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A930Rocket 09-10-2023 12:01 PM

Clogged drain? Where to start?
 
Our daughter texted me and said there is water underneath her washing machine and the kitchen sink is backing up with dirty water.

I’m guessing the house is about 25 to 30 years old and they’ve been there about a year.

From the picture, you can see they pulled the washing machine out to dry underneath it. Would you say the water is going from the wash machine towards the kitchen sink and potentially clog down line from there?

The garage is to the far right, so I have to think it’s going from the washing machine towards the kitchen sink.

Everything else, seems to be functioning OK.

Would you try chemicals to try unclogging it or running a snake? With a P-trap at the kitchen sink and the washing machine, would a snake work?

I didn’t take the picture!😂

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stevej37 09-10-2023 12:15 PM

Washing machine discharges water very fast...if there is a slight clog down-stream it will back up.

There is a p-trap at the washing machine?

A930Rocket 09-10-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12086440)
Washing machine discharges water very fast...if there is a slight clog down-stream it will back up.

There is a p-trap at the washing machine?

If it was built to code, there is a P-trap. Otherwise, you would get sewer gases.

look 171 09-10-2023 12:23 PM

There better be a P trap for the washing machine. That looks like a newer house so it is usually in wall. Snake it from there. I bet is lint along with a combination of other stuff like fat and food that cause the clog. Again, it may not be that depending if the kitchen drains before the washing machine or not. Often there's not enough water to flush toilet paper down into the main stack so it get stuck and cause all kinds of trouble. You need to snake the drain. Time to call the smell good Plumber (Radio commercial joke around here).

pmax 09-10-2023 12:27 PM

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masraum 09-10-2023 12:29 PM

I wouldn't bother with chemicals. I'd go for a snake. I assume the drain for the washer is easy to get to, so I'd probably start the snake there. I'm sure the kitchen sink and washer are on the same drain line, so whatever is blocking one is also blocking the other. Starting at the washer seems like it would put the snake closer to the clog. I never bother with the cheap, short snakes. I always go with something like the following. I look for the sleeve at the front that's got the thumb screw to be metal, and I look for something that's 25'. I know there is better, more heavy duty stuff, but that's always worked for me and if it didn't, I figure it's better to call in a pro.

https://image.made-in-china.com/202f...Auger-Tool.jpg

masraum 09-10-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 12086450)

I tried one of those long ago. It was too short and too big a pain to use (compared to the one in my post above).

stevej37 09-10-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12086444)
If it was built to code, there is a P-trap. Otherwise, you would get sewer gases.


A difference in plumbing...my washing machine doesn't discharge into the sewer line.
I have a septic tank system and a grey water discharge for the wm....no p-trap on it.

A930Rocket 09-10-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12086451)
I wouldn't bother with chemicals. I'd go for a snake. I assume the drain for the washer is easy to get to, so I'd probably start the snake there. I'm sure the kitchen sink and washer are on the same drain line, so whatever is blocking one is also blocking the other. Starting at the washer seems like it would put the snake closer to the clog. I never bother with the cheap, short snakes. I always go with something like the following. I look for the sleeve at the front that's got the thumb screw to be metal, and I look for something that's 25'. I know there is better, more heavy duty stuff, but that's always worked for me and if it didn't, I figure it's better to call in a pro.

https://image.made-in-china.com/202f...Auger-Tool.jpg


I see Lowes has one that is similar and uses a drill. Plus, a self powered snake.


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look 171 09-10-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12086452)
I tried one of those long ago. It was too short and too big a pain to use (compared to the one in my post above).

What is that thing, a jump rope? Rent the med size snake from HD or a home center and get that thing in there to clean our any other potential clogs. Do it once and they are good for a long time.

look 171 09-10-2023 12:52 PM

Get a chemical with sulfuric acid in it to burn all the grease or hair away. I use it all the time. It takes some time for the acid to burning away any metal unless the cast iron pipes is 100 years old. It cleans traps really , really well in baths and kitchens. I leave it for 10- no more then 15 min. It heats up the trap way while its doing it job. Flush with water for 15 min. Done. Don't poour that stuff in your garbage disposal.

pmax 09-10-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12086452)
I tried one of those long ago. It was too short and too big a pain to use (compared to the one in my post above).

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 12086462)
What is that thing, a jump rope? Rent the med size snake from HD or a home center and get that thing in there to clean our any other potential clogs. Do it once and they are good for a long time.

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hughc 09-10-2023 01:06 PM

I'm assuming the drain from the kitchen sink and washer join at some point. I had a similar problem two weeks ago where the drain from the kitchen sink and the sink in the nearby washroom were both backing up. In my basement (under the kitchen floor) I was able to see where these drain pipes joined onto the main drain pipe. (The large 5"pipe) Fortunately I was able to separate the sink drains from
the large drain pipe. The pipes were clogged at that point and I am assuming it was mainly from too much use of the garbarator and not enough flushing afterwards. Regardless, it was plugged so with a couple of tools ( 12" pry bar and snake) I was able to clear most of it away. I poured a generous amount of draino into that joint area and let it sit for 30 min or so.
Screwed it all back together, flushed it all with copious amounts of boiling water and it hasn't given a problem since.
In retrospect I suspect somebody is pouring a bit too much fat or bacon grease thru the garborator.
BTW, my house is over 70 yrs so plugged pipes can be expected.

masraum 09-10-2023 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 12086465)

the one that I got was shorter and much cheaper. That looks like a decent quality part. It still looks like a pain to use, and potentially messier than when the snake is contained in a drum.

look 171 09-10-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12086472)
the one that I got was shorter and much cheaper. That looks like a decent quality part. It still looks like a pain to use, and potentially messier than when the snake is contained in a drum.

Get that puppy stuck deep in there, have fun getting it out. I like the drum with an electric motor and a foot switch so both hands can be used to guide the snake through. Again, I haven't done stuff like that for a very long time. I call my plumber. Easier and cleaner.

A930Rocket 09-10-2023 01:46 PM

She wants me to swing by the house on our way to our friends house for dinner…

I don’t have any of the tools to do the job, so I’m not sure what I can do at this point.

If they cannot get it unclogged, I’ll call my plumber.

Rusty Heap 09-10-2023 02:21 PM

Picture of Daughter?

masraum 09-10-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 12086473)
Get that puppy stuck deep in there, have fun getting it out. I like the drum with an electric motor and a foot switch so both hands can be used to guide the snake through. Again, I haven't done stuff like that for a very long time. I call my plumber. Easier and cleaner.

I saw someone use one of those big foot switch models once. Those are the shizzle! I could never justify the cost.
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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12086487)
She wants me to swing by the house on our way to our friends house for dinner…

I don’t have any of the tools to do the job, so I’m not sure what I can do at this point.

If they cannot get it unclogged, I’ll call my plumber.

Right, even if you had a 25' snake, do you really want to get that nasty on the way to dinner?
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Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 12086520)
Picture of Daughter?

ROFLMAO!

vash 09-10-2023 03:47 PM

Anything else backing up? I would open the sewer cleanup and verify there is flow. The washing machine might be the last thing downstream and it just backed up first.

look 171 09-10-2023 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12086487)
She wants me to swing by the house on our way to our friends house for dinner…

I don’t have any of the tools to do the job, so I’m not sure what I can do at this point.

If they cannot get it unclogged, I’ll call my plumber.

Make sure you wash your hands before you eat. You know what they say the three things plumbers know? Siht flows down hill, Friday is pay day and do not bite your finger nails.


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