Sorry Milt .... but this story gets even worse...

The service GSD (of 5 years) was pictured with his saddle/sign: "Service Dog / Please Pet Me" (that he might not have been wearing at home tho), but obviously a VERY socialized dog.

The county "Rescue Squad" worker, got out of his truck (responding to a 911 call for the owner's brother), PETTED the dog, and then a minute later shot &:killed the dog "in fear of his life" :(.

The owner is devastated .... could be any of us.... just sux.

He's been charged with animal cruelty which is a misdemeanor.

https://www.wxii12.com/article/north-carolina-davie-county-rescue-squad-member-kills-service-dog/44883344#

Davie County Animal Services conducted an investigation, which resulted in Logan Cartner, 27, of Mocksville, being charged with one count of misdemeanor cruelty to animals.

https://law.justia.com/codes/north-carolina/2022/chapter-14/article-47/section-14-360/

I wonder how/ if this impacts his carry license.

The Rescue Squad worker was in violation of state law by carrying (open or concealed) while responding to an emergency call also. He's still employed as of now :(.

Another news site (WFMY) has a more in-depth story (I can't cut & paste), ... he petted the dog at the door of the house, and shot the dog inside the home. Another veteran RS spokesman is commenting too .... worth reading.

The POS needs to be in jail ...

i am here for the wanting to prosecute cops for shooting dogs widespread support here.

now lets do people.

This is an interesting documentary covering the subject of cops killing dogs. It's really tough to watch. I don't think I even got halfway through before I had to shut it off.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4460258/

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T_cpvHrdvV8/maxresdefault.jpg



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Whoever said cops are immune was wrong. Maybe WRT animals, IDK.
I don't read news about cops. It's never informative.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1692890976.jpg
Back in the day we used this.

yup. esp if its a cop who is talking.

Are you sure it said, "Service Dog / Please Pet Me?" The ones I've seen say the opposite, "Service Dog / Please DO NOT Pet Me."

This seems like a situation where if you have a hammer every problem looks like a nail.

I was an appliance repairman for a summer during college and a part time delivery guy for the rest of the year. I've walked up to lots of houses and been approached by many dogs. I didn't have a gun, so I had to show a little courage if I was concerned for my safety. Cops - they have guns, "Oh, I'm a little nervous" BLAMMM!!

How long do you feel it's worth spending time in jail for assaulting someone that killed your dog?
1 year?
5 years?
25 years?

No doubt I’ll earn the ire of many “dog people” here. And, no, I don’t condone the shooting of the dog that this thread is about. But I really struggle with the idea of people assaulting and killing other people over dogs ( or any other animal). Have had many dogs ( currently Everest, an awesome Great Pyrenees) . They are well treated, loved, part of the family. But they are dogs . Not people. If someone killed my wife, or my daughter, I could imagine myself possessed with murderous rage. If someone killed my dog? I’d be pissed, and want them prosecuted with whatever law was appropriate but I couldnt see myself wishing them dead.

I would not be spending any time in jail.


The other guy, it would take at least a month for him to die after my wife got a hold of him.

WTF is a rescue squad anyway?

it is odd that folks will jump to brag about the torture they would inflict on someone who killed a dog, but praise that same person for killing people.

i personally think its insecurity. need to be the toughest guy, who loves his dog the most or whatever. you see this a lot around SA talk too. when of course, the person most likley to SA a woman ... is the man she is partnered with.

You may be correct Patrick.... it was on the local news as I was drinking coffee with the help of my Lab. It might have been the way the pic was shown, etc. I know you are correct on service dogs (blind, etc.), but this was an emotional support dog.... and I could have misread it. Evidently the dog was well known and loved by all .... a real sweetie. Regardless of what it said.... it was "socialized" .... that's for sure... not an aggressive one.

I would not be "feeling" anything but pure rage .... somebody pulls a gun out kills my dog, inside of my house.... all bets are off.

EMT types .... particularly in the more rural counties here they are still called Rescue Squads.

I wonder when you typed that - you understood why we feel the way we do.....

They are not people.

Says it all right there....

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People know what they are doing. The are responsible for themselves and their actions.
Dogs run on natural instinct. They don't know any better .

Yes, Vinny.

I use the phrase "The Innocents" - these are the animals, the very young, the elderly, and the impaired.

I advocate for The Innocents - because they need and more importantly DESERVE our protection.

Everyone else is on their own as far as I'm concerned......

Lots of animals are emotionally intelligent. I wonder how this thread would have played out if the title was 'my cat' instead.

Byron? Care to answer?

Most dogs are better than most people. It might be a character flaw, but I’m far more exercised about a dog getting shot by a cop in 99% of cases.

It would have been one post. Cats are meh.

Yes, Milt.

I use the phrase "The Innocents" - these are the animals, the very young, the elderly, and the impaired.

I advocate for The Innocents - because they need and more importantly DESERVE our protection.

Everyone else is on their own as far as I'm concerned......

Lets keep things in generic terms of "what would you do?"
Was the dog running loose without a collar or tag? Has the dog threatened you while on your private property?
If these were the case, then my answer would be "Blame myself for not doing what was supposed to do as the owner"

+1
Animals are comforting companions to many people but they are not people.
Along those lines, I've heard Internet Rambos say they would shoot someone for scratching their beloved sports car. Really?

Since this whole thread was troll bait, lets really let loose: who did the dog vote for in the last election?

I agree. I also think that if your one of those people that think dogs are better then most people, you really need to be around better people. For what it's worth, we have two dogs....

You would know a "troll bait" thread because you start PLENTY of them imo .... always with political overtones ;).

I started this thread after seeing it on the news, and wondered how I would react if in that situation.... nothing more, nothing less.

You seem to imply the owner was "negligent" here .... total BS.

This thread might be considered "trolling" .... fair enough... but certainly not my intent.

I don't think I brought up "shooting or killing" someone .... but if someone killed my dog, in my house, my rage would probably kick in. Some "buttons" are better left "unpushed" .... and you can bet that killing my dog in that way would be a test.

I honestly don't know how I would react ...

I'm done with this thread now .... it worked .... I caught me a "Joe".... and it's a nice one :)!

Move it, delete it, whatever .... I'm not alone in how I would react ....

Nah....you are not trolling and it's a fantastic thread, KC.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions here.

Including Joe.

On the topic of "Man's Best Friend" - I would take my dogs (RIP) over any human I've ever known. And I've known some mighty fine people.

YMMV......

She would aim low
Tourniquet friendly maiming
Might even feed them

Is a dog's life more valuable than a coyote's life?

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What you've done there is to begin the discussion of whether an animal can be destructive or not. First thing I thought of is rats.

So whether an animal is destructive or not becomes the line that you will or will not cross, or you decide case by case. It almost boils down to the hunt and kill for food vs for the trophy.

You enter into a moral and ethical dichotomy. Now I think of deer and thinning of the herd. This is not a meaningful event for me as we have no deer here.

We do have rats. It would be easy for some to say, "Oh, no, don't kill Bambi." To others deer are just big rats. Logic gets fuzzy.

Or a bacon, for that matter.

No. We used to get up to $120.00 for a decent coyote hide.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1692983162.jpg

Haha. So if one follows, a dog is worth <$120.

Hmmm... I dunno, I see certain breeds around here ("doodles" are very popular these days) fetching $2,000-$3,000 for a pup. Crazy money for a dog, at least to me.

I love my dog. I wouldn’t go to prison over his murder. I’d hope the law would be on my side.

My brother is SWAT. He has one guy that brings rib bones. H says it’s 100%. Successful. He said if bad guys get chihuahuas as watched dogs, game over. They had to shoot one dog once and it troubled him. Big time.

I hope this never happens to us. Some of your answers I would hate to see tested.