298K. Good job!

A vaper would've destroyed it by 90K.

rjp

I took out Outback in to the dealer for a free service last month. Leftover WRXs had asking prices of about $30-32K, depending on trim level, meaning about $5K off list.

Whoa that’s a big break. I’m seeing about $2500 to maybe $3k off. $5k would be a significant push for me to jump in.

Do it! It's flat, it's got a stick..

(selling you like I sold myself ;) )

rjp

I just emailed the dealer that gave me the best pre-tax pricing asking for more. They came down to 33.5k for premium without sunroof which is the model i'd want. Err...i mean is the model i think would be the best suited economy car for our household.

Further digging into the Civic Si reveals pretty common squeaking/rattling issues complained about and no special interest rates popping up. The interest rate difference (maybe 5-7% it appears) is pretty substantial even on say $25k. At the 2.9 Subie is offering i don't mind financing part of the car at all.

My non STI 2013 hatch. They should bring back the hatchback. IMO it looks better and is much more practical. I bought this car 5 years ago to flip. The guy spun a crank bearing and he didn't want to deal with it so I got it for very cheap. My plan was to buy a JDM engine to throw in and make a few bucks. Found out the 2.5 is a US spec engine, JDM non existent. Crap, found a couple of used engines but you don't know for sure what you're getting so I bought a new block from Subaru. New turbo, New rubber bits, heads resurfaced, etc. Now I'm into the car for 11K. Can still make money but started to like the car. 150K on the odo and the suspension felt tired though. One thing led to another. Like new now but better with stiffer lower springs, Feal adjustable struts and shocks and leveled out control arms, sticky Yokohama tires, I kept it for myself. It handles better than my buddy's STI now and the HP difference is like 268 vs 274? not noticeable. It can out corner my 911 (AWD and more HP) but nothing drives like a 911 and the WRX is a cheap Jap car compared. I like the dash layout but the whole interior feels like a cheap Japanese car because that's what it is. Sure is fun thoughhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1720452548.jpg

Honda rarely gives deals on their performance stuff. Also, for that $$ the WRX would kill the Civic, and have a nicer interior.

rjp

How about a GR Corolla?

I realize it's across the country from you, but my local Subie dealer is in Sherman Oaks, CA. They had about 5 WRXs on the lot last month.

I got my WRX last month. It was roughly $4500 off on a premium with the sunroof/stereo package. I wouldn't have opted for the sunroof but that might be why they were willing to make a deal on it. They had a 1.9% finance special at the time. It looks like they have a 0% finance on WRXs posted on their website today. I'm not sure of the fine print though.

https://www.subarucolonial.com/new-subaru/wrx-feasterville-pa.htm

Well dang I emailed the dealer that gave me the best initial price and they came down to 31.8k plus sales tax and registration. That's on a 24 Premium without sunroof. combined with the 2.9 for 48mo that seems like a heck of a deal.

question for those with newer models- does the valet mode effectively restrict speed for a manual transmission car? would be a nice bonus if I could not worry about my 20yr old getting too boost happy if he borrows the car. also would be nice to stay out of boost when my daughter starts driving in a couple years.

I don't know much about the valet mode other than hiding infotainment type stuff.
The Subaru app can be set to send alerts at certain speeds and distance.

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Did give a brief look to the GR Corolla edge. A bit too rough around the edges and I have to admit at 51 i appreciate at least a half hearted effort on the interior quality. Toyota definitely doesn't do that with the Corolla. Not that the Subie is great but it is i think notably better.

Two things kinda holding me back here are the boy racer vibe and Subies less than Toyota/Honda reliability & longevity. Maybe the boy racer vibe could be toned down with a dark grey color.

Wife has given the 'ok' and said to be sure whatever i get is safe for the kids to drive. awd and subies 'eyesight' stuff should be wins in that category i think.

I agree on the Toyota interior. No Subaru dealer within about a 100 miles so I didn't even have it on my radar. They do seem to check a lot of boxes.

Did you find out what valet mode actually does?

Had a '19 Civic for a short period of time. Well built great little car. Thought I could adapt but couldn't. I hate front wheel drive

+1. Get frisky and torque steer is just a buzzkill. Car itself makes nice noises, built well and shifts well.

rjp

Right, if I was young and poor and my choices were limited to "what can I get for $500/$1000/$2000" then I'd take the best car that I could find regardless. I've done it many times. But since I'm not in that situation, I have a lot more choices and can ensure that I enjoy the drive.

Yep. If I was looking at cars in the civic realm, I'd be far more likely to look at miata, not as practical, but that's a compromise that I'd make. Hell, if "practical" was a "requirement" I'd probably be more likely to look at something like a mustang.

I ended up getting a GR Circuit .... I see the difference though. Highlighted in this:

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I dunno, lost you at "safe for kids" and WRX. My son had one in his late 20's, (last gen) and I thought the thing was scary fast. Too tempting for a younger driver, and the car is capable enough that you could be really flying when things go wrong.

I had a black 2004, the year the headlights went bad like on a 996. It was a fun-enough car, although tinny with minimal torque to launch from a dead stop. Test drove a STi a couple of years later and that was a revelation.

On a faster note-

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a61536285/subaru-project-midnight-wrx-2024-goodwood-race-car/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_rdt&utm_medium=email&date =070924&utm_campaign=nl36000414&GID=1f8cc5d2e32c2e 61b0879b1ebb527eb9d28b800c9adb69631a0f542db63939b5 &utm_term=TEST-%20NEW%20TEST%20-%20Sending%20List%20-%20AM%20180D%20Clicks%2C%20NON%20AM%2090D%20Opens% 2C%20Both%20Subbed%20Last%2030D

Our Subaru BRZ has been a blast. Manual, rear wheel drive. Not overly endowed with horsepower, but enough to be nimble and quick.

I have an older VW GTI that I like, but the front wheel drive platform has always been a drawback.

It amazes me that the hot hatch formula is vanishing and good options are so thin. Even the new Honda Prelude appears to be a two-door coupe but FWD, no hatch, hybrid engine, and likely no stick. Would be interesting if a more zippy version comes out under the Acura brand.

Test drove a new wrx
 

Drove the wrx again tonight. What a total hooligan-mobile. There is now a wrinkle though-
1- quoted price of 31k was for a base and I want the premium. So now talking 33k for premium ( manager supposed to work on this for me due to miscommunication).
2- I drove a gti. 380s package. Lovely 6 speed, doesn’t require premium fuel, 7mpg better on highway, way more tech stuff for same $$. Nicer stereo, nicer brakes, cool as hell retro plaid fabric seats, more safety goodies than subie and 3 throttle maps (drive modes) including an eco that totally tames the car.

This being a 3rd car intended to save gas with a smile my brain is saying gti makes more sense. It is a little tougher to get out of and slightly smaller inside. But the driving position is very nice once you’re in. But my goodness the Subie feels like it could walk on water. Totally underrated chassis setup. Like holy cow underrated. I’ve never felt this sort of confidence in a car. No doubt the awd helps. Even my 14yo daughter noticed the feel. Motor is torquey but def needs an out 4K to wake up. And it sounds legitimately good! Gearing is a bit goofy. It doesn’t need more hp just needs it either earlier or needs to carry it to 7k instead of the 6k limit it currently has.

I gotta do some math on this gas thing.

Nice car. I always liked those hatchbacks. They were/are very polarizing to the Subaru cognoscenti.

Thanks, here's a 2024 WRX from Subaru they call the midnight project or something like that. 670HP 680 FPT. I don't think this one street legalhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1720662888.jpg
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I’d have to drive a used RS3 before buying any small awd fun car.

Outside of the WRX the price REALLY goes up for awd! BMW might be the cheapest of the bunch with the 230i xdrive. Not sure if the German awd systems feel like subies but did see a pretty nice looking review on the '24 Golf R.

Is the Corolla GR getting any votes here?

I have a ‘12 STI hatch which I love and hate, lol. Intoxicating performance, but THIRSTY and with just at 100k the interior rattles and squeaks like an Old b!tch. The doors are so lightweight I have to get on the wife to close doors EASILY! She doesn’t appreciate the ride at all so, it’s my baby.

I do want to experience a Golf R or R32 and I YEARN for a RS2 Avant.

The WRX drive really did get me appreciating awd but my goodness is it expensive in other cars. Strongly leaning GTI now but doesn't look like dealers are giving much at all off sticker. I figure I could ax the car to learn how to manage a fwd platform. not ideal but by my math the GTI would be approx $90/mo cheaper in gas than the WRX. That's pretty substantial for something that is supposed to be a 'third car commuter'.

Commuter gas mileage...
Rug rats driver safety...
Bat out of hell...
Happy wife...

Decisions, decisions...

The WRX gets pretty great mileage, at least mine did.

Combined city and highway were 8-9 L/100 kms. It does need premium tho.

I think my '13 gets 28mpg which seems great to me because that's twice the milage of my Tundra. I probably don't get anywhere near 28 because I'm always in the boost. I just can't help it

My 22 6 spd averaged about 19/20

I dunno how anybody stays out of boost on those things. Every damn turn is a friggin gigglefest.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-audi-rs2-avant-13/

Oh yeah, in my watch list! Been tracking them for a couple of years now. It WILL happen. Just don’t quite know when yet.