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aschen 03-07-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 12208047)

Use the phone's cellular connection to transmit the accumulated power to a central accumulator station

Im pretty sure you are joking on this, but if you invent this part of the tech, you will be the first person to be a self made trillionaire in under a year.

Arizona_928 03-07-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aschen (Post 12208432)
Im pretty sure you are joking on this, but if you invent this part of the tech, you will be the first person to be a self made trillionaire in under a year.


Tesla suggested this a century ago.

aschen 03-07-2024 10:43 AM

Sure thing, but doesnt make it easy or safe to do at reasonable power levels and distances.

Really it is exactly what the sun is already doing transmitting ultra high power EM radiation over long distances

Pazuzu 03-07-2024 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 12208081)
Er... Don't most folks carry their cel phone in pocket or purse?

Sure, we're going to have to include a nationwide campaign to teach people how to stretch backwards and hold the phones kinda overhead so the cases are pointed at the Sun, but that's just simple propaganda, pretty simple.


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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12208220)
I would do baseball cap brims before cell phone cases. Bonus is you could recharge your embedded chip just by walking outside.

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12208421)
there is somewhere around 85 million dogs in the US. Taking out dobermans, rottweilers and pit bulls, lets say 75 million dogs.

That's a lot of tails wagging. Harness that energy and we are energy independent. My dog even as a lab rott mix with no tail, wiggled enough when I came home that would provide enough e- to heat my home for a week I think.

See, THIS is why Shaun is a business owner and I am not. I come up with this great idea and he immediately trumps it with two BETTER ideas! Bastard...

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Originally Posted by aschen (Post 12208448)
Sure thing, but doesnt make it easy or safe to do at reasonable power levels and distances.
Really it is exactly what the sun is already doing transmitting ultra high power EM radiation over long distances

Look, if it turns out that cellular transmission of power isn't the right option, then I have a backup plan. The 3800 mwh produced each day is just about the same power storage as a rechargeable AA battery. So, we send out say 3 batteries with each case. End of day, you take out the charged battery, put in the uncharged one, and then drive to the town center where we'll have a drop box for the filled batteries. One box where you put the full ones, and one box full of empty ones. You'll always have a battery charging, one empty, and a spare just in case. Then we just need a facility with 50,000 AA battery clips that's plugged into the main grid.


I'm actually surprised, none of you noticed the REAL problem here. I'm only looking at 12 hours of continuous charging, but in fact there are 24 hours available in the day, so why am I missing out of 50% potential? Turns out that during the 12 hours of nighttime here in the US, there is 12 hours of perfect daylight on the other side of the globe, in a region where they don't use electricity. So, we supply Nepal, Tibet, and Southwestern China with the same cell phone cases, and they can collect 12 MORE hours of power for us, for free! Now we're powering almost 13 houses in each town of 50,000 people!

red-beard 03-07-2024 03:14 PM

Panels don't produce that way. To produce max power it has to be when the sun is very high in the sky and the panel is perfectly oriented. This is why some of the places use tracking systems.

A 1 meter x 2 meter panel produces about 450 Watts, or about 225 Watts per sq meter, when it is perfectly pointed at the sun and when the sun is around noon. And no clouds.

So you will need people to wear a hat with a tracking system and keep the cell phone up there and they need to stay outside in the sun all day long, every day.

50x70mm = 0.0035 sq meters = 0.7875 Watts

Plug that into PV Watts and see what it will produce in your Zipcode for a year.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-26-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12208220)
I would do baseball cap brims before cell phone cases. Bonus is you could recharge your embedded chip just by walking outside.

or this. only posting because I love SG

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masraum 06-26-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 12208181)
You mean that half mile of parking lot with no shade anywhere which is 120deg?
Naw. Terrible idea.

The main problem with parking lots becoming covered with solar panels is that those usually require access to various tall trucks, delivery, etc.... Or worse yet, someone towing a camper or driving a jacked up truck on huge tires that doesn't know how tall their crap is.

THe cost to fix things when someone takes one out would suck. But otherwise, it's a great idea. I'd love a shaded parking spot, and having more solar power would be nice.

What sort of environmental impact does the creation of solar panels cause? I know that EVs are a bit notorious due to the various metals required for batteries, motors, electronics. How are solar cells for that sort of thing?

masraum 06-26-2024 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 12208081)
Er... Don't most folks carry their cel phone in pocket or purse?

Yep. If it's out being used, the screen is facing up and the back is covered by a hand or whatever surface the device is laying on.


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