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rfuerst911sc 11-25-2023 05:39 AM

Thoughts on this Cayenne GTS
 
This one has been on CL for about a month . Original asking price was 14.5k so they have dropped 2k . Sure looks clean . Is a 4 owner a red flag ? Says clean title/Carfax . What do you guys think ?

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ctd/d/matthews-2009-porsche-cayenne-gts/7690975209.html

Scott Douglas 11-25-2023 08:49 AM

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ctd/d/matthews-2009-porsche-cayenne-gts/7690975209.html

Your link didn't work without copying.
Just trying to help.

sc_rufctr 11-25-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12139066)
... What do you guys think ?

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Great looking truck & all that but I wouldn't consider anything like this without a warranty.

Shaun @ Tru6 11-25-2023 09:41 AM

Cayennes are all about service history. If it doesn't have one, take $2K off that new price and save that for potential repairs. I've found my 2010 GTS very easy to work on and parts aren't that expensive but there is a long list of known issues on these trucks.

I still consider a 957 Cayenne GTS to be the ultimate "if I could only have one car"...

rfuerst911sc 11-25-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 12139176)
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ctd/d/matthews-2009-porsche-cayenne-gts/7690975209.html

Your link didn't work without copying.
Just trying to help.

Since I got this Samsung phone when I copy links they never post as " live " . But just on Pelican . Other forums it works fine . Not sure why . But thanks for the heads up .

masraum 11-25-2023 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12139263)
Since I got this Samsung phone when I copy links they never post as " live " . But just on Pelican . Other forums it works fine . Not sure why . But thanks for the heads up .

Pelican is, I think, older software that was pretty heavily customized so it doesn't work like modern BBS software.

greglepore 11-24-2025 05:02 PM

Reviving an old thread. Looking at a local 09 GTS, 180 k , just had driveshaft, trans valve body and coolant pipes done, rotors, pads. Looks nice. 7k. Really tempted.

Have a 96 s600 Benz that would have to go. Its a dream car, but many parts are out of production, and while its been stellar its a ticking clock. The Cayenne is almost 2x the mileage but its 10 years newer and variants still in production so parts likely easier.

Thoughts? Shaun?

Shaun @ Tru6 11-25-2025 03:15 AM

Greg, I'm at 170K now and as I've posted many times, absolutely love the truck with 40K miles put on it. Parts are relatively cheap and easy to get.

$7K is very very low for an 09 GTS and is probably twice the price of the valve body replace/repair job so I'd be careful. A $300 quality PPI would be the best money you'd spend on it.

Have you driven it? You will want to buy it if you do.

greglepore 11-25-2025 05:04 AM

I'm going over next week. Retired guy, seems straight shooter. Has a mechanic friend that's done a fair amt of the work, suspect I can reach out. He initially had it on CL for 10k but no bites. I agree its stupid low. I'm also sure it has lurking issues, but what vehicle at that mileage doesn't...

rfuerst911sc 11-25-2025 06:14 AM

In my opinion bore scoring and transfer case are the two big $$$ hitters . After that air suspension if so equipped . After that it's all normal maintenance on a high mileage euro car . Also check if plastic coolant pipes under the intake manifold have been replaced with aluminum . Good luck

greglepore 11-25-2025 06:32 AM

Coolant pipes done. All cv axles recently done. I know bore scoring can be an issue but supposedly less so on 09 forward. It does have air suspension but I can deal-Arnott or similar.

Is the gas mileage as bad as reported? I'm seeing 12-13 around town and under 20 hwy?

Shaun @ Tru6 11-25-2025 06:58 AM

You will want to keep the air suspension, it's part of what makes a GTS and Turbo special. Very special. Rebuilt units are pretty cheap. Mine are still good but won't think twice if one or more go bad.

Gas mileage is horrendous. 13 around town and 17 on the highway. I get 15-16 doing 80 most of the time.

As a second vehicle, gas mileage is worth it.

greglepore 11-25-2025 07:22 AM

Yeah, I'd keep the air. My Benz's have ads, which is the adaptive hyd suspension and it is special.

greglepore 12-11-2025 06:23 AM

Just to close the loop, I bought the thing. Haven't picked it up, it went straight to an indy as it needed motor mounts. Doing those, trans mount, diff and transaxle fluids. $6500 for the vehicle, 1600 for the repair and 1200 for a set of tires. It has had coolant pipes, cv axles, trans valve body, driveshaft and jxb support bearing, battery just done.
Interior is remarkable for a car with close to 200k.
The indy is a good guy, young, motivated. Pay for parts up front, $100 hr actual time. He provides a labor guarantee. Good find. He's got a following among the local exotic community, does a lot of 996/7 turbos and gt cars. I still do a lot of my own work but at 66 and with old injuries I don't care much for heavy mechanical work in the winter.

Scott Douglas 12-11-2025 09:17 AM

Greg - Color?

Shaun @ Tru6 12-11-2025 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 12576802)
Just to close the loop, I bought the thing. Haven't picked it up, it went straight to an indy as it needed motor mounts. Doing those, trans mount, diff and transaxle fluids. $6500 for the vehicle, 1600 for the repair and 1200 for a set of tires. It has had coolant pipes, cv axles, trans valve body, driveshaft and jxb support bearing, battery just done.
Interior is remarkable for a car with close to 200k.
The indy is a good guy, young, motivated. Pay for parts up front, $100 hr actual time. He provides a labor guarantee. Good find. He's got a following among the local exotic community, does a lot of 996/7 turbos and gt cars. I still do a lot of my own work but at 66 and with old injuries I don't care much for heavy mechanical work in the winter.

Congratulations! Pics when it comes back? What tires did you get?

I have to do all my fluids over Christmas break.

greglepore 12-11-2025 12:14 PM

https://scontent-atl3-3.xx.fbcdn.net...YA&oe=6940F5ED

Kind of a gunmetal silver. Not my fave, but at the price wasn't going to be choosy.
Conti dsw's for now. Tire Rack has some p zeros cheap at the moment but I hear bad things about Pirelli's and cold.

Shaun @ Tru6 12-11-2025 12:37 PM

I opened the link in the pelican email, that's meteor grey metallic, same color as mine, I had an 86 Carrera in this color 25 years ago. I like it a lot myself. Black or red or orange would be others I like.

Don't get Pirellis. I have them for my summer set and they suck compared with Michelins which are phenomenol. You have to take out a second mortgage for a set but worth it IMHO.

greglepore 12-11-2025 12:42 PM

Yeah, the Pilots seem to be loved, I have a difficult time justifying close to 2k installed, but if cost was no object I'd be there.
Is not a "bad" color, but the orange metalic is to die for.

Shaun @ Tru6 12-11-2025 12:50 PM

I just did a TireRack search and was expecting $1600 for a set, not $2K. Wow. My set of Michelins 3 years ago were $1200, Pirellis about the same a year ago.

Yes, the orange is fantastic.

rfuerst911sc 12-11-2025 02:42 PM

Maybe price out some Continental tires ? Dunlop or maybe Bridgestone ?

greglepore 12-11-2025 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12577062)
Maybe price out some Continental tires ? Dunlop or maybe Bridgestone ?

Ended up with Conti DSW at around 1300.

greglepore 12-12-2025 06:28 AM

While we're on the subject, is there a reasonably priced scan tool you guys like? I'm seeing some love for the Foxwell on the forums. I have a standalone MB Star for the Benz's but no Porsche OBD knowledge.

ben parrish 12-12-2025 11:41 AM

SCHWABEN is what i use for my 2011

greglepore 12-12-2025 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ben parrish (Post 12577395)
SCHWABEN is what i use for my 2011

Thanks. That's a rebranded Foxwell NT510, gets great reviews, has been superseded by the NT530. They're about $150, and its 80 bucks to add another make's software.
I'm leaning towards a NT 710 which is the same OS but with a tablet interface for about $50 more.

matthewb0051 12-12-2025 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 12576802)
Just to close the loop, I bought the thing. Haven't picked it up, it went straight to an indy as it needed motor mounts. Doing those, trans mount, diff and transaxle fluids. $6500 for the vehicle, 1600 for the repair and 1200 for a set of tires. It has had coolant pipes, cv axles, trans valve body, driveshaft and jxb support bearing, battery just done.
Interior is remarkable for a car with close to 200k.
The indy is a good guy, young, motivated. Pay for parts up front, $100 hr actual time. He provides a labor guarantee. Good find. He's got a following among the local exotic community, does a lot of 996/7 turbos and gt cars. I still do a lot of my own work but at 66 and with old injuries I don't care much for heavy mechanical work in the winter.


Nice to hear there is a Indy in Charlottesville. I was there in 2009/10 for my LLM and there was only the Dealer or at least that is all I could find. I had my 993 in for some service and they broke the front windscreen taking out the driver seat. Sheepish phone call to me fishing for me to absolve them, they were totally fishing for me to pay some or all. They ended up paying for the glass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 12576991)
Kind of a gunmetal silver. Not my fave, but at the price wasn't going to be choosy.
Conti dsw's for now. Tire Rack has some p zeros cheap at the moment but I hear bad things about Pirelli's and cold.

I will add to the bad comments about Pirelli. My Range Rover Sport recently had one fail with longitudinal separation. Wife was lucky to get to her father's house without a blowout.
When I replaced them, the guy at Discount Tire told me that Pirelli come with less tread from new. I went with Michelin instead. My new to me Panamara GTS came with a brand new set of Pirelli at a cost of about $2,000 so I'm not complaining too much.

Love that color!!!

greglepore 12-12-2025 12:36 PM

This guy is actually in Gordonsville. So is DAS now (of rollbar fame, but they do race prep and general work). My guy is young and not sure he has aircooled knowlege, but is good with the later stuff.
It amazes me how much Panamera you get for the $$'s. Its another temptation for me...

matthewb0051 12-12-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 12577428)
This guy is actually in Gordonsville. So is DAS now (of rollbar fame, but they do race prep and general work). My guy is young and not sure he has aircooled knowlege, but is good with the later stuff.
It amazes me how much Panamera you get for the $$'s. Its another temptation for me...

Yep. Mine is 2013, as new would have been north of $130k depending on addon stuff. I seriously can't imagine paying that for a car. IIRC, my first house was $115k.

The Land Rover dealer had it listed for $28k. I gave them my 996 and a small amount of money. Very happy. Me and 911s may have run our course together. The Panamera is great blend of power, road holding, and comfort. Just a scooch bigger than a 911 ;)

On a sad note: the 996 ended up at a buy here pay here lot on the wrong side of town. I really don't think there is a buyer in that market and it will suffer. I feel bad almost like it was my kid or dog


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