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pwd72s 08-22-2023 06:41 PM

2024 Mustang crash reason explained
 
Driver distracted by the dash...absolutely nightmarish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNeM1VNuZKg&ab_channel=SamAbuelsamid

Jeff Higgins 08-22-2023 07:13 PM

I cannot believe that our illustrious "safety police" even allow these touch screen interfaces. One must, by default, take one's eyes off the road to touch and scroll through the menus and commands. Ingrained, systemic, built-in "distracted driving". Give me tactile knobs and buttons and levers, thank you very much, when my primary responsibility is driving. I don't want to be forced to take my eyes off of the road to manipulate something that I must see rather than feel.

ramonesfreak 08-22-2023 07:16 PM

I hate how the new Mustang GT has this. I considered getting one until I saw that. I hate it in BMW too. I don’t mind it for some reason in the AMG cars…seems to fit with the overall interior look in the AMG I guess

I have no issue with digital displays like in the 992 and other Porsches and even VW. Porsche designed it well and it looks integrated like it belongs, not like a glued on iPad

At least some makers like Audi still include a few buttons…Mazda too

sc_rufctr 08-22-2023 07:46 PM

Video screen(s) instead of analogue gauges? No thanks.

pwd72s 08-22-2023 09:12 PM

Laws against using cell phones while driving, which I agree with. But this is okay? I just don't get it. But then, I'm just a crusty old bastid who thinks fondly of analog dashes filled with black & white stewart-warner gauges giving information on the vehicle's operation.

Maybe today's young folks think it's cool to go all touch screen with star trek graphics?

ramonesfreak 08-23-2023 04:00 AM

No I don’t think that’s it. The best example is the gen 7 GTI vs the gen 8 GTI (or Golf R) While much of the criticism of the mk8 is overblown, the general impression is that fans of the car are upset. Having to navigate several digital menu screens in order to adjust hvac is frustrating and dangerous and the people have spoken loudly against it

The fact is VW is moving to all electric and the digital controls are deemed more appropriate and also cut costs across the product line because almost every model is now using the same screen and tech…..I think it is the manufacturer’s intention that you control all features via voice control….I haven’t seen any car maker get this right yet and until they do, these digital screens will remain a source of danger and frustration

Can it look ok and be useful? Yea. I love what McLaren does with it and the new lotus emira (last ICE lotus), etc….

GH85Carrera 08-23-2023 06:09 AM

I suspect the digital dash is just to keep the new young drivers that grew up with digital technology and can't go 5 minutes without looking at their phones.

The Teslas have a HUGE center console screen. Almost every car now has a touch screen.

It is a problem and we can only hope more accident preventing tech will follow. Automatic braking and lane hold will help. I see cars swerving out of their lanes all the time, so fool driver is busy texting or reading email. It is worse than drunk driving.

flatbutt 08-23-2023 06:32 AM

One day there won't even be a steering wheel. All input will be thru some kind of digital interface.

1990C4S 08-23-2023 06:43 AM

The motive couldn't be cost saving, could it? Never, not possible. Not in automotive.

The sad part is, this is easy to fix. A couple of knobs (radio, HVAC temp. wipers) cover the vast majority of the day-to-day functions.

I hate new cars. The dash on my brother's A6, and his 911 are totally distracting. Honda has a temperature adjustment where a 'normal' car would have a volume knob. This crap is sold as 'improvements' to driving.

A digital dash is not a problem, lots of them are very good (and customizable), but the embedded functions in a tree menu are garbage.

berettafan 08-23-2023 06:46 AM

Hate those dashes. So friggin cheap looking. Like somebody bought a 'panysonik' at the swap meet and screwed it to their dash with some L brackets from the hardware store. Just awful.

Also hate not having dials for the distraction issue mentioned. Noted that in the Tesla it is very distracting to do just about anything other than steer.

911 Rod 08-23-2023 06:48 AM

Crash?

Superman 08-23-2023 06:54 AM

For the longest time, Porsches were manufactured without cupholders. Designers did not want to encourage drinking and driving. Seriously.

john70t 08-23-2023 09:24 AM

The rpm/speedo dash can be automatically switched over during burnouts to 10 gauges displaying individual tire temp, wheel slip, traction control applied to each wheel, pending emails, IMs received, upvote likes/dislikes ratio, number of potential pedestrians in proximity.

masraum 08-23-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 12074023)
The rpm/speedo dash can be automatically switched over during burnouts to 10 gauges displaying individual tire temp, wheel slip, traction control applied to each wheel, pending emails, IMs received, upvote likes/dislikes ratio, number of potential pedestrians in proximity.

ROFLMAO!

I rented an Audi several years back. It was probably a 2017 or 2018. It had, IIRC, 2 round "guages". One of the gauges was, I think, an analogue tachometer, and the other was a speedo. I think you could customize the space between the gauges and the bottom half of the gauge on the right (or maybe the whole thing). It wasn't bad, although I'm not sure I'd want to own one when it goes bad which in eventually will.

https://cars.usnews.com/static/image...entcluster.jpg

flipper35 08-23-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 12073898)
Hate those dashes. So friggin cheap looking. Like somebody bought a 'panysonik' at the swap meet and screwed it to their dash with some L brackets from the hardware store. Just awful.

Also hate not having dials for the distraction issue mentioned. Noted that in the Tesla it is very distracting to do just about anything other than steer.

This. I hate the pop up screens with a normal dash. This is even more hideous. If I wanted an interior that makes me vomit I would get a Tesla Model 3.

masraum 08-23-2023 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 12074218)
This. I hate the pop up screens with a normal dash. This is even more hideous. If I wanted an interior that makes me vomit I would get a Tesla Model 3.

Yep, this sort of thing, where it looks like the hot glued an iPad or small monitor to the middle of the dash, is horrible. Some designer somewhere should get kicked in the nuts for this, repeatedly.

https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content...ouchscreen.jpg

Racerbvd 08-23-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12074296)
Yep, this sort of thing, where it looks like the hot glued an iPad or small monitor to the middle of the dash, is horrible. Some designer somewhere should get kicked in the
A nuts for this, repeatedly.

https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content...ouchscreen.jpg

What if the designer "identifies " as non binary or as a woman?
Do you still kick him in the nutz?

Zeke 08-23-2023 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12073900)
Crash?

What? You expected a thread to go straight? :D


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