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Best high temp gloves & heating a platen+jig

I need a combination of high temp, 500ºF, handling of steel and aluminum parts coupled with reasonable dexterity. I have a set of knit gloves with silicone spots/stripes all over them and even though they got good ratings on Amazon, they aren't great for even 400ºF and they might as well be mittens for dexterity.

Any recommendations on something you have used personally?

Secondary to this, if you had a heavy steel platen with heavy steel jig on it/attached to it that you take something out of the oven and put into the jig, how would you heat that to at least 400ºF sitting on a bench?

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These are the only two choices of gloves I have for bbq'ing, neither of which offer much in the way of dexterity, Shaun.
As for heating the platen, I'd use my bbq as it can reach 500*F faster than our oven can, but you'd have to use it outside I'd think to be safe.
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How big/what shape are the things being heated? Do you just need fine motor control/dexterity for clamping it in the jig or to actually get it out of the oven etc?

Wondering if a second plate w/ the fine clamping etc. could be used while cold, all goes in the heater, and then you can use tongs or some other grabbing tool to simply move to work bench and re-clamp the base there using larger handles, foot activated press, etc.
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We use something like these:

https://www.grainger.com/product/CHICAGO-PROTECTIVE-APPAREL-Knit-Gloves-Glove-Hand-Protection-42XN09

Not a lot of dexterity tho
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Wow! It costs real money to protect your hands to 600ºF
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Can you make a tool for handling the hot parts? Some welding gloves will take the 500F but pretty thick. How large is the jig and how heavy? Heat loss will be a problem possibly sit it on an outdoor propane burner. If it is smaller portable induction cooktop could work.
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Good stuff, thank you guys. David, those look good but about dexterity, do you think you could handle a SWB single decklid grille rib with them? 30" long strip of aluminum. Out of the oven and into a heated jig, clamping down sides of the rib in the jig to both straighten and shape.

I have thought of just using two heat guns on the jig. What I want to avoid is the heat sink jig sucking all the temp out of the rib so it doesn't form when compressed.

Steve, I am dismantling SWB grille ribs that are bent and wavy and nicked up. I made jig compress them and shape and hold them while I sand and polish to rounded rod profile at the top. If I could, I would have tooling made with locating pins that you put the rib in and sandwich it with particular tolerance and bake. I can't do that as nearly every rib is unique and the cost for tooling would well into 5 figures. So I made a modular jig that will work for all ribs.

500ºF ribs into a hot jig and clamping them down has been interesting to say the least and not repeatable against a caution vs. time metric.

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Can you make a tool for handling the hot parts? Some welding gloves will take the 500F but pretty thick. How large is the jig and how heavy? Heat loss will be a problem possibly sit it on an outdoor propane burner. If it is smaller portable induction cooktop could work.
I like the idea of two propane cooktop burners under a .5" thick steel platen that the jig is bolted to.
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The gloves we use are about 1/2" thick but relatively flexible. You can pick stuff up OK but you're not going to install a bolt or anything that small.
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OK, thank you.
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All of this talk about hot jigs...



I have some gloves similar to this that I've used when handling a goose in boiling water and in and out of the oven, but I have doubts about being able to handle 400-500º metal items for more than a few secs.

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I am thinking of a difference way to manage this process.
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I've got some no name white knit gloves that must be pure Nomex. Soft but nothing gets through. I could grap red hot metal but that will just damage and dirty up nice gloves. So I limit using them when I can't use tongs, etc. If I make a little temporary firebrick oven I can move the bricks at any time and feel nothing.

I think they may have come from a cooking store.
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Thanks Milt, I found these with a quick google search using nomex as a qualified.

https://www.grainger.com/product/1ZPP3?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAqNSsBhAvEiwAn_tmxdRXQhhp3BPlK_0C0V27 JTThOGH4mw-ulBpAr08z_xpmjNFYM8I5OhoCjksQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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I've been doing a lot of aluminum heating recently and I think that 480ºF might work just fine and I can always increase temp once in the jig.
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Dude, suck it up, bare hands, eventually the calluses will protect you.
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When I was cooking professionally, I could pick up a lot. These days, just average hot things, not really not.

I wish I could run current through the jig with a potentiometer to regulate temp.

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