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A930Rocket 06-13-2024 04:49 PM

As difficult as that was, it has to be easier than the starter under the intake manifold.

I don’t know about you guys, but I would’ve been using simple green and brake cleaner to clean everything in sight before, during and after working on it.

Plus, changing the lower ball joint, since the boot was torn.

masraum 06-13-2024 04:55 PM

I want that battery tester! It's less than $60 from Amzn.

pwd72s 06-13-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12265983)
I want that battery tester! It's less than $60 from Amzn.

Yep, in many ways, better than the old load testers...this type measures continuity between the posts...the lower the number the better the battery condition.

(edit) Not many hour long videos hook me into watching to the end...but this one did.

rfuerst911sc 06-14-2024 01:47 AM

Does anyone know or have a good theory on why starters on some vehicles are under the intake system ? Is packaging so tight that the easy access of yesteryear not possible ? Is this a case of fixing something that isn't broke ?

porsche tech 06-14-2024 02:40 AM

Cayenne starters are fun…

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1718361608.jpg

wdfifteen 06-14-2024 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12265731)
+1 Only 80 of them left the factory. The engine almost touches the ground. Plugs would be ok to change though. :-)


Arlen Vanke from Akron won the 1968 NHRA Super Stock National beating among others Don Garlits. He may have had one of the Darts.

Here is the restored winning car doing a little test run in SC. Car can't shift into second but still sounds incredible. Watch first ten seconds and then skip to 50 seconds in. Worth it.

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If the car in the video is Vanke's car he didn't win in a Dart. The car in the video is a Barfaruda.

Bob Kontak 06-14-2024 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12266104)
If the car in the video is Vanke's car he didn't win in a Dart. The car in the video is a Barfaruda.

He won in the Barfaruda. I thought he had owned a Dart but I'm not so sure and it looks sort of like I was saying he won in a Dart. Should have worded it better.

Please, never forget that Barfarudas need love, too.

Bob Kontak 06-14-2024 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche tech (Post 12266097)

There's another level of hell.

wdfifteen 06-14-2024 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12266120)

Please, never forget that Barfarudas need love, too.

Oh, I agree! I had a ‘67 for about 3 years. My dad had a ‘68 fastback with a 318 and it was a great car. He found a great deal on a ‘67 at a time when I needed a car so I bought it.
Unfortunately, it had a 273 and the 6 cyl version of the 721 transmission. So no power AND transmission troubles, PLUS it was a notchback. To prove its bona fides as a sporty car it has a small vacuum gauge in place of a tachometer. I sold it as soon as I got mt 356 back together.

911 Rod 06-14-2024 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12266092)
Does anyone know or have a good theory on why starters on some vehicles are under the intake system ? Is packaging so tight that the easy access of yesteryear not possible ? Is this a case of fixing something that isn't broke ?

Maybe there is more room to contact the flywheel at the top because the engine is low down and there isn't room at the bottom?

911 Rod 06-14-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs (Post 12265597)
I love his attitude. Really well done video. I bought my Tundra after inspecting the engine compartment for parts access. After dealing with Ford design I chose my Toyota.

New gen Tundra? I looked at one and you need a step stool to put oil in it.

aschen 06-14-2024 06:11 AM

Watched it last night. I am no apologist for lack of reparability in modern cars, it sucks. However this didnt seem THAT bad to me. About the same as most modern transverse car with the exception of having to remove the axel. Its not ideal for sure but seems like a 2hr job at a shop or a 4 hr driveway job. This is the sort of thing that will drive you nuts if you buy a new alternator and arnt aware the shaft has to come out, fight with it for an hour thinking "surely I don't have to unbolt the knuckle. Pre interneting really helps but its a time sink.

It also lasted 165k miles. Its more forgivable to me than porsche requiring a programmer to change the battery for example.

Bugsinrugs 06-14-2024 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12266159)
New gen Tundra? I looked at one and you need a step stool to put oil in it.

I’m tall so no problem.
Without a lift and doing that job on your back would be ridiculous.

red 928 06-14-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12265731)

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I he was my neighbor I'd be out in the south 40
digging him a nice hole.

pwd72s 06-14-2024 11:44 AM

I'd be out front, enjoying the sound...almost cried when a neighbor sold his big block Corvette...I loved hearing it drive by.

herr_oberst 06-14-2024 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12266159)
New gen Tundra? I looked at one and you need a step stool to put oil in it.

Topside Creeper to the rescue



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1718405187.jpg

A930Rocket 06-15-2024 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs (Post 12266285)
I’m tall so no problem.
Without a lift and doing that job on your back would be ridiculous.

A lift would really make the difference on a job like this. That, and watching a video on YouTube University makes a big difference.

Unless I know how to do it already, I research online/YouTube, but since I don’t have a lift, I’m sitting down or on my back underneath. At 65 and 6’4”, it’s getting harder and harder to work underneath a car. Especially, when you have to get up and down eleventy hundred times to get tools and parts.

The good news is, when I’ve done one side, I know what tools only to take to the other side.

bugstrider 06-17-2024 10:26 AM

Alternator swap. Easy, right?
 
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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12265551)
Embed of the video above.


I've seen some that were just going to be a beyotch. I haven't watched your video, but I think the winner is the (I think Ford) product that has the starter in the V under the intake manifold.

https://bloozeown.weebly.com/uploads...98026_orig.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...575c0a3d4.jpeg


And here I thought the engineers that designed the Toyota Tundra V-8 engine were the only ones that did this. I honestly think they subscribe to the chaos theory…. Just sayin


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cockerpunk 06-17-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 12265951)
Back in the day people warned not to buy a 300zx or 3000gt for access reasons. Now they are not so bad.

no, they are still ****ing awful.

Rot 911 06-17-2024 01:06 PM

I ended up watching the whole video! That guy is pretty entertaining, and he made a dull, labor-intensive job interesting to watch.


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