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2.7RS 03-25-2024 08:51 AM

My girlfriend was locked out of her brand spanking new Volvo for 2 hours while the car was updating software in a grocery store parking lot.

You could see the circle spinning in the Volvo app on her phone that she had to download in her phone.

I want 3rd world tatas or shiatbox toyotas that are sold in africa

WTF???

pwd72s 03-25-2024 08:53 AM

Hint: Go to Parf. Read my post titled "Mark Levin"...listen to his opening segment of maybe 10 minutes. The "why" may become more clear to you.

wdfifteen 03-25-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12219776)
Hard to comment on this without getting political...

17 posts ahead of yours managed to do it. It's not that hard.

masraum 03-25-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 2.7RS (Post 12219799)
My girlfriend was locked out of her brand spanking new Volvo for 2 hours while the car was updating software in a grocery store parking lot.

You could see the circle spinning in the Volvo app on her phone that she had to download in her phone.

That's seriously crazy! It's only a matter of time before someone thinks to sue Volvo for "I was trying to go to the Dr for a medical emergency/my wife was going into labor/etc.. but couldn't drive."

Zeke 03-25-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12219839)
17 posts ahead of yours managed to do it. It's not that hard.

:D**lol

2.7RS 03-25-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12219859)
That's seriously crazy! It's only a matter of time before someone thinks to sue Volvo for "I was trying to go to the Dr for a medical emergency/my wife was going into labor/etc.. but couldn't drive."

I think it was something like 5 warnings to do it and she kept pressing skip not now.

Until the darn thing just did it.

Apparently you are supposed to click at night when you garage it. It makes sense but at the same time is like WTF to me....

masraum 03-25-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 2.7RS (Post 12219870)
I think it was something like 5 warnings to do it and she kept pressing skip not now.

Until the darn thing just did it.

Apparently you are supposed to click at night when you garage it. It makes sense but at the same time is like WTF to me....

I get it. It probably asks "do you want to update" every time you get in the car. Well, you get in the car when you're getting ready to drive the car, so that's not a good time. By the time you're getting out of the car, you've probably forgotten about the cars desire to perform an upgrade.

1990C4S 03-25-2024 11:34 AM

There are lots of cars available. Do some research before you buy.

Want a secure car? Don't get pushbutton start. Want to know what repairs require dealer software? Do some research...

If there are no financial repercussions to the manufacturers, the trend will continue.

Also, when you take 'technical information' from an article that confuses breaks with brakes, that's on you.

Quote:

'It is not because of me, OK? I kind of drive good.”
:rolleyes:

rfuerst911sc 03-25-2024 11:47 AM

It will only stop if large numbers of consumers stop buying . When $$$ stops everyone pays attention .

Dixie 03-25-2024 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12219839)
17 posts ahead of yours managed to do it. It's not that hard.


Do y'all believe car companies will provide free parts and open software if we just elect the right guy?

Some of y'all have an uncanny ability to turn any topic into a political piss-and-moan session. Heck, y'all even did it with WWII bombers! But go ahead and whinge. Holler at the clouds too while you're at it. Just count me out when you do.

VINMAN 03-25-2024 01:33 PM

Just another reason why I'll continue to drive my 20yo vehicles until they physically wont run anymore or just rust apart...

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TimT 03-25-2024 02:43 PM

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Just another reason why I'll continue to drive my 20yo vehicles until they physically wont run anymore or just rust apart...
LOL I have a 07 Cayman and an 08 WRX that both require computer interface to do certain things.. I invested some money into scanners so I could reset service minders, some sort of no where near where things are technologically now...

Cars are so complex that it can limit how much and what the independent mechanics can do.. My friend Bill has worked for Porsche and BMW, has owned his own shop for almost 40 years...

He spends thousands of dollars a year to have the latest scanners/software to be able to do more than simple things on modern cars... He knows that telling a customer they need to go the the dealer to complete a repair is a no-go....bad business

I've invested in some scan tools... I have an Icarsoft, Autel, a Durametric (somewhere)..and the Torque app on my phone with a OBD ll Bluetooth dongle

And have access to a PIWIS

I also have a timing light and a dwell meter, a vacuum gauge.. stethoscope.. old skool stuff

The scanner I got for my Cayman is pretty thorough

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711405829.jpg

Oil reset, electric parking brake, battery management, electronic throttle, steering angle, abs bleeding, injector set up

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711406247.jpg

I should have ponied up a few more bucks to get a universal scanner, but still this one does have the ability to work with 15 current generations of Porsche

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711406471.jpg

And yes I actually did use it today.. I just started noticing a intermittent miss on my Cayman..

Tobra 03-25-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12219839)
17 posts ahead of yours managed to do it. It's not that hard.

It is when about 99% is driven be regulation

masraum 03-25-2024 03:16 PM

Looks like the current icarsoft for Porsche is only $260. That's not too bad. Although I'm not sure that I'd use it for much more than oil change reset. Still, it's not completely unreasonable.

jcommin 03-25-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Carrera (Post 12219939)
Do y'all believe car companies will provide free parts and open software if we just elect the right guy?

Some of y'all have an uncanny ability to turn any topic into a political piss-and-moan session. Heck, y'all even did it with WWII bombers! But go ahead and whinge. Holler at the clouds too while you're at it. Just count me out when you do.

You know, I was puzzled when this OP moved. I didn't open it when it was in off topic and I sure won't now that it is in PARF.

Rusty Heap 03-25-2024 07:19 PM

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id10t 03-26-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 12220178)



Works for the 356 too if you have a copy of Elfrink's for the actual numbers/values

fastfredracing 03-26-2024 07:27 AM

I had to sign up for Obamacare to get my airbag light to go out .
See ya on the island !

RANDY P 03-26-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 2.7RS (Post 12219799)
My girlfriend was locked out of her brand spanking new Volvo for 2 hours while the car was updating software in a grocery store parking lot.

You could see the circle spinning in the Volvo app on her phone that she had to download in her phone.

I want 3rd world tatas or shiatbox toyotas that are sold in africa

WTF???

I'd be so ****ing pissed.

Honestly, this 'tech' BS has gone too far. Screw hi-tech culture.

rjp

911 Rod 03-26-2024 08:36 AM

It's all about making money.


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