB could do big damage to F1 if they repeat this year.

An overall comment, not aimed at RB or anyone in particular, when is fast fast enough?

GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 12141239)
And Ferrari had their heyday with Schumacher. If Porsche killed CanAm, as some people think, RB could do big damage to F1 if they repeat this year.

An overall comment, not aimed at RB or anyone in particular, when is fast fast enough?

For so many years Mercedes was just in a class of their own. It is not the winner's fault that figured out the right formula to win. The others need to step up.

herr_oberst 11-28-2023 05:12 PM
Here's a 1350hp blast from the past:

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917_Langheck 11-28-2023 09:01 PM
Posting just because this is comment 993 in the list....

Need to take away Newey's pencil if folks want to regularly poke around the front of the grid. That guy has an pack of championships to his credit - not solely as a result of his designs, of course, but a review of his resume is enlightening.

red 928 11-28-2023 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12141272)
. The others need to step up.
the rules are designed to prevent that.

Limits on spending,
limits on testing,
limits on wind tunnel work,
all maintain the status quo.

oldE 11-29-2023 01:50 AM
Before anyone calls for Adrian Newey's forced retirement, don't forget the driver of the second Red Bull only just managed to get second in the championship. I am not Max's biggest fan, but the combination of car and driver made the difference, just as when Hamilton and Mercedes or Schumacher and Ferrari were winning and raising a great whining noise in the "fan base".

Best
Les

astrochex 11-29-2023 04:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12141340)
Here's a 1350hp blast from the past:
Glorious, thanks for posting.

GH85Carrera 11-29-2023 05:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 12141439)
the rules are designed to prevent that.

Limits on spending,
limits on testing,
limits on wind tunnel work,
all maintain the status quo.

And wow, those rules were so effective in 2023.

red 928 11-29-2023 09:28 AM
it would seem they were effective at preventing improvements,
as only McLaren managed to make
any sizeable improvement during the 2023 season.

Of course, red bull exceeded the spending limit
but I believe that happened in 2022.
just prior to the total dominance referenced above.


F1 was always about the best.
The fastest, the most technologically innovative,
the most daring. Racing at the limits of what is possible.
That is what made it so interesting.

Now it's all about business.
Not racing.

Captain Ahab Jr 12-01-2023 06:03 AM
Hoping the news I've just heard from a very well connected friend is wrong

Andretti/GM will not be pleased :(

Stinks for so many reasons and will send out an extremely bad message for many years :mad:


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