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flatbutt 03-19-2023 04:12 PM

George Welchman...SigInt genius...
 
and destroyed by the intelligence community he helped create. What a story.

Turing's work on Enigma was improved by Welchman but he didn't get the credit he deserved.

https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Welchman/

Alan A 03-19-2023 05:00 PM

Well they weren’t particularly kind to Turing either.
Perhaps they should do some analysis and see if a pattern emerges…

jcwade 03-20-2023 08:45 AM

The English never did like the Welsh. ;)

Fascinating story.

red 928 03-20-2023 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcwade (Post 11951176)
The English never did like the Welsh. ;)

Fascinating story.

Quote:

A guy walks into a bar and hears two women speaking in a British accent.
He asks, "Are you ladies from England?"
One says to him "No, it's Wales, you idiot!"
So, then the guy says, "Okay, sorry. So, are you two whales from England?"
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1679339563.jpg

Danimal16 03-20-2023 03:17 PM

Nor did the Polish Cipher Bureau get the credit for breaking Enigma to begin with. They started their work as early as 1928 and were reading German code from 1932. They turned over their methods to the British and French 5 weeks before the Germans invaded Poland. If you follow what happened to them it is tragic that they did not receive the recognition that quite possibly put the nail in Reich's coffin. Same crap happened to the Polish flyers in the RAF. After all, the west did not want to piss off Uncle Joe. Turing did not break nor develop the methods to break Enigma, he merely used the Poles' methods to keep up with the changes.

flatbutt 03-20-2023 07:40 PM

I did not know that

https://www.history.co.uk/articles/the-polish-cryptographers-who-cracked-the-enigma-code

Hawkeye's-911T 03-24-2023 11:45 AM

Hey Thanks Flat

Personally - the subject of codes & breaking same has been a fascinating subject to me for years. Good to see there are others out there interested in this oft overlooked but critical part of our history.

Cheers
JB

Alan A 03-24-2023 12:56 PM

If anyone is interested in this stuff - and since you are all old farts I know you have time to spare - David Kahn’s book ‘the codebreakers’ is a pretty good read.

gacook 03-24-2023 01:19 PM

I'm an encryption guy, so I love this stuff. My stepsons are Navajo, so I made sure to talk to them about the Windtalkers when they were growing up. Very cool stuff in history when it comes to codes, breaking codes, and workarounds for developing new encryption techniques.


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