Finally found some ice to test on
 

Got to test out the new build pre-season... its pretty great. only some minor sawblade action, and not into the radiators, so we're good for now.

https://i.imgur.com/hvVOPX1.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/q6rPNjP.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/3yP6m7X.jpeg

sadly only another decade left of this hobby, climate change and all. maybe i will move up to canada, chase the ice. there is nothing in a car more fun than ice racing.

Oh hell yes, that looks fun !

More. Please. :D

Lots of fun. Where do you get those tires? In high school we used to hot rod around on a frozen lake. The ice was 28" deep.

Wow! Video in action please..

i build them.

Too much fun!

when i get some i will post.

you can watch me driving my other ice car here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y12Rbuj3E2M

Nice Miata video

How about one with the 996 with engine sound?

And how do you build the tires??? They look awesome.

they are a sharpened 5/16ths bolts and washer, drill the holes, thread them through with a little sealant, and put another washer and lock nut on the outside, tighten. ~180 per tire.

i make them for other people too. not cheaply lol

Looks like fun (not building the tires - the racing :D ) Looking forward to some videos!

:rolleyes:

I used to take my young family up to Glacier National Park pretty much every summer, starting when my two boys were old enough to not be a monstrous PIA on such a trip, so probably three and six years old. They are now 33 and 36 years old.

Every reader board in front of every glacier said, essentially, to enjoy them now, as they will be gone in ten years. Global warming, dontcha know. That was thirty years ago. I just took a motorcycle trip through Glacier last summer. All of the glaciers are still there. Smaller, but still there. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

No, he's right.

I live about 2 hours south of CP. We've had events on our lake for 40, maybe 50 years. In the late 80s - early 90s, we had IIRA ice races. Over two feet of ice on the lake. For the last 10 years or so it has been hit or miss. Last year, I think we got 3 or 4 rallycross events in. We don't need 2 feet for that. This year, nothing. No good ice. That may change next year, we might get enough ice to do a few events, but we'll never see 2 plus feet of ice again.

ive been doing this for 15 years, and i have start and end dates of the season records from every year. we loose about .6 days of raceable ice per year. the calendar and tape measure don't lie. same lake, same calendar, same tape measure.

the data is clear. we have lost nearly 10 days of raceable ice since i started.

im sorry, climate change is real. its not politics, its a calendar.

yup.

eventually it will become such short season, if it happens at all, that we'll have to stop running them locally. they will have to be up north of duluth pretty soon to even hold them. the pictures i took to start the thread are north of duluth.

https://imgur.com/WexI90g.jpg

keep in mind, this is raceable ice, not ice coverage. basically days of 16+ inches of ice on one lake. we loose .6 days of raceable ice per year. the lake the chart is for measured 9-12 last weekend, and the 10 day for cast doesn't have a below 32 high. there is a good chance that 2024 is 0 days of raceable ice on that lake.

FYI, if we do get zero days of ice, the average ice loss per year jumps to 1.5 days.

so, its not only happening, its getting worse.

anyone else disappointed Jeff "im going to tell the guys who measure this stuff every year, and would love any extra extra days of good ice they could find, that they are wrong, based on a casual interaction with a sign at a national park years ago, that he doubted, for an unknown reason" Higgins didn't come back?



FYI ice reports from even farther north are indicating no raceable ice.

1. I applaud you for using your car to have fun.

2. Zero disappointment. No one will be changing their opinion based on this thread.

As a kid I used to build an outdoor ice rink that lasted months, usually December into March. Now it's typically a week or two of weather that's cold enough to make a rink.

Looks like a lot of fun and a great way to use a Porsche.

Coming from the warmer climes I am not familiar with the terminology - what does "sawblade action" mean in this context? It doesn't sound good, that I know.

I guess he puts that into the context of sawdust as he mentions clogged radiators.

when you attach hundreds of sharpened bolts to your tires, and they become sawblades.

and yes, you can articulate the suspension all you want without the spring and convince yourself it clears everything ... but that doesn't actually catch everything. bushing deflection, tire deflection, bump stop travel etc ... you almost always end up with something touching.

and with the 996 radiators being right there in front of the front wheels, thats a very dangerous part to put right there.

Isn't going sideways in a full drift fun? Your not the first on to run 911 around here on the ice. I always wondered what a Lindorfer would do to an oil cooler when it go thrown out.

Media from this weekend, using a new 360 degree camera ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3_qt4g7z1g

Ice tracing this past weekend in Aspen.
Check out the BBi Motorsport cars

That is way cool! Was the video from a drone that was programmed to follow the Subaru? Or with somebody controlling the drone?

its a 360 degree camera on a pole.

That looks like so much fun and nice driving. Damn. Thx for the video.

i've done just about every kind of am racing there is to do, and won or podiumed in all of it, including ice racing.

and i can hand on my heart tell you ... there is no better driving than ice driving. there is nothing more fun than ice driving. pack of 15 miatas into 3 at road america? not as much fun as ice driving.