CA Lawmaker Proposes Remote Speed Controls on All New Cars

[tdw28210]

California will always hold a warm place in our memories for my wife and I. A lot of truly good times in what is a truly beautiful state and some as recent as last year at Rennsport. But it is developments like this this that make it clear to us that we''ll likely never move back there.

https://abc7news.com/scott-wiener-speed-governors-pedestrian-safety-california-bills-streets-safer/14356386/

[tdw28210]

ONe point of clarity. The remote part may or may not be accurate. That aspect was of this bill was mentioned to me by a friend when we were discussing this, but we were also talking about how OnStar equipped vehicles apparently have this (or a similar remote "kill switch" function) that can be activated upon police request. I don't see it explicitly mentioned in this story link.

[Tobra]

Scott Weiner is a bit of pedo.

[wildthing]

We've got homelessness and exorbitant housing prices, but what the hell? We have empty bike lanes and now this.

[Zeke]

This is going to PARF eventually so I'll just start. We have many CA politicians that are whack jobs. They have no idea what residents want. Only what special interest groups are after and what you get next is a pork job.

The guy years ago that wanted all cars older than the 70's off the road was some jerk from the San Joaquin Valley. All he really knew about cars was that old POS vans were used to transport farm workers.

I think if you asked him what a cars and coffee was all about he'd look at you as if you had 3 eyes.

[Por_sha911]

Well, since Zeke started the thought...
Ah yes, Kalifornia. The land of the free (stuff for illegal aliens) and the home of the brave (shoplifters stealing a thousand dollars worth of stuff). There is no limit to what the creative communist agenda politicians can think to do.

[Noah930]

What an impending disaster.

1) Safety. The biggest problem on highways isn't speed. It's speed differential. So if you have people in older cars still cranking out 80 mph on the highway, and someone in a new car is limited to 65 mph, that speed differential is going to be a problem. Similar problem for on the street, though admittedly it'll be 50 mph vs 25 mph. I would predict that car crashes will go up because of this law. Well, at least until everyone's got a car built after 2027, which will inly take about 25 years here in California where cars don't rust.

2) Kill new car sales. Plenty of people will still buy new cars. But plenty will hang on to their older cars, thereby hurting new car sales. It's a bit like how the high end real estate market in LA tanked after the coty passed an extra tax (designed to fight homelessness) on residential sales over $5 mil.

[KNS]

I can't imagine it will pass, Noah makes a couple excellent points. Imagine trying to pass a slower vehicle on a two lane road and the passing lane is only a given distance (and there is opposite direction traffic you have thread between). Ten mph over the limit is not going to get you safely around the vehicle, especially if it's a tractor trailer.

The government has mandated a lot of additional safety technology in vehicles over the last 30 years. Some, like ABS has been very beneficial.

But now there is so much hi tech equipment crammed into a new car that it makes repairing what was a simple fender bender extremely expensive - one of the (many) reasons auto insurance is getting insanely expensive. At some point Govt needs to realize they're making vehicle ownership cost prohibitive.

[Eric 951]

weiner looks like he doesn't even know how to drive a car.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by KNS

At some point Govt needs to realize they're making vehicle ownership cost prohibitive.

Mostly walking populations with mass transit are fine for big cities, when it works that is, and only theoretically speaking. Tokyo and NYC are examples of how sustaining a personal vehicle infrastructure is less efficient whenever population density reaches a certain point. Many large population centers around the world eventually become highly segmented and localized. There are wealthy areas and poor areas. Business and residential. Meanwhile the government works to mix them all in a somewhat chaotic fashion.

Before that can happen several criteria must be fulfilled and sustained at all cost (ok wrong term). It must be safe for all citizens. It must have 24 hour coverage to all major centers nearby. It must be dependable. It must be maintainable. And it must be economical.

So what are the alternatives to personal gas vehicles? EV has a limited range, slow charging times, limited charger infrastructure, many different proprietary plugs, and the infrastructure is not up to snuff. Efficient micro-vehicles(KEI cars) are banned by the NHTSA despite the goverment not paying for insurance claims. Trains and traffic don't mix. Same with bicycles (but motorscooters are the defacto in many areas of the world). And the airlines are currently falling apart. The layout planning of the entire country has been entirely based around the personal vehicle ever since the 1920s.

So there really aren't any viable alternatives at this point in time. Creating new systems of transportation would overlap existing ones and be prohibitively expensive over time. Eliminating something that works now is highly detrimental without any more positive solutions available.

[Icemaster]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Well, since Zeke started the thought...
Ah yes, Kalifornia. The land of the free (stuff for illegal aliens) and the home of the brave (shoplifters stealing a thousand dollars worth of stuff). There is no limit to what the creative communist agenda politicians can think to do.

Visited lately? Genuine question from someone who moved here from Ohio.

[Icemaster]

It's not new, this guys one of the extreme wing nuts that reach for what to them is a brass ring forged from misguided intentions. There's not a lot of hope for something like this, Eric's points are spot on.

It reminds me of the Charger I rented to drive from LA to LV that was limited to 85 MPH by the rental company. I've never rented from them again.

There's a city councilmember in Sacramento that recently introduced a measure to ban tackle football for kids 12 and under, there were similar weird ass measure that were debated in the last place I lived that was a clear Red, occasionally purple state.

Despite what others want to paint it, California is equal parts shytehole and paradise as any other part of the country.