usually its about getting the oil pick up tube deeper so that the oil can slosh farther before starving the system.

added capacity is maybe a minor benefit to oil temps, but not the main point.

IDK, as the 987.2 has two oil pumps is what I have read.
Way different the the 987.1
Too bad they strayed from a real dry sump system

That is my understanding, Mr Higgins

We could say Porsche has already thought of this??
....LOL
Looking at their resume from the past , they have way more than their share of mistakes, and more than willing to hide them.

They are getting harder and harder to find, even out here in CA where there are dime and a dozen P cars. 987.2s are the cheaper versions of the latest flat six. No one wants the turbo 4 it seem, therefore the value has gone up and the best bang for the buck. Keep looking, they are out there and the best way to find them is to contact some of the local wrenches. They always know someone who is getting rid of one or upgrade.

Someone here bought a BMW from socal through a BMW shop (M shop) and drove it home. I haven't heard anything good or bad from that individual. No news is good news?

Yup, my reasoning too!
I dont want a 4 banger even if they bolt two turbos on the thing.
Tis another bad mostake from Porsche just to keep sales up for their 911 or whatever it is called now

I have a 981 Cayman with a PDK. Interesting article about PDK repair: https://www.brrperformance.com/porsche-pdk-transmission-now-repairable/

Yes i have read it.

I dont think that adventure is for me.
They told me to count on 10K for a repair, Plus the stamp.
The price might be less, depending on what the problem(s) are.

I think the turbo 4s are all about fuel economy, maybe emissions, and possibly cost. I think the moderns turbo cars (Porsche and everyone else) are able to get better mileage in the official tests than a large NA motor. I think that save on things like gas guzzler tax and other issues that are govt mandated.

When we bought the wife's outback, I very intentionally sought out one with a flat-6 instead of getting a 4 or turbo 4.

Have yall ever driven a flat 4 cayman s/gts? Will leave an earlier 987 or 981 for dead, pulls like a frieght train to its 7500 rpm readline. Proven to be a tough engine to date and gains 80hp with a tune.

I get liking older simpler cars and i get the flat 6 sound apeal, but flat 4t cars arnt chopped liver.

I have never driven one, but ridden in the 4 banger. It is a great car and it pulls pretty hard. Old habits die hard, I too like the air cool cars but technology marches on, some are bad, but some are actually pretty dang good. Still, I don't care what the old timers or purest say, I like me a new turbo someday. Once you drive those newer cars, the old aircool cars are just another Vdub. Flame shield on

I am not afraid of the pdk going south. There are many, many out there that are still going strong. Its a great transmission beside the fact that is blue toothed to my brain. It already happened before I think about the gears.

Sort of apples to oranges, but I had a PDK in my Macan S and I did not like it. The paddle upshifts were fast, but I really couldn't detect the paddle downshifts. For me, I have a Stelvio with an 8 spd auto and upshifts and downshifts are as good or better than the Porsche PDK.

just talked to Atlspeedwerks (Atlanta)
Great people, great conversation.
Very informative.
They too now repair these.
Same price as on the West Coast, with figure of about 10K
Cheaper than 30 to 35K from Porsche, But still a huge chunk of change in my book.
L&N is now making or selling the locator switch assembly, (2500) but then again they will not sell it over the counter to anyone.
Reputable in business shops only.
My search has for sure been narrowed dwn even more.
No PDK for me!

Same. I love it.

Drive one before you wave that index finger sideways. I did too, was a die hard stick shift guy and had them for the past 30 years of my driving anything that has wheels on. One drive changed me. Now I am a huge fan.

You own it to yourself to just drive one and get a feel for them. Its nothing like any auto transmission you have driven before. Yep, they are that good

Nothing to do with the drive or drivability at all!
It is about Russian roulette and a huge repair bill that scares me .

If you change the oil in these things out of sequence they need to be recalibrated or something so I have read.
The shift locator sensor -Porsche will not even sell you most of the parts.
It is about 2500 from L&N .
The 2500 does not include transmission removal disassembly and installation.
Others are stepping up to sell stuff, but again will not sell to the hobbiest.
Dont kill me, I have spent quite a few hours researching this .
Just the messenger here.

Are you specifically looking for a Cayman ? I am going to be placing my Boxster S up for sale in the next few weeks . She is far from stock :D

just buy a whole new used transmission when it fails, its cheaper/easier. :rolleyes:

like if you dont want a 5-10k bill when something major fails ... then you arnt into porsches. you are into 90s honda civics and miatas. 500 dollar engines and transmissions all day baby!

I tracked for 20 years and wouldn't buy a car from me