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Baz 08-05-2023 11:31 PM

Self-service gas returns to Oregon after 70 years
 
Congratulations to all you Oregonians to finally have this freedom again! SmileWavy

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Baz 08-05-2023 11:35 PM

I don't remember anyone "showing" me how to pump my own gas. I think I just read the instructions on the pump and figured it out.

Is this something that people feel is hard to know how to do?

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Baz 08-05-2023 11:37 PM

OK here we go....:)

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LWJ 08-06-2023 04:40 AM

Not a fan. It didn’t seem to add any cost and was a source of employment for people with fewer skills.

KFC911 08-06-2023 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 12061353)
Not a fan. It didn’t seem to add any cost and was a source of employment for people with fewer skills.

This surprises me....

When self-service came on the scene here decades ago, those full-service pumps added quite a bit to the price.... only "rich" folks with money to burn used them ;).

Efficiency? How many attendants does a station with 16 pumps employ, and would I let some idjut attempt to fuel my 911, etc.

Nope....

"Maroons" belong in a box of Crayolas imo.... not scratching up my car and making me pay for their "service".

WPOZZZ 08-06-2023 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12061359)
This surprises me....

When self-service came on the scene here decades ago, those full-service pumps added quite a bit to the price.... only "rich" folks with money to burn used them ;).

Efficiency? How many attendants does a station with 16 pumps employ, and would I let some idjut attempt to fuel my 911, etc.

Nope....

"Maroons" belong in a box of Crayolas imo.... not scratching up my car and making me pay for their "service".

Fill it up with ethyl.
kid: My name is Rob not Ethel.

cstreit 08-06-2023 06:30 AM

I can't believe normal functioning adults are concerned they can't pump their own gas. What do they imagine the rest of us do? wave the wand around standing in a puddle of gas?

Baz 08-06-2023 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 12061385)
I can't believe normal functioning adults are concerned they can't pump their own gas. What do they imagine the rest of us do? wave the wand around standing in a puddle of gas?

They are soft.....also enjoy the servitude angle....someone to wait on them hand and foot.....

KFC911 08-06-2023 06:59 AM

I'm shocked that self-service was even around 70 years ago.... I don't think it appeared here until the 70s.....

No one has ever pumped my gas for me ... checked the oil, cleaned my windshield, or told me how to catch a big ol' catfish on a hotdog....

I missed out on the Gomer experience :D

Rusty Heap 08-06-2023 07:06 AM

I can still remember full service gas stations. I worked at one, 1970's/80's. When pumping a customers gas we'd check oil and clean windshield. Even top off a low tire pressure. a FULL service gas station that had lifts and tools to fix peoples cars.

KFC911 08-06-2023 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 12061412)
I can still remember full service gas stations. I worked at one, 1970's/80's. When pumping a customers gas we'd check oil and clean windshield. Even top off a low tire pressure. a FULL service gas station that had lifts and tools to fix peoples cars.

Those were still around (but fading fast) when I started driving in '76 ... I was putting $3 worth of gas in my Jeep CJ5 back then ... or mebbe $4...

I could barely afford the gas tho' .... I had a new Jeep to pay for :D

rwest 08-06-2023 07:29 AM

I drove the 911 to Oregon from MN probably going on twenty years now and forgot that they wouldn’t let you pump your own gas, and I started to put the nozzle in out of habit and the attendant rushed over, but because it was a Porsche with the weird filler, he let me continue with close supervision!

GH85Carrera 08-06-2023 07:42 AM

I got my driver's license on my 16th birthday, and freedom!

I remember many times stopping at Sarge's service station just off base in Montgomery, AL. Pull in, run over the rubber hose and make the bell ding inside the station. Out came Sarge or one of the two employees. They washed the windshield if needed, checked the oil, checked the tires, and filled up my 60 VW bug. It was usually about $2.50 to fill up. The first time it cost me THREE whole dollars to fill up I was outraged!

The gas shortages of the oil embargo pretty much killed full service due to the cost of gas. Like maternity dress shops, full service stations are not on my radar, I am sure they are out there, just I don't pay attention to them.

I was in New Jersey, and honestly did not think about it being a state where I had to pay for someone to pump my gas. I still stood right there, and I told him filling up a 911 is like filling up a bucket, when it shuts off, it is full. And to be careful with the paint. He asked about the car, and seemed like a nice enough guy.

I had a rental car in Oregon, and once again a lifetime of pumping my own gas made some employee almost have a conniption as I reached for the pump. I did not care much as it was a rental.

I have pumped my own gas for so long it is just normal. It is nice Oregon finally figured out that of the 48 other states people pump their own gas with no issues. My mom used to prefer the one full service station as she had some disability issues that made pumping gas a chore she could skip.

pksystems 08-06-2023 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 12061385)
I can't believe normal functioning adults are concerned they can't pump their own gas. What do they imagine the rest of us do? wave the wand around standing in a puddle of gas?

Do those people worried about pumping their own gas also drive their cars on the street???? :rolleyes:

KFC911 08-06-2023 07:44 AM

Soooo.... just how much are ya supposed to tip Gomer for putting $75 worth in...

$10... nah ... mebbe 15?

To ensure they put the gas cap back on :D!

Baz 08-06-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12061457)
Soooo.... just how much are ya supposed to tip Gomer for putting $75 worth in...

$10... nah ... mebbe 15?

To ensure they put the gas cap back on :D!


I pumped gas part time back in the 80's here - weekends and some weekday evenings.

Don't remember ever getting tips. Nor did I expect any.

I also waited on tables part time and DID expect tips at that job.....

KFC911 08-06-2023 08:52 AM

I never waited tables (where a tip is expected ... and required ;)), but I bagged groceries and carried them out and placed the bags in their cars....

I think I got a .25 tip .... once :D

flatbutt 08-06-2023 08:53 AM

So, jersey stands alone. I still won't let anyone pump fuel into my bikes.

jyl 08-06-2023 09:23 AM

I’m definitely not happy about this. There will go thousands of jobs, and gas prices won’t fall but gas station franchise profits will go up. This is our state government doing an industry’s bidding and screwing the low wage workers. I never had a problem self-filling the 911.

Zeke 08-06-2023 10:02 AM

70 years ago IDT gas station operators wanted people to use the hose themselves.

917_Langheck 08-06-2023 10:24 AM

No freedom was won, but paying jobs were lost, and a pleasurable convenience will no longer be part of the experiential landscape.

Baz 08-06-2023 10:54 AM

Some people want to be as self sufficient as possible.

For example - I shop almost exclusively at Walmart because I can bag my own groceries.

To those who complain about job loss......why is it that a week doesn't go by I hear a local business owner say he/she can't get the help he/she needs?

Their are a LOT of jobs out there!

At least where I live in Florida, anyway.

WPOZZZ 08-07-2023 01:27 AM

Is New Jersey the only place left where you cannot pump yourself?

wilnj 08-07-2023 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 12061917)
Is New Jersey the only place left where you cannot pump yourself?


Yes. Is there anywhere else in the world where this is not allowed?


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VINMAN 08-07-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 12061917)
Is New Jersey the only place left where you cannot pump yourself?

Yep. That idiocy is still in play here. Only thing are allowed to pump ourselves is diesel.

What really pisses me off is, 3/4s of the lazy putz's in the state want it to stay that way.
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GH85Carrera 08-07-2023 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 917_Langheck (Post 12061565)
No freedom was won, but paying jobs were lost, and a pleasurable convenience will no longer be part of the experiential landscape.

I bet there will be stations open that let people have an option to do it themselves, or pay a bit more for someone else to do it. But is is stupid to make everyone pay for an employee to that is useless, and not needed. New Jersey will stand alone as likely the only place on the planet where customers HAVE to pay for someone to pump gas. It is like requiring a bag boy to take the groceries to the car and just adding his employment costs to the groceries.

I prefer to save the 10 cents or so per gallon to do it myself. All over town are businesses begging for employees to show up for work every day. Jobs are easy to find.

Norm K 08-07-2023 08:38 AM

If your time is valuable to you, you should appreciate the ability to pump your own fuel, vs waiting for an unmotivated pump jockey to finally make his way to your car.

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Dantilla 08-07-2023 08:46 AM

Stations are required to have an attendant available for those who do not want to pump themselves.
Price must be the same as self serve.

Giving people the option is good.
I'm not worried about jobs lost. There are Help Wanted signs all over town.

Tobra 08-07-2023 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 917_Langheck (Post 12061565)
No freedom was won, but paying jobs were lost, and a pleasurable convenience will no longer be part of the experiential landscape.

They are not making full service illegal, what are you talking about? Freedom to not have some monkey spill fuel on my vehicle's paint or lean up against it while they are standing there doing nothing.

GH85Carrera 08-07-2023 08:52 AM

Are the gas stations open 24-7 in Oregon? I honestly don't know and I really don't care.

There is a station near me that is a locally owned chain, the pumps are on and pay at the pump works 24/7 365. Again, I don't really care, as I am almost never up past 11:00 PM. It is nice to know that if an emergency came up, and I needed gas at 3:00 AM, it is available.

Dantilla 08-07-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12062103)
Are the gas stations open 24-7 in Oregon? I honestly don't know and I really don't care.

For quite a while, the rural counties in eastern Oregon have had 24 hour self-serve.
Just because of this concern- doesn't make sense to pay an attendant to be there at 3am, but somebody may need to fill up.

I occasionally travel through parts of Oregon, and always fill up on the east side to avoid having to wait for somebody else (who may not care if the nozzle dings my paint) fill the car.

So self serve has been legal in rural counties, but not the populous ones. Does that make any sense?
I applaud this (rare) bit of common sense from Oregon.

GH85Carrera 08-07-2023 10:20 AM

From what was in local newspaper article, the self service is available, and the attendant service is available, and there is ZERO price difference by LAW. So even though the attendant can just sit there, the self service folks have to pay for him to sit and watch. Yea, that makes sense.

In the real world, when people could save several bucks per tank to pump it themselves, yea, almost everyone went to self service. If there is no price difference, less incentive for the average driver of a beater.

flatbutt 08-07-2023 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 12061998)
Yep. That idiocy is still in play here. Only thing are allowed to pump ourselves is diesel.

What really pisses me off is, 3/4s of the lazy putz's in the state want it to stay that way.
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True that but, my local guys don't even try to fill my MC.

masraum 08-08-2023 06:44 PM

I remember way back when I was a kid seeing that some gas stations had mixed lanes. Some lanes (usually closer to the building) were full service, and some were self service. I don't remember the last time that I saw one. I do think that I had a rental car in NJ once that shocked me when I found out I couldn't pump my own gas.

If I was in OR, I'd be pretty happy about this.

GH85Carrera 08-09-2023 08:08 AM

There was a small family owned gas station just a couple of blocks from my old place of work. It had just two pumps, and the side closest to the building was full service, the street side was self service. My grandmother drove the extra two miles to have them pump her gas, wash the windshield that was always dusty as she only drove to the grocery store or church, or to get gas. They checked her tire pressure, and she loved the attention. That same place had an oil change bay, so she had her oil changed there every 12 months.

My mom used them as well when she started having mobility issues after her 4th hip replacement.

herr_oberst 08-09-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12063373)

If I was in OR, I'd be pretty happy about this.

I'd be happy if the price of gas came down with the new law, but it's not. So I'm not.

#cashgrab. :mad:

mikehinton 08-09-2023 09:22 AM

I could be mistaken, but my experience in OR was that a motorcycle rider was always permitted to pump his/her own fuel.

stevej37 08-09-2023 04:22 PM

I was in Long Island, NY a few years back and stopped for gas. I hooked the hose up and was looking for the card reader when a guy came running out to me and yelling to stop.

Apparently they still have the 'no fueling by customer' law.

pwd72s 08-09-2023 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12063662)
I'd be happy if the price of gas came down with the new law, but it's not. So I'm not.

#cashgrab. :mad:

I have a strong suspicion that the wonderful Oregon legislature had a hand in the latest sudden price hike...might be wrong tho...did the state gas tax just take a jump?

herr_oberst 08-09-2023 05:23 PM

I don't know what the legislature did or didn't do regarding the price of gas, but I just got back from Boise where gas was under 4 bucks a gallon everywhere I went. The good news is that I got to practice pumping my own and making sure I didn't drive off with the gas cap sitting on the pump.


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